Hi Fellow Volunteers... There is only one way to put this, we made a mistake. I found something that didn't look quite right in the SE/MA SC Representative election. When we investigated this we realized that we had added a voter, that was not an SC or ASC in that Region, to the list for that race during one of our missing ballot additions. We also discovered that this voter voted. We have checked with both Candidates and they would like us to reveal the New Board member using the previous vote minus the ineligible voter. We would understand if some of you are disappointed in us, but we are striving to be fair, honest and true to ourselves in this and all issues that come before us. We apologize for allowing this to happen. Remember elections@usgenweb.org is the address for your comments. The vote count for the SE/MA State Coordinator Representative Race as it now stands is... Leigh Compton 10 Shari Handley 11 New Board Member Hopefully still worthy of your trust, Jim

Hi Pam and fellow Board Members... We will be answering that question very shortly. Jim Pam Reid wrote: > > Jim, > > Will the other run off election be handled the same way? > > Thanks, Pam

Jim, Will the other run off election be handled the same way? Thanks, Pam

Fellow Volunteers... Due to recently forseen Circumstances, you will not be receiving Run Off Elections Ballots this evening. The Run Off Election has not been postponed. To see the reason for this contradictory message please got to http://vote.rootsweb.com/usgw-nc.html and follow the directions and PROCEED TO VOTE. Thanks for understanding, The Election Committee

I agree with Megan. We brought the new folks onto the list to observe and ask questions so that they could hit the floor running on Sept 1st. Unfortunatley last year it seemed that no one ask questions and ther was very little discussion during the transition period. Hence we spent the first couple of months on proccedural stuff. Lets get to know the new folks and orient them so that the board can have a productive year. I would also like to say what a great job the election committee did and is doing conducting this election. Thanks Trey At 05:12 PM 8/3/99 -0500, Ms. Piglet wrote: >Last year, about a week after the election results were in, we invited the >new members onto the board list so that they'd have a chance to ask >questions, etc., before we left. There's no etched-in-stone policy on it of >course, but it's something to consider doing.... > >Megan "Piglet" Zurawicz piglet@rootsweb.com >RootsWeb Community Mentor and general dogsbody >http://communities.rootsweb.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: Beth Wills <bethw@kvi.net> >To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, 03 August, 1999 16:59 >Subject: [BOARD-L] Congrats! > > >> Congrats to all of the new board members. I hope you have a fruitful and >> rewarding term. >> >> I know that it appeared as though I had fallen off the face of the earth >for >> the past few days. But, the truth is - they are building a new house next >> door to us and when they started to dig to connect the power - snap! when >> the underground telephone cable. We have been without phone serve ( and >of >> course internet service) for the last few days. There is some beauty in >> having all underground power and telephone lines - they never blow down >:-) >> But, this is a brand new subdivision, and if I loose my phone every time >> they build a new house - it's gonna get ugly! >> >> Congrats and best of luck to you all. When do the new members actually >come >> on board? Sept !? >> >> >> Beth Wills >> bethw@kvi.net >> > > >

Letting you all know that I have a change of email addy: shadow13@kmtel.net Lynn

Last year, about a week after the election results were in, we invited the new members onto the board list so that they'd have a chance to ask questions, etc., before we left. There's no etched-in-stone policy on it of course, but it's something to consider doing.... Megan "Piglet" Zurawicz piglet@rootsweb.com RootsWeb Community Mentor and general dogsbody http://communities.rootsweb.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Wills <bethw@kvi.net> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 03 August, 1999 16:59 Subject: [BOARD-L] Congrats! > Congrats to all of the new board members. I hope you have a fruitful and > rewarding term. > > I know that it appeared as though I had fallen off the face of the earth for > the past few days. But, the truth is - they are building a new house next > door to us and when they started to dig to connect the power - snap! when > the underground telephone cable. We have been without phone serve ( and of > course internet service) for the last few days. There is some beauty in > having all underground power and telephone lines - they never blow down :-) > But, this is a brand new subdivision, and if I loose my phone every time > they build a new house - it's gonna get ugly! > > Congrats and best of luck to you all. When do the new members actually come > on board? Sept !? > > > Beth Wills > bethw@kvi.net >

Congrats to all of the new board members. I hope you have a fruitful and rewarding term. I know that it appeared as though I had fallen off the face of the earth for the past few days. But, the truth is - they are building a new house next door to us and when they started to dig to connect the power - snap! when the underground telephone cable. We have been without phone serve ( and of course internet service) for the last few days. There is some beauty in having all underground power and telephone lines - they never blow down :-) But, this is a brand new subdivision, and if I loose my phone every time they build a new house - it's gonna get ugly! Congrats and best of luck to you all. When do the new members actually come on board? Sept !? Beth Wills bethw@kvi.net

Congratulations to all New Board Members and Good Luck to those involved with runoffs. Bill Board Sec. -- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USGW-CC-L: Election Results Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 21:58:58 -0400 From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: USGW-CC-L@usgennet.org To: ELECTIONS-L@rootsweb.com, STATE-COORD-List <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com>,USGW-CC-L <USGW-CC-L@usgennet.org>,USGenWeb-SE-L <USGenWeb-SE-L@rootsweb.com>,USGENWEB-ALL <USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com> References: <199908011601.JAA10346@rb-65.rootsweb.com> <003701bedc3e$7b3b00a0$23885ea0@tc.umn.edu> <37A47FF2.5DD271FD@worldnet.att.net> <003b01bedc48$ef80bc20$23885ea0@tc.umn.edu> Fellow Volunteers... Here are the results of our elections. We have 7 races with a decision and 2 still to be decided. We would like to say thank you to all of the Candidates for being willing to serve in these positions. And to the Volunteers for voting, thank you. All of you are winners because you participated. The races that have been decided are... At-Large Representative results - 458 ballots cast 61 : Gary Martens 109 : Roger Swafford 288 : Holly Timm.........New Board Member Northeast/North Central County Coordinator Rep results - 160 ballots cast 59 : Ron Eason 84 : Tina S. Vickery.........New Board Member 17 : Nate Zipfel Northeast/North Central State Coordinator Rep results - 13 ballots cast 7 : Ginger Hayes..........New Board Member 6 : David Young Northwest/Plains State Coordinator Rep results - 14 ballots cast 5 : Lynn Waterman 9 : Joy Fisher.............New Board Member Southwest/South Central County Coordinator Rep results - 136 ballots cast 59 : Barbara Dore......... New Board Member 2 year term 45 : Larry Flesher 45 : Teresa Lindquist 52 : Gloria B. Mayfield....New Board Member 1 year term Northwest/Plains Region CC Representative Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman.... New Board Member... With one vote from the Board Secretary in unopposed race. Southeast/Mid-Atlantic Representative CC Representative Teri Pettit............New Board Member... With one vote from the Board Secretary in unopposed race. There will be a run off election to decide the following races. The Runoff will begin Midnight Wednesday August 4th and end Midnight Wednesday August 18th. National Coordinator results - 515 ballots cast 253 : Tim Stowell 160 : Fred Smoot 102 : Bill Oliver Southeast/Mid-Atlantic State Coordinator Rep results - 22 ballots cast 11 : Leigh Compton 11 : Shari Handley These results will will soon be posted at http://www.rootsweb.com/~mogenweb/election/state.htm . Well it not quite over, but if you have suggestions or complaints or even possibly a compliment, we would be pleased to accept them at elections@usgenweb.org . Thanks for your support, The Election Committee

Jim, The consensus of the Board appears to be to hold a runoff for the top two candidates for NC, a runoff for the SE/MA SC race, and that for the SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, second person gets the one year term. Tim

I'll go with this. Bill -- FEATHER2s@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/99 11:25:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > piglet@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B > > SE/MA race: Runoff. Not a clue at this time what to do in case of second > > runoff; hope it won't happen. > > SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, > > second person gets the one year term. > > This sounds like a good plan to me! <g> As for the SE/MA, I think the Bylaws > would require us to keep trying until a definite majority is reached, so > hopefully it won't come to that! > > Ginger

Sounds good to me! Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Ms. Piglet <piglet@rootsweb.com> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Re: [ELECTIONS-L] preliminary results >Ok, let me make this as a clear and precise proposal of action, and either >y'all agree to it or shoot it down, right quick.<G> > >NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B >SE/MA race: Runoff. Not a clue at this time what to do in case of second >runoff; hope it won't happen. >SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, >second person gets the one year term. > >If nobody's got a good reason why this doesn't work, can we get this off to >Jim quickly? > >piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 >genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet >quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet >theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm > >----- Original Message ----- >From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> >To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, 01 August, 1999 20:00 >Subject: [BOARD-L] Re: [ELECTIONS-L] preliminary results > > >> Board Members... We need your direction on these races. >> Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. >> >> NC Race >> >> Candidate A 253 >> Candidate B 160 >> Candidate C 102 >> >> No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. >> >> SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie >> >> We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a >> tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. >> >> SW/SC CC Representative >> >> Candidate A 59 >> Candidate B 52 >> Candidate C 45 >> Candidate D 45 >> >> Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, >> majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one >> candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to >> determine a majority. >> Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 >> candidates have a majority >> >> Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off >> elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a >> two week time period. A month seems too long. We would >> suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th >> through Wednesday, August 18th. >> >> We would like to announce the races that have been decided >> on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be >> nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the >> SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at >> that time. >> >> Thanks for your support, >> The Election Committee >

David, on this race I believe we specified before the election that with two candidates to be elected it would be the top two vote getters; on that basis I see no justification for a runoff. If #2 and #3 had gotten the same # of votes (instead of #3 and #4), then I'd be able to see it. piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mainegen@aol.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 02 August, 1999 10:45 Subject: [BOARD-L] David Young's opinion > In a message dated 8/2/99 11:25:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > piglet@rootsweb.com writes: > > << NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B > AGREE > > SW/SC race: In this last election, in my opinion, A wins the two year term. > B, C, & D have to run off for the one year term office. > > > Enjoy, > > David C Young

Agree with Megan's solution! Joe "Ms. Piglet" wrote: > Ok, let me make this as a clear and precise proposal of action, and either > y'all agree to it or shoot it down, right quick.<G> > > NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B > SE/MA race: Runoff. Not a clue at this time what to do in case of second > runoff; hope it won't happen. > SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, > second person gets the one year term. > > If nobody's got a good reason why this doesn't work, can we get this off to > Jim quickly? > > piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 > genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet > quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet > theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> > To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, 01 August, 1999 20:00 > Subject: [BOARD-L] Re: [ELECTIONS-L] preliminary results > > > Board Members... We need your direction on these races. > > Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. > > > > NC Race > > > > Candidate A 253 > > Candidate B 160 > > Candidate C 102 > > > > No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. > > > > SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie > > > > We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a > > tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. > > > > SW/SC CC Representative > > > > Candidate A 59 > > Candidate B 52 > > Candidate C 45 > > Candidate D 45 > > > > Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, > > majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one > > candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to > > determine a majority. > > Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 > > candidates have a majority > > > > Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off > > elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a > > two week time period. A month seems too long. We would > > suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th > > through Wednesday, August 18th. > > > > We would like to announce the races that have been decided > > on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be > > nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the > > SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at > > that time. > > > > Thanks for your support, > > The Election Committee -- email:jzsed@slic.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~jzed/home.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndpembin/pembina.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~ndramsey/ramsey.htm

Ok, let me make this as a clear and precise proposal of action, and either y'all agree to it or shoot it down, right quick.<G> NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B SE/MA race: Runoff. Not a clue at this time what to do in case of second runoff; hope it won't happen. SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, second person gets the one year term. If nobody's got a good reason why this doesn't work, can we get this off to Jim quickly? piglet (megan zurawicz) ICQ: 18429839 genealogy-- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~piglet quilting-- http://pages.prodigy.net/mspiglet theatre-- http://members.aol.com/tupacratz/poohpix.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 01 August, 1999 20:00 Subject: [BOARD-L] Re: [ELECTIONS-L] preliminary results > Board Members... We need your direction on these races. > Candidates are listed by totals, not position on the Ballot. > > NC Race > > Candidate A 253 > Candidate B 160 > Candidate C 102 > > No Majority. We assume that there would be a runoff. > > SE/MA SC Representative is an 11 / 11 tie > > We assume a runoff again. But you need to come up with a > tie breaking procedure for a possible second tie. > > SW/SC CC Representative > > Candidate A 59 > Candidate B 52 > Candidate C 45 > Candidate D 45 > > Problem, we received 136 ballots (272 potential votes, > majority would be 68) so a lot of people only voted for one > candidate. We suggest that you use actual votes to > determine a majority. > Total votes 201, one quarter of 201 round to 51, 2 > candidates have a majority > > Do you want us to run the run off elections? On the run off > elections, what is the time period? We would like to see a > two week time period. A month seems too long. We would > suggest holding this runoff from Wednesday, August 4th > through Wednesday, August 18th. > > We would like to announce the races that have been decided > on our original schedule, Monday at 10 PM EST. It would be > nice to report the runoffs schedule and the results of the > SW/SC CC Race, if you consider that race to be decided, at > that time. > > Thanks for your support, > The Election Committee

Dear Board Members: Yes, need to have a run off election for NC. But, will not needed a runoff for the SW region. I will agree to A= two year term and B = one year term My thinking was a little twisted. It was about 35 people who only voted once, as there were 201 votes and not 272. We know that there were 136 people voting but we know that the number of people who only voted once and the other who voted twice, but we do not know who voted of whom. It will be best just not to go there. This method might be easy for running an election, but most places do not run this type of election with four or more people running for two seats. We can all have opinions of what is fair and what is not. I guess it will on depend on if your person won or not. <g> If the people do not like the person that came in 2nd place, well, maybe they should have uses there other vote? Enjoy, David C. Young

In a message dated 8/2/99 11:47:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, betsym@1starnet.com writes: << I believe the outcome of this one was decided before the election began. The top two vote receivers were to be elected - most votes gets 2 year term and second most votes gets 1 year term. Thanks! Betsy >> Dear Betsy: I agree that A being the winner of the election. But I want to make sure that I understand where Ginger & Megan stand on the four way race. Are they calling for a run off of all four people in the SW region? Before the election we did talk about this, but at the time it was three people running for two seats. As I remember it the top vote getter would get the two year office. But because this race is four people running for two seats and the 2nd place finisher has only 50% of the vote, I feel that it requires a run-off election. If the person had 50% plus one vote, this would be a different story. Enjoy, David C. Young

In a message dated 8/2/99 11:25:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, piglet@rootsweb.com writes: << NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B AGREE SW/SC race: In this last election, in my opinion, A wins the two year term. B, C, & D have to run off for the one year term office. Enjoy, David C Young

Dear Board Members: This messages has been edited. If it is still not clear, I will try again before I have go to work today. In a message dated 8/2/99 6:46:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mainegen writes: NC Race Candidate A 253 Candidate B 160 Candidate C 102 ->Yes, I believe what was done the last time. In my opinion we should have a run off election between the top two. That would be A & B. Yes, hold the run off elections, from Wednesday, August 4th through Wednesday, August 18th. ->Yes, Have a run off election for NC. Okay with me. The other election SW/SC CC Race, Candidate A 59 (This person is election in my opinion) Candidate B 52 (needs have a run off election with the C, & D) Candidate C 45 (needs to have a run off election with the B & D) Candidate D 45 (needs to have a run off election with the B &C) -> This is a difficult one,but my reasons for my opinion are stated below. ->Candidate A with 59 votes, won the election ->and B, C, & D should go for a run off election, that is unless C or/and D want to drop out of the race. ->Now you can see the power that people have when they ballot just one vote. A voter might have voted first for D and their second vote might have been for B, if so they just voted against the person they wanted to win. ->The way I see this is that with 136 ballots and 201 votes then ->Out of the 136 ballots 71 voted for one person -> 65 voted for two people ->50% of 65 is rounded to 33, therefore 71+33=104. 104x50%=52 -> Because the 2nd place finisher did not get one vote over 50% then it looks like a run off election should be held with B, C & D. -> Enjoy, -> David C. Young >>

In a message dated 8/2/99 11:25:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, piglet@rootsweb.com writes: > > NC race: Yes, a runoff, candidates A & B > SE/MA race: Runoff. Not a clue at this time what to do in case of second > runoff; hope it won't happen. > SW/SC race: Top two vote getters win; top person gets the two year term, > second person gets the one year term. This sounds like a good plan to me! <g> As for the SE/MA, I think the Bylaws would require us to keep trying until a definite majority is reached, so hopefully it won't come to that! Ginger