David, The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in the message where you presented the motion. I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was included when I copied and pasted from your message. The explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please indicate so. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC & Alice Allen; Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda Lewis Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the motion I made and seconded by another AB. You altered the motion too much. Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is very specific. I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC David Samuelsen On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > no discussion > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sherri, still not satisfied. You have NOT asked for consent. You have no problems with other motions I had. David Samuelsen On 6/17/2010 9:10 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, > > The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you > wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you > think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't > include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in > the message where you presented the motion. > > I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was > included when I copied and pasted from your message. The > explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. > > Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please > indicate so. > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC& Alice Allen; > Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; > [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda > Lewis > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the > motion I made and seconded by another AB. > > You altered the motion too much. > > Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is > very specific. > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> no discussion >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway >>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>> >>> >>> >>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no >>> discussion". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

David, the difference between this motion and both the Guidelines Document and the Grievance Procedures updates motions were both items on the agenda. They'd waited their turn and made it to the top of the list. Discussion had been held on both, so no explanation of what the intent was and no personal opinion had a need to be in either of the motions. Not so with this one, on either count. The grievance procedures updates were postponed because there was a time line that we were working under to name the NWPL SC representative replacement, the permanent board secretary had resigned and we needed to name a new one and the guidelines document approval needed to be vetted against the election committee procedures to ensure that the EC procedures aligned with the guidelines document. As for the guidelines document discussion, that discussion was postponed with motion 2009/10-29. Quite honestly, I should have declared the motion out of order because it did not go through the process of being placed on the agenda and waiting its turn to get addressed. I did not because I didn't want to deal with the accusations that I was not recognizing it because I wanted to be sure to control the meeting by ensuring that the hearing didn't get postponed. It's up to you - the motion can stand as is (which is correctly presented) or it can be declared out of order and the item be put on the agenda and it waits its turn. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:53 PM To: Sherri Cc: [email protected]; 'Sherri'; 'Cyndie Enfinger'; 'Dale Grimm'; 'DC & Alice Allen'; 'Pauli Smith'; 'Bill'; 'Colleen Pustola'; 'AnnieG'; 'Les Shockey'; [email protected]; 'Denise Wells'; 'Larry Flesher'; 'Linda Lewis' Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Sherri, still not satisfied. You have NOT asked for consent. You have no problems with other motions I had. David Samuelsen On 6/17/2010 9:10 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, > > The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you > wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you > think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't > include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in > the message where you presented the motion. > > I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was > included when I copied and pasted from your message. The > explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. > > Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please > indicate so. > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC& Alice Allen; > Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; > [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda > Lewis > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the > motion I made and seconded by another AB. > > You altered the motion too much. > > Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is > very specific. > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> no discussion >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway >>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>> >>> >>> >>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no >>> discussion". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >