Annie and Alice bring up some valid points. I agree with them both; table the motion. Colleen On 4/28/2010 1:07 AM, DC & Alice Allen wrote: > My biggest reason to vote for tabling this for now is exactly what Annie brings up--the EC item on the agenda. > > The GC item is complicated, we've been dealing with it for a long time in one way or another. I think we need to put it aside to work on more pressing things. While this is *pressing* in its own right, I can see us still dealing with it right up to election time with no movement on the EC stuff. > > Alice > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 4/27/2010 at 6:44 AM [email protected] wrote: > > >> I would like to see all of it done at once. And we need to get on with it >> so we can move to the EC item on the agenda - there is an election very >> soon. >> >> AnnieG >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Sherri<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> OK, can we please have those that have issues with this motion speak up >>> with >>> exactly what you are having issues with and suggest wording changes? >>> >>> I've also received a few of comments from others that you may want to >>> consider since we're reworking this anyway. First, from the Grievance >>> Committee, the timing for filing a grievance is different for different >>> situations. The suggestion is to change it to a straight 14 days to file >>> from the incident occurred or was discovered or someone is terminated >>> >> from >> >>> the Project. (This suggestion is because the stated time frame for >>> >> filing >> >>> a >>> grievance can be subject to interpretation if the person is removed from >>> >> a >> >>> project but is still a member of USGenWeb through another project.) >>> >>> Second, a time limit for filing an appeal should be stated. The >>> >> suggestion >> >>> is 10-14 days for that, too (so that we can actually close all of the >>> loopholes and have complete closure on the issue). A limit to the number >>> of >>> times an appeal can be filed should also be added. >>> >>> Third, and we've all heard this from more than a few members, is the >>> suggestion that once the grievance process is complete (including the >>> possibility of filing an appeal), that at least basic information about >>> >> the >> >>> grievance should be released. The suggested info to be made public would >>> be >>> the names of the parties involved, whatever the reason the grievance was >>> filed and the resolution of the grievance and any appeals. >>> >>> If you don't want to include these things, just let me know and we'll >>> >> leave >> >>> them on the agenda as a separate item. >>> >>> So, can you please speak up so that we can keep this moving? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sherri >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sherri >>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:10 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 >>> >>> With 12 members voting, the motion to table motion 2009/10-23 fails. >>> >>> Those voting to table the motion: Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola, Linda >>> >> Lewis >> >>> and W. David Samuelsen >>> >>> Those voting against tabling the motion: Ann Allen Geoghegan, Dale Grimm, >>> Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Pauli Smith and Tina >>> Vickery >>> >>> Those not voting: Cyndie Enfinger >>> >>> Discussion will continue on motion 2009/10-23. >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sherri >>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 >>> >>> A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and >>> seconded by Alice Allen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond >>> with >>> "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Colleen, it can't be tabled, whether there are valid points or not in your opinion. The majority of the AB members indicated that they did not want the motion to be tabled, as indicated by the failure of the motion to table. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colleen Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 Annie and Alice bring up some valid points. I agree with them both; table the motion. Colleen On 4/28/2010 1:07 AM, DC & Alice Allen wrote: > My biggest reason to vote for tabling this for now is exactly what Annie brings up--the EC item on the agenda. > > The GC item is complicated, we've been dealing with it for a long time in one way or another. I think we need to put it aside to work on more pressing things. While this is *pressing* in its own right, I can see us still dealing with it right up to election time with no movement on the EC stuff. > > Alice > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 4/27/2010 at 6:44 AM [email protected] wrote: > > >> I would like to see all of it done at once. And we need to get on with it >> so we can move to the EC item on the agenda - there is an election very >> soon. >> >> AnnieG >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Sherri<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> OK, can we please have those that have issues with this motion speak up >>> with >>> exactly what you are having issues with and suggest wording changes? >>> >>> I've also received a few of comments from others that you may want to >>> consider since we're reworking this anyway. First, from the Grievance >>> Committee, the timing for filing a grievance is different for different >>> situations. The suggestion is to change it to a straight 14 days to file >>> from the incident occurred or was discovered or someone is terminated >>> >> from >> >>> the Project. (This suggestion is because the stated time frame for >>> >> filing >> >>> a >>> grievance can be subject to interpretation if the person is removed from >>> >> a >> >>> project but is still a member of USGenWeb through another project.) >>> >>> Second, a time limit for filing an appeal should be stated. The >>> >> suggestion >> >>> is 10-14 days for that, too (so that we can actually close all of the >>> loopholes and have complete closure on the issue). A limit to the number >>> of >>> times an appeal can be filed should also be added. >>> >>> Third, and we've all heard this from more than a few members, is the >>> suggestion that once the grievance process is complete (including the >>> possibility of filing an appeal), that at least basic information about >>> >> the >> >>> grievance should be released. The suggested info to be made public would >>> be >>> the names of the parties involved, whatever the reason the grievance was >>> filed and the resolution of the grievance and any appeals. >>> >>> If you don't want to include these things, just let me know and we'll >>> >> leave >> >>> them on the agenda as a separate item. >>> >>> So, can you please speak up so that we can keep this moving? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Sherri >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sherri >>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:10 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] RESULTS: Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 >>> >>> With 12 members voting, the motion to table motion 2009/10-23 fails. >>> >>> Those voting to table the motion: Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola, Linda >>> >> Lewis >> >>> and W. David Samuelsen >>> >>> Those voting against tabling the motion: Ann Allen Geoghegan, Dale Grimm, >>> Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Pauli Smith and Tina >>> Vickery >>> >>> Those not voting: Cyndie Enfinger >>> >>> Discussion will continue on motion 2009/10-23. >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Sherri >>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 >>> >>> A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and >>> seconded by Alice Allen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond >>> with >>> "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message