David, Please point me to what parliamentary rule you are using for this reasoning, please? I believe the outcome of this one was decided before the election began. The top two vote receivers were to be elected - most votes gets 2 year term and second most votes gets 1 year term. Thanks! Betsy ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Mainegen@aol.com Reply-To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:39:09 EDT >Dear Board Members: The other election SW/SC CC Race, Candidate A 59 (This person is election in my opinion) Candidate B 52 (needs have a run off election with the C, & D) Candidate C 45 (needs to have a run off election with the B & D) Candidate D 45 (needs to have a run off election with the B &C) -> This is a difficult one,but my reasons for my opinion are stated below. ->Candidate A with 59 votes, won the election ->and B, C, & D should go for a run off election, that is unless C or/and D want to drop out of the race. ->Now you can see the power that people have when they ballot just one vote. A voter might have voted first for D and their second vote might have been for B, if so they just voted against the person they wanted to win. ->The way I see this is that with 136 ballots and 201 votes then ->Out of the 136 ballots 71 voted for one person -> 65 voted for two people ->50% of 65 is rounded to 33, therefore 71+33=104. 104x50%=52 -> Because the 2nd place finisher did not get one vote over 50% then it looks like a run off election should be held with B, C & D. -> Enjoy, -> David C. Young >>

At 09:00 PM 8/1/99 -0400, you wrote: >Board Members... We need your direction on these races. >Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. > >NC Race > >Candidate A 253 >Candidate B 160 >Candidate C 102 > >No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. No comment. >SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie > >We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a >tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. Why not tell both candidates, see if they can agree on a tie breaking procedure? >SW/SC CC Representative > >Candidate A 59 >Candidate B 52 >Candidate C 45 >Candidate D 45 I was under the impression that the Board had already said that the top two vote getters would be the Reps for this area. I don't exactly remember but was one position for 1 year and one for 2 years? Tim >Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, >majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one >candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to >determine a majority. >Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 >candidates have a majority > >Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off >elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a >two week time period. A month seems too long. We would >suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th >through Wednesday, August 18th. > >We would like to announce the races that have been decided >on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be >nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the >SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at >that time. > >Thanks for your support, >The Election Committee > >

In a message dated 8/1/99 9:00:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net writes: << Subj: [BOARD-L] Re: [ELECTIONS-L] preliminary results Date: 8/1/99 9:00:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net (jpowelljr) Reply-to: ELECTIONS-L@rootsweb.com To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com Board Members... We need your direction on these races. Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. NC Race Candidate A 253 Candidate B 160 Candidate C 102 No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. ->Yes, I believe what was done the last time the votes were this close, a run off between the top two. SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. SW/SC CC Representative Candidate A 59 Candidate B 52 Candidate C 45 Candidate D 45 Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to determine a majority. Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 candidates have a majority Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a two week time period. A month seems too long. We would suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th through Wednesday, August 18th. ->Yes, Have a run off election for NC. Okay with me. We would like to announce the races that have been decided on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at that time. Thanks for your support, The Election Committee >> Candidate A 59 Candidate B 52 Candidate C 45 Candidate D 45 -> This is a difficult one. ->Candidate A with 59 votes, won the election ->and B, C, & D should go for a run off election, that is unless C or/and D want to drop out of the race. ->Now you can see the power that people have when they place just one vote. A voter might have voted first for D and their second vote might have been for B, if so they just voted against the person they wanted to win. ->The way I see this is that with 136 ballots and 201 votes then ->Out of the 136 ballots 71 voted for one person -> 65 voted for two people ->50% of 65 is rounded to 33, therefore 71+33=104. 104x50%=52 -> Because the 2nd place finisher did not get 50% plus one vote than it looks like a run off election should be held with B, C & D. -> Enjoy, -> David C. Young

Fellow Board Members... The original message that I just sent was CC'd to the Election list. If you just "Reply" it will be sent to the Election List as a {Not a Subscriber} message, we don't mind, but if you do watch the address when you reply. It wasn't intentional. Please check this one for the same problem. We will follow your lead, if has been decided that the top two in the 4 way race are elected, we will drop that one from our list of "help needed". On your other point, I would assume that in a two way race if you use "votes cast" to determine a majority only a tie could prevent one of the two from acquiring a majority. Jim

Board Members... We need your direction on these races. Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. NC Race Candidate A 253 Candidate B 160 Candidate C 102 No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. SW/SC CC Representative Candidate A 59 Candidate B 52 Candidate C 45 Candidate D 45 Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to determine a majority. Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 candidates have a majority Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a two week time period. A month seems too long. We would suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th through Wednesday, August 18th. We would like to announce the races that have been decided on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at that time. Thanks for your support, The Election Committee

Hi Fellow Volunteers... Our election is almost over. Before anyone has time to start asking "where are the results" we would like to tell you when they will be released. We will be posting the results Monday August 2nd at 10 PM EST. We would appreciate your continued patience. Thanks, Jim and the Election Committee Please pass this on...

There is a USGenWeb Project banner in the RootsWeb rotation! Thanks, RootsWeb!! Betsy At 08:48 PM 07/30/1999 -0400, jpowelljr wrote: > >Hi Fellow Board Members... The following seems like a >fairly good idea to me. What do the rest of you think? >Jim > >Hi reps! > >Below is a snippet from a post I sent yesterday to the CC >list. Since >I've gotten some private support for the idea and since >there has been >some ongoing discussion on how to get the USGW more >publicity, I thought >the board might be interested in the idea. > >If the Board does decide to pursue the banner idea, might I >recommend that >Pam Reid design them? She's done a great job with the >webpage redesign; >I'm sure she'd make some very nice banners. > >-Teresa Lindquist > >cc'd to Tim Stowell > > >[big snip] > >Actually, I have been told that on many pages, particularly >those that do >not default to commercial advertising, RW flies banners for >groups that it >hosts, such as Kindred Konnections, Notable Women and the >IBSSG. Maybe >USGenWeb should devise a banner for rotation in this series. >I think that >would be an excellent way to get some more publicity for the >Project. The >various Special Projects might also want to have banners to >rotate in this >series. > >-Teresa >========== >

Hi Fellow Board Members... The following seems like a fairly good idea to me. What do the rest of you think? Jim Hi reps! Below is a snippet from a post I sent yesterday to the CC list. Since I've gotten some private support for the idea and since there has been some ongoing discussion on how to get the USGW more publicity, I thought the board might be interested in the idea. If the Board does decide to pursue the banner idea, might I recommend that Pam Reid design them? She's done a great job with the webpage redesign; I'm sure she'd make some very nice banners. -Teresa Lindquist cc'd to Tim Stowell [big snip] Actually, I have been told that on many pages, particularly those that do not default to commercial advertising, RW flies banners for groups that it hosts, such as Kindred Konnections, Notable Women and the IBSSG. Maybe USGenWeb should devise a banner for rotation in this series. I think that would be an excellent way to get some more publicity for the Project. The various Special Projects might also want to have banners to rotate in this series. -Teresa ==========

We get kudos! - Tim > >I cannot begin to thank this group for what they do for genealogist. I have >tried for 25 years to prove my Cherokee Indian heritage, and through this >sight:http://www.usgenweb.com I have made contact with an individual that >sent me documents to prove my heritage. Thank you, Thank you. Laura > >

As Directed in Motion 99-21 - "Where as, no ballots where issued and will not be issued to the following regions; Northwest/Plains Region and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, for the 1999 Advisory Board elections for the CC-Representatives, due to the CC-Representative races in both of these regions having only one candidate for the board seat for that region, I move that Bill Oliver, Advisory Board Secretary, be directed, by this Board to cast one vote for each of the following candidates: Northwest/Plains Region, CC Representative: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, CC Representative: Teri Pettit, thus insuring they are properly elected as the bylaws require." The Secretary casts one affirmative vote for the position of NW/Plains Region CC Representative for Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman and one affirmative vote for the position of SE/Mid-Atlantic Region CC Representative for Teri Pettit. Respectfully, Bill Oliver Secretary, USGenWebProject Advisory Board

Pam.....you mean you can't log on with a boat?<G> Have fun, and don't tell her the Foster honor is at stake.<VBG> piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Reid <pamreid@dc.jones.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 24 July, 1999 22:16 Subject: [BOARD-L] My Vacation > Hi All, > > I will be leaving for vacation Tuesday morning, July 27 and I won't be > back until Aug. 2. We are driving up to St. Catharines, Ontario to see > my daughter row in the Royal Canadian Henley. She is attending a > USRowing Jr. National Team development camp and this will be their last > event of the summer. If anyone is interested in this, I posted the > Washington Post article about Sunny and the other three kids from Prince > William County on the TJ Crew Booster's web site. > http://dc.jones.com/~pamreid/tjcrew/pwc.html > > So, you can reach me until Monday night. Unfortunately, I haven't > invested in a laptop yet, so I won't have any internet access while I am > away. > > Pam

Hi All, I will be leaving for vacation Tuesday morning, July 27 and I won't be back until Aug. 2. We are driving up to St. Catharines, Ontario to see my daughter row in the Royal Canadian Henley. She is attending a USRowing Jr. National Team development camp and this will be their last event of the summer. If anyone is interested in this, I posted the Washington Post article about Sunny and the other three kids from Prince William County on the TJ Crew Booster's web site. http://dc.jones.com/~pamreid/tjcrew/pwc.html So, you can reach me until Monday night. Unfortunately, I haven't invested in a laptop yet, so I won't have any internet access while I am away. Pam

Hi Fellow SCs and ASCs... We have one week to go before this election is over. There are a few eligible voters that we have sent ballots to in all three of our ballot mailings, that still have not recieved their ballot. This is what the Election Committee would like to do. Each SC should check one more time for voters without ballots. Then contact each one that replies and give them a code number (Code will be your state abbreviation with a number from 1 to the number of voters without ballots that you have) and this request... Copy and past the needed ballots into one email, have them mark their votes and send the Ballots to their Regional Election Volunteer and CC it to me (place "Missing Ballot Vote XX#"(use their Code number) in the subject line). Each SC should also send the Regional Election Volunteer a note with the number of votors they have conatcted about this procedure, I would appreciate a CC of these messages too. Remember to be eligible for this procedure they must have a code from you. Please make a note of who received what number. The ballots and Regional Election Committee Volunteers are listed at this URL... http://www.rootsweb.com/~mogenweb/state.htm . One change Ellen Pack's address should be epack@accessearth.net . Thanks for your help and support, Jim

Hi Fellow Volunteers... This is a URL for information on the Voting Software, etc. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mogenweb/election/state.htm Beneath the listing of ballots on this site there is a rundown of the way the software works and the human interaction with it. If anyone has any questions or comments, please use the elections@usgenweb.org address. We welcome your constructive input. Thanks, Jim for Debbie Jerimiah Ellen Betsy Yvonne Tim Richard

Motion 99-21 passes with 14 yes - 0 no - 1 not voting. Bill will you send a note to the Election Committee - with this 'vote'? Thanks. Tim

Aye on both. piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 14 July, 1999 1:31 Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 99-21 >Please vote on the call of the question. > >Please also vote on Motion 99-21 - > >"Where as, no ballots where issued and will not be issued to the following >regions; Northwest/Plains Region and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, for the >1999 Advisory Board elections for the CC-Representatives, due to the >CC-Representative races in both of these regions having only one candidate >for the board seat for that region, I move that Bill Oliver, Advisory Board >Secretary, be directed, by this Board to cast one vote for each of the >following candidates: Northwest/Plains Region, CC Representative: Maggie >Stewart-Zimmerman and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, CC Representative: >Teri Pettit, thus insuring they are properly elected as the bylaws require." > > >Thanks, > >Tim >

Call the question -- Aye Motion 99-21 -- Aye Bridgett On 14 Jul 99, at 3:36, Tim Stowell wrote: > Please vote on the call of the question. > > Please also vote on Motion 99-21 - > > "Where as, no ballots where issued and will not be issued to the following > regions; Northwest/Plains Region and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, for > the 1999 Advisory Board elections for the CC-Representatives, due to the > CC-Representative races in both of these regions having only one candidate > for the board seat for that region, I move that Bill Oliver, Advisory > Board Secretary, be directed, by this Board to cast one vote for each of > the following candidates: Northwest/Plains Region, CC Representative: > Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, CC > Representative: Teri Pettit, thus insuring they are properly elected as > the bylaws require." > > > Thanks, > > Tim > >

AYE on the call for the question AYE on Motion 99-21 Bonnie McVicar-Briggs mishiawa@shiatel.tds.net ICQ#29402181 USGENWEB PROJECT Volunteer Shiawassee County, MI http://www2.crosswinds.net/~shiawassee/mishiawa.html Clinton County, MI http://www.rootsweb.com/~miclinto/clintmn.htm

Tim Stowell wrote: > > Please vote on the call of the question. > > Please also vote on Motion 99-21 - > > "Where as, no ballots where issued and will not be issued to the following > regions; Northwest/Plains Region and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, for the > 1999 Advisory Board elections for the CC-Representatives, due to the > CC-Representative races in both of these regions having only one candidate > for the board seat for that region, I move that Bill Oliver, Advisory Board > Secretary, be directed, by this Board to cast one vote for each of the > following candidates: Northwest/Plains Region, CC Representative: Maggie > Stewart-Zimmerman and Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Region, CC Representative: > Teri Pettit, thus insuring they are properly elected as the bylaws require." > > Thanks, > > Tim Aye to both. Joe

Aye to both! Pam Reid