After much reflection I want to share my thoughts with the Board and the USGW world, I guess, since this is an open read list. I write this while yawning in disgust. Folks, there just ain't gonna be an agreement between the parties to solve this mess. If Shari's motion is passed it will be ignored by both sides. So what you do you do then? The ACP is a special project of the Archives. The CP was originally THE Archives Census Project. It was pirated away by Kay, the privateer. In the meantime, the ByLaws arose out of the mists to sanction a Census Project. The CP fills that role now because the ACP is an Archives special project. Are you still with me or has everyone yawned in disgust also and fell asleep? Solution? None. But a workaround is possible. Let the CP continued as they are. Let the ACP continue as they are. Here is where the Board should come in. Insure that both projects answer email from transcribers and others in a timely fashion. If they don't answer mail, advertise the fact to the world causing as much embarassment as possible. Each can do transcriptions. The first to receive a message from a transcriber puts that person to work for their respective project and the other stays the hell out of THAT particular transcriber's business so that John Schunk doesn't have to send two CDs. The CP puts up a front page with only their transcriber information including the completed transcriptions, as they do now, and furnishes copies to the Archives, as they do now. The Acp puts up a front page with ALL transcriptions (but only ACP transcribers), including indexes...and etc. If anyone is still with me, read on for awhile longer. To sum up, there is enough work for both to do transcriptions. The Archives must have ALL the information to fulfill their role as the USGW Digital Library. Each has a front page to keep their egos happy. I hope that those in the trenches doing the work for both projects ignore any ego driven leadership from both projects and work together to satisfy the goal of getting the census online. Now I know there is something wrong with this and probably the first to answer will enlighten me. Joe -- Zsedeny Genealogy - http://www.rootsweb.com/~jzed/home.htm NDGenWeb Archives - http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nd/ndfiles.htm Pembina County, ND - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndpembin/pembina.htm Ramsey County, ND - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndramsey/ramsey.htm