At 07:23 AM 4/23/00 -0400, you wrote: >Tim, > >You didn't even give the Census Project any type of notice before your had >our pages delinked and redirected. We had no notice it was going to happen >at all. Even 72 hours notice would have been nice. Well when you've been asked over and over for months on end to make the changes to your pages that would stop the copyright violation... >The notice is generous. They have known all along that we have been here >and yet have still refused to talk about anything. >Tim, please answer this question to me. How come everything is handled >differently by you in regards to the ACP than it is for us. The ACP is the Original Census Project. The CP is incorrectly named in the Bylaws. While the CP has some new files in it - it does have files pirated from the Archives. >You and the Board have treated the CP as public enemy #1, yet we are the >real, original Census Project. And the ACP has had carte blanche of your >affection for the longest time. >Why is that? They have plainly shown that it has been they that will not >deal, yet we have been at every talk. They do not give on issues, none, yet >we are expected to give on everything asked of us. Excuse me? In the December talks the ACP agreed to the name CHANGE, and to separate directories for census transcriptions apart from the Archives staff's control. >We have been asked to give up our identity, our sovereignty, our elected >officials, move to new locations and give up the way we process and upload. >What is left? When I turned that around and asked that this be given up by >them, I was vilified and chastised as not being the one who wanted to deal >or make concessions. >If the people on this list can't see plainly what has been going on, then it >is plain to see that they simply have their heads in the sand when it comes >to the ACP. >Linda has said spoken publicly and now privately to at least one person in >our Project. >Her opinions have not changed and she does not intend to give on any of the >items we think are necessary. I'd asked for a list of what you want to be posted here, but was only given a URL - perhaps you can post them here? Could you also post a list of what you have given up as a concession? >You and the Board have made her feel that she is justified and within her >rights to have things exactly the way she wants them. >Stacey is correct, whether any of you like it or not. The By-Laws are all >too clear and need no RE-interpretation by anyone when it comes to the >identity and the legality of The Census Project. The ACP was started after >we moved and all new people recruited to try and do the job. The ACP - rebuilt the files after they were pirated by Kay Mason. You see the Special Projects are not like State Projects. Texas isn't responsible for Idaho records nor is Idaho responsible for Delaware records. Each state is responsible for it's own records. The Special Projects named in the Bylaws being National in scope are handled in a different way. <snip> WANTing the Census Project to move backward and be back under the Archives >Control, Backward? Either the files from census transcriptions at a national level will go into the Archives - or it won't be a national effort - it will be some other effort. The census transcriptions were started so that ALL such transcriptions would go into our national digital library. >which is exactly what it would amount to, since the ACP Coordinator >is appointed by Linda and her allegiance is to the Archives, is not in the >best interest of the Project and not what the Census Project wants. You mean what Ron wants? > If the USGW Project wants there to be one Census Project then there needs to be >efforts made to get the ACP to understand that the By-Laws allow for our >Project and not their and that there needs to be concessions made by the ACP >to get them under our wing. > You have allienated many and >hurt many more by your unwarranted and illegal action against our Project. Delinking for copyright violation is not unwarranted. Why did you not just fix the copyright violations, give credit where credit is due, and ask to be relinked? Tim