Resending - this bounced. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Linda Lewis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 I am in favor of tabling this item for the following reasons: - We've spent a long time on this item and in my opinion, it has not been an effective or productive use of our time; many more items are queued awaiting our attention. - Each proposed change seems to be met with controversy in the membership - not just in my region. I will further state that I am not now, nor ever have been, in favor of taking confidentiality to a paralyzing nth degree with regard to a grievance. Grievants cannot seek assistance from anyone with peripheral issues due to the extreme confidentiality definition. This very effectively freezes areas of the project which can result in a negative impact to all, particularly those involved in a grievance and the State itself. While grievances are a very important mechanism, they are not the equivalent of a murder trial and should be more like a civil case (IMO - have received input from numerous others that agree). I am in favor of setting the time limits and I am in favor of publishing the results but I am not in favor of the previous motion nor am I in favor of continuing this discussion at this time. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 OK, can we please have those that have issues with this motion speak up with exactly what you are having issues with and suggest wording changes? I've also received a few of comments from others that you may want to consider since we're reworking this anyway. First, from the Grievance Committee, the timing for filing a grievance is different for different situations. The suggestion is to change it to a straight 14 days to file from the incident occurred or was discovered or someone is terminated from the Project. (This suggestion is because the stated time frame for filing a grievance can be subject to interpretation if the person is removed from a project but is still a member of USGenWeb through another project.) Second, a time limit for filing an appeal should be stated. The suggestion is 10-14 days for that, too (so that we can actually close all of the loopholes and have complete closure on the issue). A limit to the number of times an appeal can be filed should also be added. Third, and we've all heard this from more than a few members, is the suggestion that once the grievance process is complete (including the possibility of filing an appeal), that at least basic information about the grievance should be released. The suggested info to be made public would be the names of the parties involved, whatever the reason the grievance was filed and the resolution of the grievance and any appeals. If you don't want to include these things, just let me know and we'll leave them on the agenda as a separate item. So, can you please speak up so that we can keep this moving? Thanks, Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 With 12 members voting, the motion to table motion 2009/10-23 fails. Those voting to table the motion: Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola, Linda Lewis and W. David Samuelsen Those voting against tabling the motion: Ann Allen Geoghegan, Dale Grimm, Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Pauli Smith and Tina Vickery Those not voting: Cyndie Enfinger Discussion will continue on motion 2009/10-23. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and seconded by Alice Allen. Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". 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