Since the links are currently using the text in the message *body* which cannot be edited--there would be no need for the capability to UPDATE or reindex. So, unless they change over to using the surname field I guess we'll never know the answer to your question. Joan ---------- if this thing works something like a spider couldn't it come back and "revisit" the message from time to time to pick up whatever surnames an admin has added? Beth **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

All I can say is "Woe is us!!" Marie On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:36 PM, [email protected] wrote: Jim- This isn't the type of "enhancement" that the developers would have come up with on their own to improve the board functionality. This is most likely the result of an order to implement the links that came from the top and had to be added. Joan ------- With all the current problems that still need fixing why are they playing around with more "improvements" that don't work? Jim **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel- campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOARDS-ADMINS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nan Lambert Starjak wrote: > I just sent boardfeedback a link to one message on one of my boards. > Eighteen words are marked in this message. Two of them are surnames. > Why can they not build a list of all the surname lists and then run each message against that? I could do it under DOS so programmers must be able to do it under whatever is being run there. Ian Singer -- ========================================================================= See my homepage at http://www.iansinger.com hosted on http://www.1and1.com/?k_id=10623894 All genealogy is stored in TMG from http://www.whollygenes.com Charts and searching using TNG from http://www.tngsitebuilding.com I am near Toronto Canada, can I tell where you are from your reply? =========================================================================

I sent my own "two cents' worth" to Feedback, including the plea to make "Preview" actually give us a preview of what the Boards Information screen will show, instead of just showing the text and html code that we just pasted in the text box. To me, that is much more valuable than yet another "gadget" to play with. Jim

I just sent boardfeedback a link to one message on one of my boards. Eighteen words are marked in this message. Two of them are surnames. *sigh* Nan

With all the current problems that still need fixing why are they playing around with more "improvements" that don't work? Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BAd] New Message Board Feature Have you all seen the notice that was posted today about the new Message Boards feature? _http://boards.rootsweb.com/adminnews/20/mb.ashx_ (http://boards.rootsweb.com/adminnews/20/mb.ashx) **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du ffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

<Please take it off until it can be improved. At present it is torture.> I say, DITTO. Link it to the surname box instead. Sincerely, Judy Florian On 2/28/08, Wendy Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Rootsweb Feedback, > > The new feature announced today, where "surnames" are linked to > resources at Ancestry, is not an improvement as it stands at this > moment. If anything, it is extremely annoying, and may put people off > using the message boards. > > Too many non-surname words in posts are being picked up as surnames. > Many surnames are not picked up at all. > > How about linking to surnames put in the surname field? This will have > the advantage of avoiding picking up non-surname words AND encourage > posters to complete the field, which many do not bother with presently, > in my experience. > > Please take it off until it can be improved. At present it is torture. > > Kind Regards, > Wendy Howard

Beth- There is no reliable method of identifying a word in the message body as being a surname. Even though people don't always use the surname box correctly, it would still make more sense to use the names in THAT field for the links if they are going to have links. Perhaps, if they did it that way we could convince them to add a blurb explaining how to use the surname box correctly when posting! We've all been wanting that just about forever. Joan -------- I think the idea is good, but it needs to be made more practical for users and admins. Beth **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

In a message dated 2/28/2008 6:57:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Oh, yes, and here's a copy of a response I sent: I'm not sure this is ready to fly yet. ----------------------------------- I have to agree with you Beth. Here's a copy of my message to [email protected]: << << I'm afraid I find all those underlines extremely distracting when trying to read through a message. I've also noticed that first names are underlined and treated as surnames, along with other words such as the words All, Will, Any and Last in these messages: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.kelley/2082/mb.ashx http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.counties.lan caster/1277/mb.ashx >> Marilyn **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Have you all seen the notice that was posted today about the new Message Boards feature? _http://boards.rootsweb.com/adminnews/20/mb.ashx_ (http://boards.rootsweb.com/adminnews/20/mb.ashx) **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Thanks, Wendy -- that definitely is good news! Beth On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Wendy Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > Beth said "when cleaning up the surname area in message, I often copy > > particularly unusual surnames rather than retype them and possibly make > a spelling error. That's going to be difficult to do now." > > I do the same, and am working on some at the moment. The good news is > that those irritating new links are not visible when editing a post. [snip] -- "There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than cups of water in all the world's oceans. This means that some molecules in every cup of water you drink passed through the kidneys of Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Abe Lincoln, or any other historical person of your choosing." Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse in the Washington Post.

Joan, I wondered about that. It definitely would make more sense to use the names in the surname box, especially as it didn't recognize the actual surname in the example I gave. Given the problem with missing surnames in the box, if this thing works something like a spider couldn't it come back and "revisit" the message from time to time to pick up whatever surnames an admin has added? Beth On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:47 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Beth- > > There is no reliable method of identifying a word in the message body as > being a surname. Even though people don't always use the surname box correctly, > it would still make more sense to use the names in THAT field for the links if > they are going to have links. > > Perhaps, if they did it that way we could convince them to add a blurb > explaining how to use the surname box correctly when posting! We've all been > wanting that just about forever. > > Joan > -------- > > I think the idea is good, but it needs to be made more practical for > users and admins. > > Beth > > > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than cups of water in all the world's oceans. This means that some molecules in every cup of water you drink passed through the kidneys of Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Abe Lincoln, or any other historical person of your choosing." Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse in the Washington Post.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: [snip] > I have to agree with you Beth. Here's a copy of my message to > [email protected]: > > << << > I'm afraid I find all those underlines extremely distracting when trying to > read through a > message. [snip] Yes, the distraction factor is very high, especially when those balloons come flying out at you. The message area is small enough, and the balloons large enough, that almost no matter where you point your cursor something's popping out to interrupt the train of thought. Also, when cleaning up the surname area in message, I often copy particularly unusual surnames rather than retype them and possibly make a spelling error. That's going to be difficult to do now. I think the idea is good, but it needs to be made more practical for users and admins. Beth -- "There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than cups of water in all the world's oceans. This means that some molecules in every cup of water you drink passed through the kidneys of Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Abe Lincoln, or any other historical person of your choosing." Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse in the Washington Post.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Have you all seen the notice that was posted today about the new Message > Boards feature? Oh, yes, and here's a copy of a response I sent: I'm not sure this is ready to fly yet. Here's the first post I looked at (you can find it at http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.washington.counties.franklin/384/mb.ashx . Because of the need to send text messages only, the links aren't going to show up in this message, so you'll need to go to the actual URL to check it out. Lloyd C. Vooge was born 13 Oct 1927 in Towner County, North Dakota. He died 29 Aug 1986 in the Pasco area. Could someone please look up his obituary for me? I am hoping that it will give his mother's name. Thank you! Linked wrongly to a surname: Lloyd Towner County North Dakota Pasco Could Thank Not linked at all - the surname: Vooge Beth -- "There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than cups of water in all the world's oceans. This means that some molecules in every cup of water you drink passed through the kidneys of Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Abe Lincoln, or any other historical person of your choosing." Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse in the Washington Post.

Hooray! For the first time in quite a while doing admin work turned out to be a real joy. Moving from page to page no longer got hung up waiting for various referred URLs to kick in. Best of all, though, is that I didn't have to manually shut down Firefox in order to leave the board site.Here's a hearty "well done" for fixing those problems. Beth -- "There are more molecules of water in a cup of water than cups of water in all the world's oceans. This means that some molecules in every cup of water you drink passed through the kidneys of Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Abe Lincoln, or any other historical person of your choosing." Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse in the Washington Post.

All you county board admins be on the lookout for MORE BOARD SPAM from Richard Greene. He has hit hundreds of boards in the last month and a half and has hit 57 INDIANA boards this time. He has previously done this to NEBRASKA, IOWA, KANSAS, ILLINOIS, and many more. Elaine has been notified of the ones tonight. -- Take care, Kathie Harrison http://whispers.ancestralwhispers.com/

ok... so I am a bit late in this.... When you find a poster has cross posted...multiposted.... the correct procedure is to mark each and every one so that Staff can take care of them. Staff does not "have time" to go on a grand search, but can act if they are in the objection que. Staff occasionally taps volunteers on the shoulder to go and mark the mulitposts... so... if you find them and have time... mark all but the most appropriate and they will be deleted. Cheers, Lauren On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Tree-Digger <[email protected]> wrote: > Geez, and I thought only hitting my boards were getting "bombed", is it the > same person? I've been getting a copy of my "canned" letter that I send to > those who don't use the surnames subject line the right way - in the abuse > report. In addition they are using a variation of my home email address. I > figure that they will eventually get tired of it and stop - let's hope. > > I do have a couple of questions - I totally understand where Joan is coming > from, when you have 50 abuse reports at a time, it gets a little much > opening each thread, but when I find someone who has "the feel" of a newbie, > I always check view posts, and if I find other posts with the same problem, > then I go through and hit report abuse, I never check the board that they > are on. Should I do this or not? Also in regards to cross posting - I've > heard two different "rules". Do we report every single post, or just one to > staff? I've done it both ways, it gets a little trying when someone has > cross posted 20 times or more as in lots of cases, to report all of them. I > know that when some admins get the abuse report they just delete the post > themselves instead of waiting for staff - so when its not one of my boards, > and I've only reported it once, and it's deleted - the purpose has been > defeated. So what is the correct way of handling it? > > Thanks, > Rene' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, different strokes for different admins. I do the bulk of my review based on what gets sent to the paired mailing list from the gateway. When I spot a problem there, I then go to the message in question. -- Mary Lynne wrote: > [snip] > I imagine there are also some admins that only review the threads that > turn up in their Alerts (formerly Notifications) messages and just use > the links contained therein. > > > Lynne

Looks like we've all got our variations on the theme. I have *only* my adminned boards set for alerts. But I don't work off the email; I got out of that habit during one stretch of never knowing if the email would show up that day. I just go to my alerts list on the boards and check new posts from there. Nan -----Original Message----- >From: "Mary D. Taffet" <[email protected]> >Sent: Feb 13, 2008 12:10 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BAd] Cleaning entire board > > >Yes, different strokes for different admins. I do the bulk of my review >based on what gets sent to the paired mailing list from the gateway. >When I spot a problem there, I then go to the message in question. > >-- Mary > > >Lynne wrote: > >> [snip] >> I imagine there are also some admins that only review the threads that >> turn up in their Alerts (formerly Notifications) messages and just use >> the links contained therein. >> >> >> Lynne > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's probably it -- it just used to seem that cleaning the entire board was the usual. I did, when I first started, and had small boards. But then I got addicted to adopting . . . ;-) Nan -----Original Message----- >From: Diane Hettrick <[email protected]> >Sent: Feb 13, 2008 11:59 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BAd] Cleaning entire board > >I assumed it was a requirement - it may have simply been the culture of >this list and the amazing board managers who take over boards with >hundreds of messages, clean them all, and talk about it on this list >LOL. I'm very happy to let go of my guilt. I haven't touched an old >message since we switched to Mailman. >Diane > >Diane Hettrick >[email protected] > > >On Feb 13, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Lynne wrote: >>> --------- >>> Lynne wrote: >>> >>> When I began adminning boards the assumption was that admins would >>> look >>> at the entire board. >>> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message