I don't believe I said it was a requirement, Joan. [email protected] wrote: >Lynne- > >There was never a requirement that an admin review old posts on a board that >were posted prior to the admin adopting it--unless someone reported the >problem with a post to the admin. It's a nice thing to do if your time permits >it and if the board isn't TOO large to make such a review >counterproductive--but it was NEVER a requirement. > >Joan >--------- >Lynne wrote: > >When I began adminning boards the assumption was that admins would look >at the entire board. > >

Tree-Digger wrote: >Geez, and I thought only hitting my boards were getting "bombed", is it the >same person? I've been getting a copy of my "canned" letter that I send to >those who don't use the surnames subject line the right way - in the abuse >report. In addition they are using a variation of my home email address. I >figure that they will eventually get tired of it and stop - let's hope. > > I'd report that to staff. >I do have a couple of questions - I totally understand where Joan is coming >from, when you have 50 abuse reports at a time, it gets a little much >opening each thread, but when I find someone who has "the feel" of a newbie, >I always check view posts, and if I find other posts with the same problem, >then I go through and hit report abuse, I never check the board that they >are on. Should I do this or not? > I can't see a reason to check the board. If the posts need to be fixed, it doesn't matter on what board they reside. >Also in regards to cross posting - I've >heard two different "rules". Do we report every single post, or just one to >staff? I've done it both ways, it gets a little trying when someone has >cross posted 20 times or more as in lots of cases, to report all of them. I >know that when some admins get the abuse report they just delete the post >themselves instead of waiting for staff - so when its not one of my boards, >and I've only reported it once, and it's deleted - the purpose has been >defeated. So what is the correct way of handling it? > > If someone cross-posts to more than 5 boards, I report it to staff. For less, I just use report abuse. This is just my own personal rule of thumb. Lynne

[email protected] wrote: >Nan- > >Yes--I do this also and I do believe in the value of reviewing an entire old >thread when a new post is added for the very reason that, obviously, if >someone is posting a reply, the thread is still viable and of interest. > >This is the reason I prefer viewing the boards as admin in FLAT view -- it >works best for us IMperfect human admins. <g> > Different techniques work for different admins. Flat view may work best for you, but not always for me and other admins. If it's a thread that I've already reviewed, there's no value to me to view the thread in flat view -- that just clutters my screen and makes it harder to navigate in the case of a long thread. Like Dan, I'd rather review it in thread view, find the new post, then open that in a new window. I imagine there are also some admins that only review the threads that turn up in their Alerts (formerly Notifications) messages and just use the links contained therein. Lynne

Lynne- There was never a requirement that an admin review old posts on a board that were posted prior to the admin adopting it--unless someone reported the problem with a post to the admin. It's a nice thing to do if your time permits it and if the board isn't TOO large to make such a review counterproductive--but it was NEVER a requirement. Joan --------- Lynne wrote: When I began adminning boards the assumption was that admins would look at the entire board. **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

Nan L Starjak wrote: >Lynne, I truly am not being sarcastic when I say I'm happy for you that you can do that. I would if I could. But I have adopted some rather large boards that don't related to my research, simply because I felt they were too large to be un-adminned. > >So, I keep up with the current posts; and my preference, which I cannot *always* accomplish, is to clean the whole thread when a new post brings an old thread to the top. Sometimes I do an advanced search for things like "county" or "and" or "etc." in the surname boxes. > >But -- check every single message on, for example, the Wilson surname board? or Steuben Co., NY? > >Only if I win the lottery and can quit my job. > If that works for you, Nan, that's great. (Not being sarcastic either.) We each do what we can and are willing to do. When I began adminning boards the assumption was that admins would look at the entire board. Now that the guidelines have changed doesn't change my feeling of responsibility to review all the posts, so I'll keep chugging along reviewing new posts every day and working on older posts as time allows. Lynne

My Accounts cleared up later that night. Got in with no problems. Thanks. Paul

I assumed it was a requirement - it may have simply been the culture of this list and the amazing board managers who take over boards with hundreds of messages, clean them all, and talk about it on this list LOL. I'm very happy to let go of my guilt. I haven't touched an old message since we switched to Mailman. Diane Diane Hettrick [email protected] On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Lynne wrote: >> --------- >> Lynne wrote: >> >> When I began adminning boards the assumption was that admins would >> look >> at the entire board. >>

Maybe 'cause the snow has turned to rain here in N.E. OH it cleared up the glitch <grin> At 8:45 p.m. I had no problem getting into "my accounts: Kay

Update---both WorldConnect and MyAccount are now back in action. It looks like the inability to connect with WC was the problem for MyAccount. Joan ----------- Not really sure why it doesn't completely load but the thinking is that it hits a snag trying to connect to the WorldConnect server since that server is currently down (hopefully coming back up soon--still checking file systems). Joan ----------- I am having the same experience. I only hope it is a temporary glitch. Jim **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

Not really sure why it doesn't completely load but the thinking is that it hits a snag trying to connect to the WorldConnect server since that server is currently down (hopefully coming back up soon--still checking file systems). Joan ----------- I am having the same experience. I only hope it is a temporary glitch. Jim **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

I am having the same experience. I only hope it is a temporary glitch. Jim ------ (Snipped) It's 6:08 pm (or thereabouts) here in snowy COLD Northeastern Ohio and I can't get into MyAccounts...the page only loads to the Services box and then stalls...? (Snipped)

It's 6:08 pm (or thereabouts) here in snowy COLD Northeastern Ohio and I can't get into MyAccounts...the page only loads to the Services box and then stalls...? It is just my broswer or is anyone else having problems? Thanks, Paul Apparently this isn't my day...apologies for sending the whole digest...

It's 6:08 pm (or thereabouts) here in snowy COLD Northeastern Ohio and I can't get into MyAccounts...the page only loads to the Services box and then stalls...? It is just my broswer or is anyone else having problems? Thanks, Paul [email protected] wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Board Subject Boxes (Paul A. Roth) 2. Re: Board Subject Boxes (Paul A. Roth) 3. Moving Board Posts (Paul A. Roth) 4. Re: Re Filing Objections not quite fixed (Jim Jackson) 5. Re: Moving Board Posts ([email protected]) 6. Re: Re Filing Objections not quite fixed (Nan Lambert Starjak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:53:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul A. Roth" Subject: Re: [BAd] Board Subject Boxes To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Joan Paul ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:14:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul A. Roth" Subject: Re: [BAd] Board Subject Boxes To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Judy Wrote: >As to subject lines, it won't mess up connections. Hi Judy, Thanks. That's what I wanted to know. I didn't have trouble figuring out which repsonse went with which post...I was just using that as an example. I only change subject boxes with "Roth" - "Roth Family" - "Searching for father/mother/sister/brother"...or "HELP"!!!". Something like "Roths in Pennsylvania" I leave unchanged. That, at least, gives a location. Regards, Paul ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul A. Roth" Subject: [BAd] Moving Board Posts To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK....I "spoke too soon". I knew I shouldn't have said "As a Board Admin. of 8 years, I have received 0 Objections" (I may be paraphrasing)...just got my FIRST one a few minutes ago! {:-( I have to move a ROTH Query post to the ROTH Adoption Board... Would some kind soul please tell me where do I find the instructions for moving board posts? I saw the "move path" box...but what do I type in there? Thanks, Paul ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:50:17 -0500 From: "Jim Jackson" Subject: Re: [BAd] Re Filing Objections not quite fixed To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would like to know if you all are actually seeing objections lately. I posted an objection on one of my boards just to test the system and have yet to see it hit. Jim ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:25:31 EST From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BAd] Moving Board Posts To: [email protected] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Paul- I'm a bit confused here...someone filed an objection on your ROTH board asking you to move a post to the "Roth ADOPTION board?" There wouldn't be any such thing as a Roth surname adoption board--only one board per surname covering all aspects of that surname. If the post is otherwise appropriate for your board you can leave it there--with one caveat. There are some special rules in the RootsWeb AUP that apply to adoption messages--so you would want to make sure that your message falls within the adoption guideline. You DO have the option of moving adoption posts to the appropriate adoption board though if you prefer. The adoption boards are broken down by US State and by other criteria if a specific geographic area is not mentioned. Click the MOVE MESSAGE link and then navigate through the TOPIC boards to find the appropriate ADOPTION board and once the path to the board appears in the move message box -- click the button to send it on its way. However, before you move the message you should REJECT the objection--because otherwise it will move along with the message to the new location where you cannot delete it. Joan ------- OK....I "spoke too soon". I knew I shouldn't have said "As a Board Admin. of 8 years, I have received 0 Objections" (I may be paraphrasing)...just got my FIRST one a few minutes ago! {:-( I have to move a ROTH Query post to the ROTH Adoption Board... Would some kind soul please tell me where do I find the instructions for moving board posts? I saw the "move path" box...but what do I type in there? Thanks, Paul **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:24:38 -0600 From: "Nan Lambert Starjak" Subject: Re: [BAd] Re Filing Objections not quite fixed To: Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'm seeing them. Nan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jackson" To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Re Filing Objections not quite fixed >I would like to know if you all are actually seeing objections lately. I > posted an objection on one of my boards just to test the system and have > yet > to see it hit. > > Jim > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the BOARDS-ADMINS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BOARDS-ADMINS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BOARDS-ADMINS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 39 ********************************************

Hi Joan, Here's the objection: >1. Name: XBoardAdminX Objection Date: 2/9/2008 10:25:59 PM >Email: [email protected] >Locatin: surnames.roth >Comment: Please move this post to an adoption board. Thank you. >Status: Locked by paroth There are 8 responses, but only the last two in the thread are direct responses to Kimberley's query. Is there somewhere...some archived explanation that breaks down moving posts and what to do with the thread for that post? I copied your explanation, but that doesn't take into account any linked response thread >There are some special rules in the RootsWeb AUP that apply >to adoption messages--so you would want to make sure that your >message falls within the adoption guideline. Where do I find that? Thanks, Paul

On 2/12/08, Tree-Digger <[email protected]> wrote: > Geez, and I thought only hitting my boards were getting "bombed", is it > the > same person? I've been getting a copy of my "canned" letter that I send > to > those who don't use the surnames subject line the right way - in the abuse > report. In addition they are using a variation of my home email > address. I > figure that they will eventually get tired of it and stop - let's hope. This is a good reason NOT to do letters. It sounds like one of the people you sent that to got ticked and so, they put your copied email into the Abuse report. What do you mean--a variation of your home address? Their report should show their identity---if you mean they are using a variation of your email as theirs, I might consider telling Staff. Perhaps (?) Staff could review that person's status? Their behavior might qualify as impersonation (?). Do we report every single post, or just one to staff? I've done it both > ways, it gets a little trying when someone has cross posted 20 times or more > as in lots of cases, to report all of them. I > know that when some admins get the abuse report they just delete the post > themselves instead of waiting for staff - so when its not one of my boards, > and I've only reported it once, and it's deleted - the purpose has been > defeated. So what is the correct way of handling it? When you use Report Abuse on "one", put "Att Staff: numerous duplicate posts on different boards." That tells Staff to take care of that objection, and alerts them that many boards are involved. Judy

Excuse the typing, my son is demanding my attention. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Tree-Digger Date: 2/12/2008 7:24:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAd] "susie do gooder" and abuse reports Geez, and I thought only hitting my boards were getting "bombed", is it the same person? I've been getting a copy of my "canned" letter that I send to those who don't use the surnames subject line the right way - in the abuse report. In addition they are using a variation of my home email address. I figure that they will eventually get tired of it and stop - let's hope. I do have a couple of questions - I totally understand where Joan is coming from, when you have 50 abuse reports at a time, it gets a little much opening each thread, but when I find someone who has "the feel" of a newbie, I always check view posts, and if I find other posts with the same problem, then I go through and hit report abuse, I never check the board that they are on. Should I do this or not? Also in regards to cross posting - I've heard two different "rules". Do we report every single post, or just one to staff? I've done it both ways, it gets a little trying when someone has cross posted 20 times or more as in lots of cases, to report all of them. I know that when some admins get the abuse report they just delete the post themselves instead of waiting for staff - so when its not one of my boards, and I've only reported it once, and it's deleted - the purpose has been defeated. So what is the correct way of handling it? Thanks, Rene' ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Geez, and I thought only hitting my boards were getting "bombed", is it the same person? I've been getting a copy of my "canned" letter that I send to those who don't use the surnames subject line the right way - in the abuse report. In addition they are using a variation of my home email address. I figure that they will eventually get tired of it and stop - let's hope. I do have a couple of questions - I totally understand where Joan is coming from, when you have 50 abuse reports at a time, it gets a little much opening each thread, but when I find someone who has "the feel" of a newbie, I always check view posts, and if I find other posts with the same problem, then I go through and hit report abuse, I never check the board that they are on. Should I do this or not? Also in regards to cross posting - I've heard two different "rules". Do we report every single post, or just one to staff? I've done it both ways, it gets a little trying when someone has cross posted 20 times or more as in lots of cases, to report all of them. I know that when some admins get the abuse report they just delete the post themselves instead of waiting for staff - so when its not one of my boards, and I've only reported it once, and it's deleted - the purpose has been defeated. So what is the correct way of handling it? Thanks, Rene'

Paul- I'm a bit confused here...someone filed an objection on your ROTH board asking you to move a post to the "Roth ADOPTION board?" There wouldn't be any such thing as a Roth surname adoption board--only one board per surname covering all aspects of that surname. If the post is otherwise appropriate for your board you can leave it there--with one caveat. There are some special rules in the RootsWeb AUP that apply to adoption messages--so you would want to make sure that your message falls within the adoption guideline. You DO have the option of moving adoption posts to the appropriate adoption board though if you prefer. The adoption boards are broken down by US State and by other criteria if a specific geographic area is not mentioned. Click the MOVE MESSAGE link and then navigate through the TOPIC boards to find the appropriate ADOPTION board and once the path to the board appears in the move message box -- click the button to send it on its way. However, before you move the message you should REJECT the objection--because otherwise it will move along with the message to the new location where you cannot delete it. Joan ------- OK....I "spoke too soon". I knew I shouldn't have said "As a Board Admin. of 8 years, I have received 0 Objections" (I may be paraphrasing)...just got my FIRST one a few minutes ago! {:-( I have to move a ROTH Query post to the ROTH Adoption Board... Would some kind soul please tell me where do I find the instructions for moving board posts? I saw the "move path" box...but what do I type in there? Thanks, Paul **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

I'm seeing them. Nan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [BAd] Re Filing Objections not quite fixed >I would like to know if you all are actually seeing objections lately. I > posted an objection on one of my boards just to test the system and have > yet > to see it hit. > > Jim > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

OK....I "spoke too soon". I knew I shouldn't have said "As a Board Admin. of 8 years, I have received 0 Objections" (I may be paraphrasing)...just got my FIRST one a few minutes ago! {:-( I have to move a ROTH Query post to the ROTH Adoption Board... Would some kind soul please tell me where do I find the instructions for moving board posts? I saw the "move path" box...but what do I type in there? Thanks, Paul