I have been asked for my reasons for voting as I did; I replied personally to each who asked and am posting this publicly. Within minutes of voting for the "call the question", data acquisition from a remote research facility I help maintain "went south". I grabbed my cel phone, my laptop, a tool kit, whatever replacement parts and equipment I had on hand, and my earthquake emergency supplies for my lab. Going home to pack for the trip would have set me back at least 2 hours. My emergency supplies contained some clothing and blankets. I headed out the door, fully expecting to support Motion 00-8. When I stopped for gas, I called my family to appraise them of the situation, so they would know it was EMH Night. (Family code for Every Man/Woman for Him/Herself <g>) I was worried about finishing my income taxes and not getting back to vote for Motion 00-8 For the better part of two days, while getting our facility back on-line, my mind kept wandering back to the motion that I was sure had certainly had been called. I connected my cel phone to my lap top and was able to log onto the internet, but was only able to stay connected for a short period of time. I was unable to download messages or send messages. I did download the By-Laws. Section 2. The National Coordinator is responsible for the day-to-day administration of The USGenWeb Project and serves as the public representative for the project. The National Coordinator shall preside at all meetings of the Advisory Board, serve as an ex officio member of all sub-committees, and maintain the national organizational mail lists (i.e., State Coordinators, Advisory Board, and any appropriate sub-lists). Aside from meetings and mailing lists, what other "day-to-day administration" is there? It is what all CC's and SC's do on a daily basis -- maintain web pages or supervise a web master who maintains them. I have added -- and removed links to many sites over the years as a CC and SC in my "day-to-day duties". Section 5. The Advisory Board shall also have the responsibility to remove links from the national website, as appropriate, to websites which fail to meet the established guidelines/standards for The USGenWeb Project or to websites which display inappropriate content. Coordinators of any websites found to be in non-compliance shall be notified of such and shall be given a period of two (2) weeks in which to bring their website into compliance. The two-week time limit shall be flexible based on justifiable reasons presented by the website coordinator. In my view, this means: The Advisory Board has the responsibility to order the removal of links, if the NC did not remove them him/herself. Section 5 does not grant the Advisory Board *SOLE* responsibility for this action; just responsibility. Most states have an ASC as well as an SC -- the ASC has the responsibility for removing inappropriate links, just as much as the SC. An amendment to the By-Laws would certainly go a long ways to clearing this up. The duties and responsibilities of the NC need to be clearly defined, rather than a handwaving of "day-to-day duties". I arrived back in town, read my e-mail, and voted my conscience -- and went to bed. I had been up for about 48 hours straight. I consulted with no one about how I should vote. As the SC representative for the NW Plains, I heard from 2 SCs. I personally think de-linking is a bad idea; it costs us volunteers and gives us a bad reputation as an organization. I also do not think the link should have gone to the ACP; it should have just been removed. The major complaint in my eyes was an issue of removal of copyright information. The CP was repeatedly asked for over a year to restore the name of the copyright holder to the pages, and these requests were ignored; there was no reply from the CP coordinator to any of them. Holly Fee Timm is a member of the Professional HTML Writers Guild. If she wanted to add this site to her portfolio of web sites to show prospective clients, no where did it display her name. In my view, there will never be a resolution to this issue. If both sides desired a solution, it would have been solved long ago. Kay Mason once ICQ'd me and said "You wouldn't believe the problems I'm having with Linda." I ICQ'd back "What's wrong?" Even though Kay was on-line, I got silence. I waited 5 minutes and ICQ'd again. More silence. I sent an e-mail to Kay asking what I could do to help. That message, too, was never answered.