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Virginia (Ginger) Cisewski NW-Plains CC Rep --part1_be.49ef023.266805b1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <cjsnyder@midusa.net> Received: from rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (rly-zc04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.4]) by air-zc05.mail.aol.com (v73.13) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:35:51 -0400 Received: from mail.midusa.net (radius1.midusa.net [216.96.0.2]) by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:35:24 -0400 Received: from midusa.net (216096077003.midusa.net [216.96.77.3]) by mail.midusa.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA29948251; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:35:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39367493.EE95E138@midusa.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:35:00 -0500 From: Connie Snyder <cjsnyder@midusa.net> Organization: NEGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~negenweb/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tstowell@chattanooga.net, jzsed@slic.com, pamreid@home.com, hollyft@bright.net, gingerh@shawneelink.com, richpump@wf.net, TVick65536@aol.com, jfisher@ucla.edu, FEATHER2s@aol.com, MaggieOhio@columbus.rr.com, shari@klondyke.net, jpowelljr@gru.net, pettit@Adobe.COM, betsym@1starnet.com, gbmayfield@tyler.net, RootsLady@email.msn.com, USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: USGW Bylaws Amendment Proposal: Article XVII Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The members of the NEGenWeb Project have voted to co-sponsor this amendment proposal, along with the original sponsor, the COGenWeb Project. Connie Snyder State Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project ________________________________________________ ARTICLE XVII RECALL SEC. 1. Recall is the power of the members to remove an elective officer for violation of rules or confidence. SEC. 2. (a) An Advisory Board Secretary shall be elected at the beginning of every Advisory Board term, or when another Advisory Board Secretary has resigned, quit or is unable to perform the duties of the office. The Advisory Board Secretary is to be a non-voting member of the Advisory Board. The Advisory Board Secretary is to be chosen from USGenWeb Members who are not members of the Advisory Board. The Advisory Board Secretary shall keep minutes for all Advisory Board meetings, which will be posted to the National website. (b) Recall of an Advisory Board Member is initiated by delivering to the Advisory Board Secretary a petition alleging reason for recall. Reasons for recall are to be limited to: violation of bylaws, improper handling of information or legal/ethical violations. (c) A recall petition will consist of one or more e-mails containing the names and e-mail addresses of those in favor of recall. This petition must be verified to determine validity. (d) A petition to recall an Advisory Board Member (including the National Coordinator, who is also an Advisory Board Member) must be signed by voting members equal in number to at least 20 percent of the last vote for the office. Any Advisory Board Member may be recalled, but only by their own constituents. The Advisory Board Secretary shall maintain a continuous count of the petition signatures certified to that office, and deliver a report to the Advisory Board and inform the constituents in question if there are enough signatures to force a recall vote. SEC. 3. (a) An election to determine whether to recall an Advisory Board Member and, if appropriate, to elect a successor shall be called by the National Coordinator, or Election Committee Chairman if there is one at the time, and held not less than 30 days nor more than 50 days from the date of certification of sufficient signatures. If the National Coordinator is unable, and no Election Committee is seated at the time, the Advisory Board Secretary shall call for the election and insure all constituents of the Member subject to the recall action are notified. (b) In the event of a proposed recall action against an Advisory Board Member, nominations will be taken to immediately fill the position vacated if the recall vote is successful. The member being recalled is not eligible for this nomination. (c) If the simple majority vote of those voting on the question is to recall, the Member is removed and, if there is a candidate to replace the Member, the candidate who receives a plurality is the successor. If the recall action fails, the Advisory Board Member retains their position, and the election for a successor is declared null and void. (d) Votes in recall elections are subject to verification by either the Advisory Board Secretary or Election Committee, if there is one. SEC. 4. The Advisory Board Secretary shall provide for circulation, filing, and certification of petitions, nomination of candidates, and the recall election. SEC. 5. If recall of the National Coordinator is initiated, the recall duties of that office shall be performed by the Advisory Board Secretary or Election Committee Chairman, if there is one. SEC. 6. An Advisory Board Member who is not recalled shall not have another recall action initiated against the member until six months after the election. SEC. 7. Terms of elective offices provided for by this Article, commence immediately following the election, and shall last until the term of the recalled Member expires. SEC. 8. In the event of conflict between any Other Articles of the USGenWeb Bylaws and this Article, this Article shall take precedence. ___________________________________ --part1_be.49ef023.266805b1_boundary--

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Virginia (Ginger) Cisewski NW-Plains CC Rep --part1_7f.519a6a2.26680563_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <cjsnyder@midusa.net> Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za01.mail.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:04:22 -0400 Received: from mail.midusa.net (radius1.midusa.net [216.96.0.2]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:04:02 -0400 Received: from midusa.net (216096077003.midusa.net [216.96.77.3]) by mail.midusa.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA29958606; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:04:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3936A57C.B6D1064@midusa.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:03:41 -0500 From: Connie Snyder <cjsnyder@midusa.net> Organization: NEGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~negenweb/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: USGENWEB-ALL-L@rootsweb.com, tstowell@chattanooga.net, jzsed@slic.com, pamreid@home.com, hollyft@bright.net, gingerh@shawneelink.com, richpump@wf.net, TVick65536@aol.com, jfisher@ucla.edu, FEATHER2s@aol.com, MaggieOhio@columbus.rr.com, shari@klondyke.net, jpowelljr@gru.net, pettit@Adobe.COM, betsym@1starnet.com, gbmayfield@tyler.net, RootsLady@email.msn.com Subject: Re: Proposed States' Rights Amendment (2nd try) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't seen this come through yet, and since my computer has crashed several times today, I'm resending. --------------- The members of the NEGenWeb Project have voted to co-sponsor this amendment proposal. Connie Snyder State Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project ________________________________________________ **************************** BRIEF: All authority is vested at state (XXGenWeb) and local levels, including Special Projects; all grievances handled at XXGenWeb and local level only; prohibits national sanctions; does away with all national positions other than a national webmaster and national special project webmasters, each elected by the membership, and each with no authority other than website maintenance; all national list managers (State-Coord, USGW-CC-L, etc.) elected by subscribers; adds perpetual prohibition against commercial activity. **************************** PROPOSED AMENDMENT PREAMBLE [NEW] The USGenWeb Project (hereinafter "The Project") is an unincorporated not-for-profit association whose foundation is a network of freely-accessible, independent, not-for-profit genealogical and historical websites maintained by Local Coordinators and linked to appropriate not-for-profit State Project (XXGenWeb) websites and Special Projects, including the USGenWeb Archives Project (aka USGenWeb Digital Library aka USGenWeb Project Archives), USGenWeb Census Project and USGenWeb Tombstone Project, linked to a not-for-profit national website whose sole purpose is to serve as the hub of said network, including maintenance of national web pages, domain registrations and records of the association. Except where specifically prohibited by these Bylaws, by federal or state statutes, including the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America, or their own Articles (in the case of nonprofit public benefit corporations), all Local Projects, State Projects (XXGenWeb) and Special Projects such as the USGenWeb Archives Project (aka USGenWeb Digital Library and USGenWeb Project Archives); USGenWeb Census Project and USGenWeb Tombstone Project, shall be governed by the applicable rules of these bylaws, their respective XXGenWeb Projects, and maintained and administered at State or Local levels as deemed appropriate by each XXGenWeb Project. Except where specifically granted by these Bylaws or federal or state statutes, no national-level projects or positions shall have power or authority over state or local projects. Except where specifically permitted by these Bylaws, no local, state, special or national website, shall include any commercial use or activity. Where conflicts may exist between this Preamble and any Articles herein, this Preamble shall prevail. ARTICLE I. NAME [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE II. PURPOSE [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE III. STATUS AS AN ORGANIZATION [CHANGED] [OLD] The USGenWeb Project, as a group of volunteers participating in a not-for-profit organization, is considered to be an "Unincorporated Non-Profit Association." [NEW] The USGenWeb Project, as a group of volunteers participating in a not-for-profit organization, shall be an "Unincorporated Non-Profit Association," unto perpetuity. ARTICLE IV. MEMBERSHIP [CHANGED] Section 1. [OLD] The only requirement for membership in The USGenWeb Project is a desire to assist in gathering and disseminating genealogical and historical information for free online access by researchers. Section 1. [NEW] The only requirement for membership in The USGenWeb Project is to be a local coordinator or co-coordinator in an XXGenWeb Project. Local coordinators shall be defined as Local Project webmasters. Local co-coordinators shall be defined as local co-webmasters, and may include transcribers and other positions at the will of the XXGenWeb electorate. All memberships shall be voting memberships. Section 2. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE V. COMPOSITION OF ADVISORY BOARD [DELETED] ARTICLE V. NATIONAL WEBMASTERS [NEW] Section 1. The sole national-level positions shall be one webmaster each for The Project and each Special Project. Section 2. The sole qualifications for national webmasters shall be eligibility to vote in one or more XXGenWeb Projects and a knowledge of HTML code and FTP procedures. Section 3. The sole duties of national webmasters shall be to maintain applicable national web pages and domains, if any. No national webmaster shall have the right to add, remove or change links or web pages except at the express direction of a simple majority of members voting. Section 4. National webmasters shall be elected in open elections on XXGenWeb Mailing Lists by a cumulative simple majority of voting local coordinators. Section 5. Terms of office for national webmasters shall be at the will of the electorate. ARTICLE VI: DUTIES/QUALIFICATIONS OF ADVISORY BOARD [DELETED] ARTICLE VI: NATIONAL MAILING LISTS [NEW] Section 1. All national mailing lists shall be owned by The Project and its members, and be publicly-archived. Section 2. A national mailing list named State-Coord-L shall be maintained for XXGenWeb State Coordinators. Subscription to said list shall be limited to XXGenWeb State and Assistant State Coordinators and national webmasters. Said list shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of State Coordinators voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting by all eligible subscribers. Said list shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of State Coordinators voting openly on said list. The term of office of the List Manager shall be at the will of the electorate. Section 3. A national mailing list named USGW-CC-L shall be maintained for all members. Subscription to said list shall be limited to Local Coordinators and national webmasters. Said list shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of members voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting by all eligible subscribers. Said list shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of members voting openly on said list. The term of office of the List Manager shall be at the will of the electorate. Section 4. National mailing lists may be maintained by Special Projects for staff of said projects. Subscription to said lists shall be limited to staff and webmasters of each respective project. Said lists shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of eligible subscribers voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting, where applicable, by all eligible subscribers. Each of said lists shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of eligible subscribers voting openly on said list. The terms of office of the List Managers shall be at the will of the electorate. ARTICLE VII. ELECTION PROCEDURES [CHANGED] Sections 1-6 [DELETED] Section 1. [NEW] All national-level elections shall be conducted openly on applicable XXGenWeb, Special Project and State-Coord mailing lists. Section 2. [NEW] All national-level election results other than bylaws amendments shall be based on a simple majority of all voting members. Section 3. [NEW] All national-level election results shall be reported to all national-level mailing lists within 48 hours of the closing of the polls. Section 4. [NEW] The membership can call for an election at any time based on a simple majority vote of the members voting in each of five or more states. Said election must be conducted within thirty (30) days. ARTICLE VIII. ADVISORY BOARD PROCEDURES [DELETED] ARTICLE VIII. DOMAINS [NEW] The Project's national webmaster shall be responsibile for administering and maintaining the domains, usgenweb.com, usgenweb.net and usgenweb.org, over which The USGenWeb Project membership have control and for which the members are the official lessees. Said domains shall be registered under the name, USGenWeb Project, with the Administrative Contact information to be that of The Project's national webmaster and the Billing Contact the State-Coord List Manager. Should said domain registrations not be brought into conformance within 90 days following passage of this Article, new, appropriately-named domains shall be appropriately registered by the national webmaster and State-Coord-L List Manager and utilized until such time as registration of all of the above-named domains is in conformance, during which time period, the above-named domains shall serve solely as redirects to the new domains. ARTICLE IX. GUIDELINES/STANDARDS FOR WEBSITES/MEMBERS [CHANGED] Sections 1-2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3. [NEW] No sanctions shall be levied against any coordinator or project at other than at the appropriate XXGenWeb-level or lower. ARTICLE X. COPYRIGHT [CHANGED] Section 1. [NO CHANGE] Section 2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3. [OLD] In The USGenWeb Project, copyright to data contributed to any special projects resides with the contributor, who agrees that The USGenWeb Project, as a not-for-profit group, has permanent use of the data. The permanent use agreement is conditional upon the non-profit nature of The USGenWeb Project and will become null and void if The USGenWeb Project should ever cease to be non-profit. Section 3. [NEW] In The USGenWeb Project, copyright to data contributed to any special projects resides with the contributor, who agrees that The USGenWeb Project, as a not-for-profit group, has permanent use of the data. Section 4. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XI. LOCAL PROJECTS [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XII. STATE PROJECTS [CHANGED] Sections 1-8. [NO CHANGE] Section 9. [OLD] State Coordinators and Assistant State Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the Local Coordinators within the state. A quorum of 75% of the Local Coordinators shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 9. [NEW] State Coordinators and Assistant State Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a simple majority vote of the XXGenWeb Project's membership voting. A quorum of 75% of the Local Coordinators shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 10. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS [CHANGED] Section 1. [OLD] Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or organizations are encouraged. Section 1. [NEW] Special projects to promote the gathering of information in specialized areas shall be established by a simple majority of the members voting. A national-level webmaster shall be elected by the initial members of the Special Project to organize the project and enlist volunteers. Special Projects shall be for the collection or transcription of public domain or research documents and shall provide easily accessible websites for online research by the genealogical community. Special Projects shall be governed at state level by the appropriate individual XXGenWeb Projects. Section 2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3-6. [DELETED] ARTICLE XIV. GRIEVANCE PROCEDURES AND APPEALS PROCESS Sections 1-2. [DELETED] [NEW] All grievances and appeals shall be processed at XXGenWeb levels. ARTICLE XV. PARLIAMENTARY AUTHORITY [DELETED] ARTICLE XVI. AMENDMENT TO BYLAWS Section 1. [OLD] These Bylaws may be amended by the membership of The USGenWeb Project through a two-thirds (2/3) majority of those members participating during the voting period. Section 1. [NEW] These Bylaws may be amended by a two-thirds (2/3) cumulative vote of the membership voting openly on the respective applicable XXGenWeb mailing lists. Section 2. [OLD] Any state project may propose an amendment by sending their proposal to one or more of the Advisory board members representing their region and including the exact wording of the proposed amendment. Upon receipt of the proposed amendment, the Advisory Board representative(s) shall request the Webmaster to post the proposed change on the national website and the National Coordinator to post to the State-Coord-L List, and any other appropriate lists, for dissemination to the members. Section 2. [NEW] Any XXGenWeb Project may propose an amendment by a simple majority vote of those voting, followed by the submission of said proposed amendment to the State-Coord-L and USGW-CC-L Lists, including the exact wording of the proposed amendment. Upon receipt of the proposed amendment, the Webmaster shall post the proposed change on the national website and State Coordinators shall post to the XXGenWeb Mailing Lists. Section 3. [OLD] The proposed amendment, with the sponsor's name and date of posting, shall remain posted for a period of at least thirty (30) days prior to the annual voting period of July 1-July 31. Any proposed amendment shall require a minimum of five (5) states as co-sponsors to command that it be placed on the ballot. State projects wishing to co-sponsor the amendment shall notify the Advisory Board and make an announcement on the USGenWeb-All Mailing List. Section 3. [NEW] The proposed amendment, with the sponsor's name and date of posting, shall remain posted for a period of at least thirty (30) days. Should four (4) additional XXGenWeb Projects, by a simple majority of their respective members voting, also approve the proposed amendment during said time period, all remaining XXGenWeb Projects, within thirty (30) additional days thereafter, shall be required to conduct elections. Section 4. [DELETED] Section 5. [DELETED] Section 6. [DELETED] --part1_7f.519a6a2.26680563_boundary--

This is a good question since the Tombstone Project has never been a part of the Archives Project. While the two have always worked closely, they were separate Projects. I have never really viewed the Archives as a Project, per se anyway. To me, it is a Digital Library for storage purposes. I would like to understand this before I post the proposed amendment. Ginger wrote: > > Does this mean that the Archives would be absorbing > the Tombstone Project? > > Ginger > gingerh@shawneelink.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shari Handley (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>) > <shari@armada.net> > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:06 AM > Subject: [BOARD-L] Bylaws Amendment Proposal > > >Pursuant to USGenWeb bylaws Article XVI, Section 2, I'm submitting this and > >requesting that the proposed amendment be placed on the national web site > >by the webmaster, Pam Reid. (TIA, Pam) > > > > > >******************************************************** > >By a 2/3 majority vote of her coordinators (and a unanimous vote of those > >responding), MDGenWeb wishes to co-sponsor the following proposed amendment > >to the bylaws: > > > >======================================================== > >The proposal is as follows: > > > >Current Version: > > > >ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS > > > >Section 1. Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to > >promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator > >shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist > >volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant > >Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in > >case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, > >unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be > >repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an > >easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical > >community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, > >although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or > >organizations are encouraged. > > > >Section 2. The name of the special project shall be The USGenWeb ______ > >Project > > > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project, The USGenWeb > >Project, and The USGenWeb Tombstone Project shall each elect one Special > >Project Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project > >Advisory Board. > > > >Section 4. Project Coordinators shall be elected to those positions by the > >project staff. > > > >Section 5. Project Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 > >vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A quorum of > >75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote to be > >binding. > > > >Section 6. If a Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her duties, > >the Assistant Project Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until > >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of special > >projects with more than one Assistant Project Coordinator, they shall > >choose one among themselves to serve in the interim. > > > >** > > > >Proposed Version: > > > >Article XIII. THE ARCHIVES PROJECT > > > >Section 1. The USGenWeb Archives Project shall have a Coordinator and an > >Assistant Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge > >in case the Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless > >there are extenuating circumstances. The USGenWeb Archives(Digital > >Library) shall be a repository for public domain or research documents and > >shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the > >genealogical community. > > > >Section 2. The name of the project shall be The USGenWeb Archives Project. > > > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project shall elect > >one Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project > >Advisory Board. > > > >Section 4. The Archives Project Coordinator shall be elected by the project > >staff. The Coordinator in place at the time this section of the Bylaws is > >amended shall be exempt from election procedures, unless he/she is removed, > >resigns or is unable to perform his/her duties. > > > >Section 5. The Archives Project Coordinator is subject to possible removal > >by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A > >quorum of 75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote > >to be binding. > > > >Section 6. If the Archives Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her > >duties, the Assistant Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until > >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of more > >than one Assistant Coordinator, they shall choose among themselves to serve > >in the interim. > > > >** > > > >Other Proposed Changes: > > > >Article II. > >Section 2. Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb > >Archives Project" > > > >Article V. > >Change "one (1) representative each from The USGenWeb Archives Project, The > >USGenWeb Census Project, and the USGenWeb Tombstone Project," to "one (1) > >representative from The USGenWeb Archives Project," > > > >Article VI. > >Section 9. > >Change "and Special Project Representative" to "and Archives Project > >Representative" Change "with the Special Projects" to "with the Archives > >Project" > > > >Article VIII. > >Section 1. > >Change "Eight(8) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute a > >quorum." to "Seven(7) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute > >a quorum." > > > >Article XII. > >Section 2. > >Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb Archives Project" > > > > > >======================================================== > > > >MDGenWeb invites other state projects to join us in co-sponsoring this > >amendment, so that the USGenWeb Project's volunteers may have the > >opportunity to consider it in the upcoming elections. > > > >Carol Askey > >MDGenWeb State Coordinator > >askeycj@ix.netcom.com > > > >Shari Handley > >MDGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator > >shari@armada.net > > > > > > > >

This is a good question since the Tombstone Project has never been a part of the Archives Project. While the two have always worked closely, they were separate Projects. I have never really viewed the Archives as a Project, per se anyway. To me, it is a Digital Library for storage purposes. Ginger wrote: > > Does this mean that the Archives would be absorbing > the Tombstone Project? > > Ginger > gingerh@shawneelink.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shari Handley (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>) > <shari@armada.net> > To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:06 AM > Subject: [BOARD-L] Bylaws Amendment Proposal > > >Pursuant to USGenWeb bylaws Article XVI, Section 2, I'm submitting this and > >requesting that the proposed amendment be placed on the national web site > >by the webmaster, Pam Reid. (TIA, Pam) > > > > > >******************************************************** > >By a 2/3 majority vote of her coordinators (and a unanimous vote of those > >responding), MDGenWeb wishes to co-sponsor the following proposed amendment > >to the bylaws: > > > >======================================================== > >The proposal is as follows: > > > >Current Version: > > > >ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS > > > >Section 1. Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to > >promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator > >shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist > >volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant > >Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in > >case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, > >unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be > >repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an > >easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical > >community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, > >although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or > >organizations are encouraged. > > > >Section 2. The name of the special project shall be The USGenWeb ______ > >Project > > > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project, The USGenWeb > >Project, and The USGenWeb Tombstone Project shall each elect one Special > >Project Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project > >Advisory Board. > > > >Section 4. Project Coordinators shall be elected to those positions by the > >project staff. > > > >Section 5. Project Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 > >vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A quorum of > >75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote to be > >binding. > > > >Section 6. If a Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her duties, > >the Assistant Project Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until > >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of special > >projects with more than one Assistant Project Coordinator, they shall > >choose one among themselves to serve in the interim. > > > >** > > > >Proposed Version: > > > >Article XIII. THE ARCHIVES PROJECT > > > >Section 1. The USGenWeb Archives Project shall have a Coordinator and an > >Assistant Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge > >in case the Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless > >there are extenuating circumstances. The USGenWeb Archives(Digital > >Library) shall be a repository for public domain or research documents and > >shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the > >genealogical community. > > > >Section 2. The name of the project shall be The USGenWeb Archives Project. > > > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project shall elect > >one Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project > >Advisory Board. > > > >Section 4. The Archives Project Coordinator shall be elected by the project > >staff. The Coordinator in place at the time this section of the Bylaws is > >amended shall be exempt from election procedures, unless he/she is removed, > >resigns or is unable to perform his/her duties. > > > >Section 5. The Archives Project Coordinator is subject to possible removal > >by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A > >quorum of 75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote > >to be binding. > > > >Section 6. If the Archives Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her > >duties, the Assistant Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until > >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of more > >than one Assistant Coordinator, they shall choose among themselves to serve > >in the interim. > > > >** > > > >Other Proposed Changes: > > > >Article II. > >Section 2. Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb > >Archives Project" > > > >Article V. > >Change "one (1) representative each from The USGenWeb Archives Project, The > >USGenWeb Census Project, and the USGenWeb Tombstone Project," to "one (1) > >representative from The USGenWeb Archives Project," > > > >Article VI. > >Section 9. > >Change "and Special Project Representative" to "and Archives Project > >Representative" Change "with the Special Projects" to "with the Archives > >Project" > > > >Article VIII. > >Section 1. > >Change "Eight(8) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute a > >quorum." to "Seven(7) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute > >a quorum." > > > >Article XII. > >Section 2. > >Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb Archives Project" > > > > > >======================================================== > > > >MDGenWeb invites other state projects to join us in co-sponsoring this > >amendment, so that the USGenWeb Project's volunteers may have the > >opportunity to consider it in the upcoming elections. > > > >Carol Askey > >MDGenWeb State Coordinator > >askeycj@ix.netcom.com > > > >Shari Handley > >MDGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator > >shari@armada.net > > > > > > > >

Does this mean that the Archives would be absorbing the Tombstone Project? Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com -----Original Message----- From: Shari Handley (by way of Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net>) <shari@armada.net> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:06 AM Subject: [BOARD-L] Bylaws Amendment Proposal >Pursuant to USGenWeb bylaws Article XVI, Section 2, I'm submitting this and >requesting that the proposed amendment be placed on the national web site >by the webmaster, Pam Reid. (TIA, Pam) > > >******************************************************** >By a 2/3 majority vote of her coordinators (and a unanimous vote of those >responding), MDGenWeb wishes to co-sponsor the following proposed amendment >to the bylaws: > >======================================================== >The proposal is as follows: > >Current Version: > >ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS > >Section 1. Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to >promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator >shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist >volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant >Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in >case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, >unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be >repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an >easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical >community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, >although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or >organizations are encouraged. > >Section 2. The name of the special project shall be The USGenWeb ______ >Project > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project, The USGenWeb >Project, and The USGenWeb Tombstone Project shall each elect one Special >Project Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project >Advisory Board. > >Section 4. Project Coordinators shall be elected to those positions by the >project staff. > >Section 5. Project Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 >vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A quorum of >75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote to be >binding. > >Section 6. If a Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her duties, >the Assistant Project Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of special >projects with more than one Assistant Project Coordinator, they shall >choose one among themselves to serve in the interim. > >** > >Proposed Version: > >Article XIII. THE ARCHIVES PROJECT > >Section 1. The USGenWeb Archives Project shall have a Coordinator and an >Assistant Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge >in case the Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless >there are extenuating circumstances. The USGenWeb Archives(Digital >Library) shall be a repository for public domain or research documents and >shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the >genealogical community. > >Section 2. The name of the project shall be The USGenWeb Archives Project. > >Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project shall elect >one Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project >Advisory Board. > >Section 4. The Archives Project Coordinator shall be elected by the project >staff. The Coordinator in place at the time this section of the Bylaws is >amended shall be exempt from election procedures, unless he/she is removed, >resigns or is unable to perform his/her duties. > >Section 5. The Archives Project Coordinator is subject to possible removal >by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A >quorum of 75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote >to be binding. > >Section 6. If the Archives Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her >duties, the Assistant Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until >an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of more >than one Assistant Coordinator, they shall choose among themselves to serve >in the interim. > >** > >Other Proposed Changes: > >Article II. >Section 2. Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb >Archives Project" > >Article V. >Change "one (1) representative each from The USGenWeb Archives Project, The >USGenWeb Census Project, and the USGenWeb Tombstone Project," to "one (1) >representative from The USGenWeb Archives Project," > >Article VI. >Section 9. >Change "and Special Project Representative" to "and Archives Project >Representative" Change "with the Special Projects" to "with the Archives >Project" > >Article VIII. >Section 1. >Change "Eight(8) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute a >quorum." to "Seven(7) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute >a quorum." > >Article XII. >Section 2. >Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb Archives Project" > > >======================================================== > >MDGenWeb invites other state projects to join us in co-sponsoring this >amendment, so that the USGenWeb Project's volunteers may have the >opportunity to consider it in the upcoming elections. > >Carol Askey >MDGenWeb State Coordinator >askeycj@ix.netcom.com > >Shari Handley >MDGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator >shari@armada.net > > > >

My apologies to folks who might have received this previously. My email program seems to be messing up and this doesn't appear to have made it to Board-L on my previous attempts. Virginia (Ginger) Cisewski NW-Plains CC Rep - ------------------------------------- Subj: Proposed Bylaw Amendments Date: 05/31/2000 7:16:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: littlerip@proaxis.com (Jan Phillips) To: jfisher@ucla.edu, FEATHER2s@aol.com, MaggieOhio@columbus.rr.com ORGenWeb would like to co-sponsor this proposed amendment and also the States Right Amendment proposed. Jan Phillips littlerip@proaxis.com State Coordinator, ORGenWeb Project 31 May 2000 - 4:15 p.m. PDT ____________________________________ The USGenWeb Project Bylaws Proposed States' Rights Amendment WHEREAS the USGenWeb Project's survival as a nonprofit organization is endangered by increases in national authority that exceed both the original intent and language of the Project's Bylaws, including, but not limited to, the removal of an entire national Special Project (Census); threats of removal of more than one State Project (including OHGenWeb and NEGenWeb); copyright violations; commercial activities; potential loss of permanent use submission rights; and the passage of a national policy prohibiting protests of national actions under penalty of loss of voting rights et al; and WHEREAS State and Local Projects have a proven history of ability, stability, experience and expertise, a highly-demonstrated willingness to abide by said Bylaws; and a strong commitment to non-commercialism; BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED that the XXGenWeb Project sponsors the following proposed amendment to said Bylaws for the specific purpose of a reduction in national scope and authority, a corresponding increase in state and local scope and authority; the preservation of the Project's nonprofit status; and the protection of submissions entrusted to the Project: BRIEF* All authority is vested at state (XXGenWeb) and local levels, including Special Projects; all grievances handled at XXGenWeb and local level only; prohibits national sanctions; does away with all national positions other than a national webmaster and national special project webmasters, each elected by the membership, and each with no authority other than website maintenance; all national list managers (State-Coord, USGW-CC-L, etc.) elected by subscribers; adds perpetual prohibition against commercial activity. *See also FAQ PROPOSED AMENDMENT PREAMBLE [NEW] The USGenWeb Project (hereinafter "The Project") is an unincorporated not-for-profit association whose foundation is a network of freely-accessible, independent, not-for-profit genealogical and historical websites maintained by Local Coordinators and linked to appropriate not-for-profit State Project (XXGenWeb) websites and Special Projects, including the USGenWeb Archives Project (aka USGenWeb Digital Library aka USGenWeb Project Archives), USGenWeb Census Project and USGenWeb Tombstone Project, linked to a not-for-profit national website whose sole purpose is to serve as the hub of said network, including maintenance of national web pages, domain registrations and records of the association. Except where specifically prohibited by these Bylaws, by federal or state statutes, including the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America, or their own Articles (in the case of nonprofit public benefit corporations), all Local Projects, State Projects (XXGenWeb) and Special Projects such as the USGenWeb Archives Project (aka USGenWeb Digital Library and USGenWeb Project Archives); USGenWeb Census Project and USGenWeb Tombstone Project, shall be governed by the applicable rules of these bylaws, their respective XXGenWeb Projects, and maintained and administered at State or Local levels as deemed appropriate by each XXGenWeb Project. Except where specifically granted by these Bylaws or federal or state statutes, no national-level projects or positions shall have power or authority over state or local projects. Except where specifically permitted by these Bylaws, no local, state, special or national website, shall include any commercial use or activity. Where conflicts may exist between this Preamble and any Articles herein, this Preamble shall prevail. ARTICLE I. NAME [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE II. PURPOSE [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE III. STATUS AS AN ORGANIZATION [CHANGED] [OLD] The USGenWeb Project, as a group of volunteers participating in a not-for-profit organization, is considered to be an "Unincorporated Non-Profit Association." [NEW] The USGenWeb Project, as a group of volunteers participating in a not-for-profit organization, shall be an "Unincorporated Non-Profit Association," unto perpetuity. ARTICLE IV. MEMBERSHIP [CHANGED] Section 1. [OLD] The only requirement for membership in The USGenWeb Project is a desire to assist in gathering and disseminating genealogical and historical information for free online access by researchers. Section 1. [NEW] The only requirement for membership in The USGenWeb Project is to be a local coordinator or co-coordinator in an XXGenWeb Project. Local coordinators shall be defined as Local Project webmasters. Local co-coordinators shall be defined as local co-webmasters, and may include transcribers and other positions at the will of the XXGenWeb electorate. All memberships shall be voting memberships. Section 2. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE V. COMPOSITION OF ADVISORY BOARD [DELETED] ARTICLE V. NATIONAL WEBMASTERS [NEW] Section 1. The sole national-level positions shall be one webmaster each for The Project and each Special Project. Section 2. The sole qualifications for national webmasters shall be eligibility to vote in one or more XXGenWeb Projects and a knowledge of HTML code and FTP procedures. Section 3. The sole duties of national webmasters shall be to maintain applicable national web pages and domains, if any. No national webmaster shall have the right to add, remove or change links or web pages except at the express direction of a simple majority of members voting. Section 4. National webmasters shall be elected in open elections on XXGenWeb Mailing Lists by a cumulative simple majority of voting local coordinators. Section 5. Terms of office for national webmasters shall be at the will of the electorate. ARTICLE VI: DUTIES/QUALIFICATIONS OF ADVISORY BOARD [DELETED] ARTICLE VI: NATIONAL MAILING LISTS [NEW] Section 1. All national mailing lists shall be owned by The Project and its members, and be publicly-archived. Section 2. A national mailing list named State-Coord-L shall be maintained for XXGenWeb State Coordinators. Subscription to said list shall be limited to XXGenWeb State and Assistant State Coordinators and national webmasters. Said list shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of State Coordinators voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting by all eligible subscribers. Said list shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of State Coordinators voting openly on said list. The term of office of the List Manager shall be at the will of the electorate. Section 3. A national mailing list named USGW-CC-L shall be maintained for all members. Subscription to said list shall be limited to Local Coordinators and national webmasters. Said list shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of members voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting by all eligible subscribers. Said list shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of members voting openly on said list. The term of office of the List Manager shall be at the will of the electorate. Section 4. National mailing lists may be maintained by Special Projects for staff of said projects. Subscription to said lists shall be limited to staff and webmasters of each respective project. Said lists shall be located on the server of choice of a simple majority of eligible subscribers voting openly on said list, except that the chosen server must permit subscription and posting, where applicable, by all eligible subscribers. Each of said lists shall be managed by a List Manager elected by a simple majority of eligible subscribers voting openly on said list. The terms of office of the List Managers shall be at the will of the electorate. ARTICLE VII. ELECTION PROCEDURES [CHANGED] Sections 1-6 [DELETED] Section 1. [NEW] All national-level elections shall be conducted openly on applicable XXGenWeb, Special Project and State-Coord mailing lists. Section 2. [NEW] All national-level election results other than bylaws amendments shall be based on a simple majority of all voting members. Section 3. [NEW] All national-level election results shall be reported to all national-level mailing lists within 48 hours of the closing of the polls. Section 4. [NEW] The membership can call for an election at any time based on a simple majority vote of the members voting in each of five or more states. Said election must be conducted within thirty (30) days. ARTICLE VIII. ADVISORY BOARD PROCEDURES [DELETED] ARTICLE VIII. DOMAINS [NEW] The Project's national webmaster shall be responsibile for administering and maintaining the domains, usgenweb.com, usgenweb.net and usgenweb.org, over which The USGenWeb Project membership have control and for which the members are the official lessees. Said domains shall be registered under the name, USGenWeb Project, with the Administrative Contact information to be that of The Project's national webmaster and the Billing Contact the State-Coord List Manager. Should said domain registrations not be brought into conformance within 90 days following passage of this Article, new, appropriately-named domains shall be appropriately registered by the national webmaster and State-Coord-L List Manager and utilized until such time as registration of all of the above-named domains is in conformance, during which time period, the above-named domains shall serve solely as redirects to the new domains. ARTICLE IX. GUIDELINES/STANDARDS FOR WEBSITES/MEMBERS [CHANGED] Sections 1-2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3. [NEW] No sanctions shall be levied against any coordinator or project at other than at the appropriate XXGenWeb-level or lower. ARTICLE X. COPYRIGHT [CHANGED] Section 1. [NO CHANGE] Section 2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3. [OLD] In The USGenWeb Project, copyright to data contributed to any special projects resides with the contributor, who agrees that The USGenWeb Project, as a not-for-profit group, has permanent use of the data. The permanent use agreement is conditional upon the non-profit nature of The USGenWeb Project and will become null and void if The USGenWeb Project should ever cease to be non-profit. Section 3. [NEW] In The USGenWeb Project, copyright to data contributed to any special projects resides with the contributor, who agrees that The USGenWeb Project, as a not-for-profit group, has permanent use of the data. Section 4. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XI. LOCAL PROJECTS [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XII. STATE PROJECTS [CHANGED] Sections 1-8. [NO CHANGE] Section 9. [OLD] State Coordinators and Assistant State Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the Local Coordinators within the state. A quorum of 75% of the Local Coordinators shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 9. [NEW] State Coordinators and Assistant State Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a simple majority vote of the XXGenWeb Project's membership voting. A quorum of 75% of the Local Coordinators shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 10. [NO CHANGE] ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS [CHANGED] Section 1. [OLD] Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or organizations are encouraged. Section 1. [NEW] Special projects to promote the gathering of information in specialized areas shall be established by a simple majority of the members voting. A national-level webmaster shall be elected by the initial members of the Special Project to organize the project and enlist volunteers. Special Projects shall be for the collection or transcription of public domain or research documents and shall provide easily accessible websites for online research by the genealogical community. Special Projects shall be governed at state level by the appropriate individual XXGenWeb Projects. Section 2. [NO CHANGE] Section 3-6. [DELETED] ARTICLE XIV. GRIEVANCE PROCEDURES AND APPEALS PROCESS Sections 1-2. [DELETED] [NEW] All grievances and appeals shall be processed at XXGenWeb levels. ARTICLE XV. PARLIAMENTARY AUTHORITY [DELETED] ARTICLE XVI. AMENDMENT TO BYLAWS Section 1. [OLD] These Bylaws may be amended by the membership of The USGenWeb Project through a two-thirds (2/3) majority of those members participating during the voting period. Section 1. [NEW] These Bylaws may be amended by a two-thirds (2/3) cumulative vote of the membership voting openly on the respective applicable XXGenWeb mailing lists. Section 2. [OLD] Any state project may propose an amendment by sending their proposal to one or more of the Advisory board members representing their region and including the exact wording of the proposed amendment. Upon receipt of the proposed amendment, the Advisory Board representative(s) shall request the Webmaster to post the proposed change on the national website and the National Coordinator to post to the State-Coord-L List, and any other appropriate lists, for dissemination to the members. Section 2. [NEW] Any XXGenWeb Project may propose an amendment by a simple majority vote of those voting, followed by the submission of said proposed amendment to the State-Coord-L and USGW-CC-L Lists, including the exact wording of the proposed amendment. Upon receipt of the proposed amendment, the Webmaster shall post the proposed change on the national website and State Coordinators shall post to the XXGenWeb Mailing Lists. Section 3. [OLD] The proposed amendment, with the sponsor's name and date of posting, shall remain posted for a period of at least thirty (30) days prior to the annual voting period of July 1-July 31. Any proposed amendment shall require a minimum of five (5) states as co-sponsors to command that it be placed on the ballot. State projects wishing to co-sponsor the amendment shall notify the Advisory Board and make an announcement on the USGenWeb-All Mailing List. Section 3. [NEW] The proposed amendment, with the sponsor's name and date of posting, shall remain posted for a period of at least thirty (30) days. Should four (4) additional XXGenWeb Projects, by a simple majority of their respective members voting, also approve the proposed amendment during said time period, all remaining XXGenWeb Projects, within thirty (30) additional days thereafter, shall be required to conduct elections. Section 4. [DELETED] Section 5. [DELETED] Section 6. [DELETED] Reference: Original USGenWeb Project Bylaws Note: Should any XXGenWeb Project pass said proposed amendment prior to midnight in any time zone on May 31, 2000, said proposed amendment must be forwarded to the appropriate Advisory Board Coordinator Representatives in accordance with the current bylaws. A minimum of four additional states are required to co-sponsor said proposed amendment prior to July 1, 2000 for it to be placed on the ballot of that date.

Pursuant to USGenWeb bylaws Article XVI, Section 2, I'm submitting this and requesting that the proposed amendment be placed on the national web site by the webmaster, Pam Reid. (TIA, Pam) ******************************************************** By a 2/3 majority vote of her coordinators (and a unanimous vote of those responding), MDGenWeb wishes to co-sponsor the following proposed amendment to the bylaws: ======================================================== The proposal is as follows: Current Version: ARTICLE XIII. SPECIAL PROJECTS Section 1. Special projects shall be established by The USGenWeb Project to promote the gathering of information in specialized areas. A coordinator shall be appointed by the Advisory Board to organize the project and enlist volunteers. In addition, each special project shall have an Assistant Project Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in case the Project Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless there are extenuating circumstances. Special projects shall be repositories for public domain or research documents and shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical community. A collection of links does not constitute a special project, although links to appropriate websites maintained by other individuals or organizations are encouraged. Section 2. The name of the special project shall be The USGenWeb ______ Project Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project, The USGenWeb Project, and The USGenWeb Tombstone Project shall each elect one Special Project Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project Advisory Board. Section 4. Project Coordinators shall be elected to those positions by the project staff. Section 5. Project Coordinators are subject to possible removal by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A quorum of 75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 6. If a Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her duties, the Assistant Project Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of special projects with more than one Assistant Project Coordinator, they shall choose one among themselves to serve in the interim. ** Proposed Version: Article XIII. THE ARCHIVES PROJECT Section 1. The USGenWeb Archives Project shall have a Coordinator and an Assistant Coordinator or other support team in place that can take charge in case the Coordinator becomes unavailable for a period of 30 days, unless there are extenuating circumstances. The USGenWeb Archives(Digital Library) shall be a repository for public domain or research documents and shall provide an easily accessible website for online research by the genealogical community. Section 2. The name of the project shall be The USGenWeb Archives Project. Section 3. The staff members of The USGenWeb Archives Project shall elect one Representative to serve as a voting member of The USGenWeb Project Advisory Board. Section 4. The Archives Project Coordinator shall be elected by the project staff. The Coordinator in place at the time this section of the Bylaws is amended shall be exempt from election procedures, unless he/she is removed, resigns or is unable to perform his/her duties. Section 5. The Archives Project Coordinator is subject to possible removal by a 2/3 vote of the Advisory Board and a 2/3 vote of the project staff. A quorum of 75% of the project staff shall participate in order for the vote to be binding. Section 6. If the Archives Project Coordinator is unable to perform his/her duties, the Assistant Coordinator, or other support team, shall serve until an election can take place among the project staff. In the case of more than one Assistant Coordinator, they shall choose among themselves to serve in the interim. ** Other Proposed Changes: Article II. Section 2. Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb Archives Project" Article V. Change "one (1) representative each from The USGenWeb Archives Project, The USGenWeb Census Project, and the USGenWeb Tombstone Project," to "one (1) representative from The USGenWeb Archives Project," Article VI. Section 9. Change "and Special Project Representative" to "and Archives Project Representative" Change "with the Special Projects" to "with the Archives Project" Article VIII. Section 1. Change "Eight(8) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute a quorum." to "Seven(7) voting members of the Advisory Board shall constitute a quorum." Article XII. Section 2. Change "The USGenWeb Project Archives" to "The USGenWeb Archives Project" ======================================================== MDGenWeb invites other state projects to join us in co-sponsoring this amendment, so that the USGenWeb Project's volunteers may have the opportunity to consider it in the upcoming elections. Carol Askey MDGenWeb State Coordinator askeycj@ix.netcom.com Shari Handley MDGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator shari@armada.net

At 08:59 AM 4/30/00 -0700, Joy wrote: >I would like to know who authorized Ron Eason to have write access to the >national web site. I would also like to know if he had write access to only >one directory or the entire site. > Joy, I can not answer your first question. On the second one - he and staff? ONLY had write access to usgw/census - ONLY. The webmistress and I had write access to all of the Other directories. Tim

I agree Jim. It has a lot of merit and makes good sense. BTW: If it hadn't been forwarded by morning I was planning to do it myself. <g> Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Powell Jr <jpowelljr@gru.net> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:40 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] Second Proposal re Special Projects >I am forwarding this to Board-L although I have been warned not to >forward messages to that list. I will not be intimidated. I think >Ellen's proposal has merit. At the very least maybe it will start some >meaningful discussion. > >Jim >********** >TO: Jim Powell and Teri Pettit, SE/MA County Coordinator Representatives > Linda Mason, MS SC > > >As my SE/MA representatives, I am submitting this note in hopes that >either >or both will consider forwarding it to the Board-L. I would ask that, if >submitted, the note be posted in it's entirety. > >I am also requesting that Linda Mason, MS SC, forward a copy to the SC >List. > >Thank you for your consideration. > >Ellen Pack >Adams Co, MSGenWeb CC >Wilkinson Co, MSGenWeb CC >Early SW MS Territory, MSGenWeb CC >Greene Co, TNGenWeb ACC > >------------- > >To the USGW Advisory Board Members - > >Since the AB apparently chose not to consider or implement my earlier >proposal regarding placing the question of the Archives before a >committee, >and ultimately the USGW Members, and which received wide favorable >attention from the general membership (witness my mailbox), and since >the >situation has deteriorated further over the past few days, I beg your >indulgence in allowing me to submit a second proposal. > >I'm am still optimistic (though confidence is waning) that there are >enough >good people out there who will refrain from spending hours and hours >picking apart every word in an attempt to find an excuse as to why this >or >that can't be done. There are enough people who understand that they >are >not the only ones who can properly and effectively maintain the >Archives, >and who will sincerely TRY to do something right, and in the best >interests >of the project, so that this horrendous problem can be resolved once and >for all. > >--------- > >Proposal II > > >Please carefully read the entire proposal before forming an opinion. >This >proposal is not designed to end the Archives, but to salvage it, dust it >off, and give it fresh life. > >Simply put, it is time for the Archives to be completely dismantled on a >national level, and turned over to the individual states. > >One of the most potent arguments in favor of a breakup lies within the >history of individual state projects, as opposed to the history of the >Archives. > >There have been sporadic (and sometimes very serious) problems within >several states. However, those problems were predominately restricted >to >the states in question. They were eventually resolved within the states >themselves, and in accordance with USGW By-Laws. Residual problems are >few, and confined. Today, the states reside side-by-side, sometimes >disagreeing, but respectful of one another. The same thing can hardly >be >said of the Special Projects in this endless battle. > >The Special Projects must take a lesson from the States. I implore the >AB >to seriously consider drawing and placing before the membership an >emergency amendment consisting of the following points: > > 1. Removal of the Special Projects, USGW Archives, Census Project, >Census >Archives Project, Tombstone Project, et al, whatever the name, as >national >entities > > 2. Formation of State Archives Projects [XXGenWeb State Archives >Project] >that would fall under the direct auspices, responsibility, and control >of >each appropriate state, as opposed to any national level person(s) or >entity. Each State Archives Project would have the responsibility of >recruiting it's own transcribers and material, and of uploading and >maintaining all archived files pertinent to it's own state, and to none >other. > > 3. Formation of one USGW General Archives Project to procure, >transcribe, >upload and maintain general non state-specific files ONLY. Those files >would cover such things as general histories, migratory patterns and >trails, territorial information, etc. Material relative to individual >states would not be allowed to be placed in the General Archives, and >must >be referred to the appropriate state Archives. Whole scale maintenance >of >duplicate files should be deemed unnecessary and >inappropriate. Duplication of files should only be considered in the >instances of material covering major boundary changes, and the like. > > 4. Continuity and quality of files and uploads would be preserved via >clearly defined policy and procedure specifications re uploading and >copyright disclaimer/info, as outlined within the By-Laws amendment. > >[For the purposes of this note, consider the proposed USGW General >Archives >as simply another (though unnamed) state, unless otherwise specified.] > > 5. Each state would be granted the right to name it's State Archive >Coordinator, and indeed the number of coordinators and/or State Archive >File Managers as befits the individual needs and structure of that >state. State Archive Coordinators would be named via either a state >election or appointment by the SC, in accordance with individual state >procedure. Each State Archive Coordinator would have responsibility >and >authority to recruit individual State File Managers on an as-needed >basis. > > 6. In the case of the General USGW Archives, a General USGW Archives >Coordinator would be appointed by the AB, for a limited term - suggest >no >more than one year. Thereafter, the General USGW Archives Coordinator >would be elected by it's own File Managers for two-year terms. The >General >USGW Archives would come directly under the responsibility and control >of >the AB which, in turn, is answerable to the states and to the >electorate. > > 7. All files would be uploaded to and maintained on one USGW Archives >server > > 8. No person or persons, on any level, will be considered overall SP >or >Archives Coordinator, or overall coordinator of any fraction of the >Archives including census records, cemetery records, etc. > > 9. No person or persons other than the appropriate SC, State Archives >Coordinator and/or assigned State File Managers will upload, copy, >alter, >or remove any file. > > 10. Each state should have it's own password to the appropriate >directory. Each SC would have access to it's State Archives password, >or >in the case of the USGW General Archives, the AB Secretary would be >charged >with retaining the password which would be passed on to the AB or NC >only >after a motion to do so has been legally entered and passed by the AB, >and >not at the discretion or demand of any one individual. The General >Archives password, if used under an AB motion, will be changed, after >the >specific motion has been carried out, and once again retained by the >Board >Secretary. > > 11. No person or persons other than the appropriate SC, or the AB >acting >on a legally submitted and passed motion, will be authorized to fire a >State Archives Coordinator, change a password, alter "write" privileges, >directory structure, upload, delete, or alter any archived files. > > 12. An Archives server change would require a special proposition >presented by the AB, voted upon and passed by the general membership in >either a special or general election. > > 13. The AB would have the responsibility of maintaining a USGW >Archives >TOC as part of the National pages. Links should point to the USGW Index >page, each state Archives TOC, the Archives Search pages, and to a >GENERAL >information page that, among other things, refers potential volunteers >to >the appropriate state. The USGW Archives TOC, and any collateral pages, >must bear USGW official logo. > > 14. Each state would have the responsibility of maintaining it's >individual State Archives TOC, with a link to the USGW Archives TOC, the >Archives search page, and to the state index page. Layout and design of >that page would be determined by the State Archive Coordinator, but each >State Archives TOC must bear the USGW logo, and the state logo if >individual state regulations so require. > > 15. Each state would have the responsibility of insuring that no >Archives >copyright violations occurred, just like they do now relative to the >counties. Pre-existing copyright violation allegations should be >addressed >as soon as possible after acquisition of files currently residing in the >Archives or Census project (although I believe most of those allegations >would evaporate once the breakup occurred.) Copyright >allegations/infringements should be dealt with swiftly, firmly, and >appropriately on a case-to-case basis within each state responsible for >the >file(s) in question. > > 16. State participation in the State Archives Project would be >mandatory, >just as queries, and pertinent logo and links are mandatory, but would >*not* preclude a state from continuing with or putting in place it's own >state archives, if desired. > >I would also strongly urge the AB to submit a second emergency amendment >to >the effect that any national level action by the AB or the NC be allowed >ONLY upon a legally presented and passed AB motion, and not by arbitrary >decision by any one person, NC included. If a picture needs to be >drawn, >then draw it. >------------- > >I believe I have given the AB more than enough food for thought, as well >as >an outstanding foundation upon which an effective, fair, and permanent >resolution can be constructed. > >The States and CCs have a proven track record, and can handle things >quite >nicely. Let them. > >Permission is hereby granted to forward this note to any USGW member, >and >to post to any USGW List. > > >Respectfully, >Ellen Pack > >Adams Co, MSGenWeb CC >Wilkinson Co, MSGenWeb CC >Early SW MS Territory, MSGenWeb CC >Greene Co, TNGenWeb ACC > >

I am forwarding this to Board-L although I have been warned not to forward messages to that list. I will not be intimidated. I think Ellen's proposal has merit. At the very least maybe it will start some meaningful discussion. Jim ********** TO: Jim Powell and Teri Pettit, SE/MA County Coordinator Representatives Linda Mason, MS SC As my SE/MA representatives, I am submitting this note in hopes that either or both will consider forwarding it to the Board-L. I would ask that, if submitted, the note be posted in it's entirety. I am also requesting that Linda Mason, MS SC, forward a copy to the SC List. Thank you for your consideration. Ellen Pack Adams Co, MSGenWeb CC Wilkinson Co, MSGenWeb CC Early SW MS Territory, MSGenWeb CC Greene Co, TNGenWeb ACC ------------- To the USGW Advisory Board Members - Since the AB apparently chose not to consider or implement my earlier proposal regarding placing the question of the Archives before a committee, and ultimately the USGW Members, and which received wide favorable attention from the general membership (witness my mailbox), and since the situation has deteriorated further over the past few days, I beg your indulgence in allowing me to submit a second proposal. I'm am still optimistic (though confidence is waning) that there are enough good people out there who will refrain from spending hours and hours picking apart every word in an attempt to find an excuse as to why this or that can't be done. There are enough people who understand that they are not the only ones who can properly and effectively maintain the Archives, and who will sincerely TRY to do something right, and in the best interests of the project, so that this horrendous problem can be resolved once and for all. --------- Proposal II Please carefully read the entire proposal before forming an opinion. This proposal is not designed to end the Archives, but to salvage it, dust it off, and give it fresh life. Simply put, it is time for the Archives to be completely dismantled on a national level, and turned over to the individual states. One of the most potent arguments in favor of a breakup lies within the history of individual state projects, as opposed to the history of the Archives. There have been sporadic (and sometimes very serious) problems within several states. However, those problems were predominately restricted to the states in question. They were eventually resolved within the states themselves, and in accordance with USGW By-Laws. Residual problems are few, and confined. Today, the states reside side-by-side, sometimes disagreeing, but respectful of one another. The same thing can hardly be said of the Special Projects in this endless battle. The Special Projects must take a lesson from the States. I implore the AB to seriously consider drawing and placing before the membership an emergency amendment consisting of the following points: 1. Removal of the Special Projects, USGW Archives, Census Project, Census Archives Project, Tombstone Project, et al, whatever the name, as national entities 2. Formation of State Archives Projects [XXGenWeb State Archives Project] that would fall under the direct auspices, responsibility, and control of each appropriate state, as opposed to any national level person(s) or entity. Each State Archives Project would have the responsibility of recruiting it's own transcribers and material, and of uploading and maintaining all archived files pertinent to it's own state, and to none other. 3. Formation of one USGW General Archives Project to procure, transcribe, upload and maintain general non state-specific files ONLY. Those files would cover such things as general histories, migratory patterns and trails, territorial information, etc. Material relative to individual states would not be allowed to be placed in the General Archives, and must be referred to the appropriate state Archives. Whole scale maintenance of duplicate files should be deemed unnecessary and inappropriate. Duplication of files should only be considered in the instances of material covering major boundary changes, and the like. 4. Continuity and quality of files and uploads would be preserved via clearly defined policy and procedure specifications re uploading and copyright disclaimer/info, as outlined within the By-Laws amendment. [For the purposes of this note, consider the proposed USGW General Archives as simply another (though unnamed) state, unless otherwise specified.] 5. Each state would be granted the right to name it's State Archive Coordinator, and indeed the number of coordinators and/or State Archive File Managers as befits the individual needs and structure of that state. State Archive Coordinators would be named via either a state election or appointment by the SC, in accordance with individual state procedure. Each State Archive Coordinator would have responsibility and authority to recruit individual State File Managers on an as-needed basis. 6. In the case of the General USGW Archives, a General USGW Archives Coordinator would be appointed by the AB, for a limited term - suggest no more than one year. Thereafter, the General USGW Archives Coordinator would be elected by it's own File Managers for two-year terms. The General USGW Archives would come directly under the responsibility and control of the AB which, in turn, is answerable to the states and to the electorate. 7. All files would be uploaded to and maintained on one USGW Archives server 8. No person or persons, on any level, will be considered overall SP or Archives Coordinator, or overall coordinator of any fraction of the Archives including census records, cemetery records, etc. 9. No person or persons other than the appropriate SC, State Archives Coordinator and/or assigned State File Managers will upload, copy, alter, or remove any file. 10. Each state should have it's own password to the appropriate directory. Each SC would have access to it's State Archives password, or in the case of the USGW General Archives, the AB Secretary would be charged with retaining the password which would be passed on to the AB or NC only after a motion to do so has been legally entered and passed by the AB, and not at the discretion or demand of any one individual. The General Archives password, if used under an AB motion, will be changed, after the specific motion has been carried out, and once again retained by the Board Secretary. 11. No person or persons other than the appropriate SC, or the AB acting on a legally submitted and passed motion, will be authorized to fire a State Archives Coordinator, change a password, alter "write" privileges, directory structure, upload, delete, or alter any archived files. 12. An Archives server change would require a special proposition presented by the AB, voted upon and passed by the general membership in either a special or general election. 13. The AB would have the responsibility of maintaining a USGW Archives TOC as part of the National pages. Links should point to the USGW Index page, each state Archives TOC, the Archives Search pages, and to a GENERAL information page that, among other things, refers potential volunteers to the appropriate state. The USGW Archives TOC, and any collateral pages, must bear USGW official logo. 14. Each state would have the responsibility of maintaining it's individual State Archives TOC, with a link to the USGW Archives TOC, the Archives search page, and to the state index page. Layout and design of that page would be determined by the State Archive Coordinator, but each State Archives TOC must bear the USGW logo, and the state logo if individual state regulations so require. 15. Each state would have the responsibility of insuring that no Archives copyright violations occurred, just like they do now relative to the counties. Pre-existing copyright violation allegations should be addressed as soon as possible after acquisition of files currently residing in the Archives or Census project (although I believe most of those allegations would evaporate once the breakup occurred.) Copyright allegations/infringements should be dealt with swiftly, firmly, and appropriately on a case-to-case basis within each state responsible for the file(s) in question. 16. State participation in the State Archives Project would be mandatory, just as queries, and pertinent logo and links are mandatory, but would *not* preclude a state from continuing with or putting in place it's own state archives, if desired. I would also strongly urge the AB to submit a second emergency amendment to the effect that any national level action by the AB or the NC be allowed ONLY upon a legally presented and passed AB motion, and not by arbitrary decision by any one person, NC included. If a picture needs to be drawn, then draw it. ------------- I believe I have given the AB more than enough food for thought, as well as an outstanding foundation upon which an effective, fair, and permanent resolution can be constructed. The States and CCs have a proven track record, and can handle things quite nicely. Let them. Permission is hereby granted to forward this note to any USGW member, and to post to any USGW List. Respectfully, Ellen Pack Adams Co, MSGenWeb CC Wilkinson Co, MSGenWeb CC Early SW MS Territory, MSGenWeb CC Greene Co, TNGenWeb ACC

I think you all got a copy of my reply on this to the other message, but just in case, I will cut and copy it here for everyone's reading enjoyment! "If you are referring to the Census Directory that exists in the USGW National Directory, that was created by Kay Mason eons ago. She was asked to move everything out of that directory long ago. The directory still exists and every time I upload, I make a mental note to bring it up to Tim that we should delete it. But, mental notes don't work well for me <grin>. I hadn't actually opened the directory to see if there is anything left in it, but I was going on the assumption - dangerous practice) that everything had been moved. I just checked and there are a lot of files still there including a variety of sub-directories for states, SKResources, Proofs, and more. I check the States subdirectory and found it FULL of files!!!!! It was my understanding that Tim and I were the only ones with passwords to the USGW area, so it never occured to me that anyone could be uploading to that directory. If they are, they shouldn't be. I agree with Joy - if someone has that password, we need to have the password changed. But, I personally won't do anything about deleting the directory until we have resolved this. I would certainly not want this info lost if this is the only place it exists. But, my BIG question is, why is it there now?" Joy Fisher wrote: > > Pam: > > The directory called "/census" in the national web site's main directory is > the directory Ron has accused Tim of "locking him out of". > > I have been unable to find any record of Board action to authorize anyone > to have write permission to the national web site directories. > > At 01:38 PM 4/30/00 -0400, Pam Reid wrote: > >When did this happen and what has he done? > > > >Joy Fisher wrote: > > > > > > I would like to know who authorized Ron Eason to have write access to the > > > national web site. I would also like to know if he had write access to only > > > one directory or the entire site.

Pam: The directory called "/census" in the national web site's main directory is the directory Ron has accused Tim of "locking him out of". I have been unable to find any record of Board action to authorize anyone to have write permission to the national web site directories. At 01:38 PM 4/30/00 -0400, Pam Reid wrote: >When did this happen and what has he done? > >Joy Fisher wrote: > > > > I would like to know who authorized Ron Eason to have write access to the > > national web site. I would also like to know if he had write access to only > > one directory or the entire site.

When did this happen and what has he done? Joy Fisher wrote: > > I would like to know who authorized Ron Eason to have write access to the > national web site. I would also like to know if he had write access to only > one directory or the entire site.

At 09:44 AM 4/30/00 -0500, Ginger wrote: > >No, it is not the same, the transcribers (and proofreaders for that matter) > >have not had their names erased from their transcriptions. I am certainly > >open to a discussion of better, more accurate, less misleading phrasing of > >the Archives statement added to the files but it is not at all the same > >thing as erasure of a person. > >Copyright violation is copyright violation. For that matter, the instance >demonstrated this morning of a change to the West Virginia >state page has nothing to do with an archives statement. I seriously doubt that anyone purposefully changed that single page. There is no rhyme or reason to it as an intentional action. > >How about we ignore *their* issue for well over a year as that seems to be > >the way of things. > >The issue of your copyright violation complaint should have >been addressed at the time it happened. I have great respect for >you Holly, but I find your use of *their* to be an excellent example >of the crux of the whole matter. Since there were a handful of emails on the topic, I used the *their* as a generic *label* for that group of complaints about the census transcription files, not as a factional labeling. I saw no point in wading through and picking out specific names. But, yes there is a touch of I think the word is acrimony in my message as I find it difficult to reconcile the current furor with the past negligence by all concerned. Perhaps the message here is that people only pay attention if you are loud and demanding and ugly about things <sigh>

I would like to know who authorized Ron Eason to have write access to the national web site. I would also like to know if he had write access to only one directory or the entire site.

At 07:21 AM 4/30/00 -0500, Ginger wrote: >Everyone seemed to be willing to address the issue >of the violation of Holly's copyright by the Census >Project, to the point that a whole project was delinked. >I have never had a problem with addressing that issue >if Holly felt her copyright had been violated. NOBODY'S >copyright should be violated. The issue of my copyright has existed since Kay moved the project. There is no *if* to my feelings on the matter and no one from the Census Project has ever made any attempt to discuss the issue or any resolution of the same with me. Instead the subject has been bandied about including misleading and even blatant untruths primarily on lists to which I do not even have access to defend myself. >Now we appear to have a double standard. It seems to >be ok if some violate that copyright because we "like" >them and we "didn't like" the other folks. Oh, I can hear >the screams of outrage at that statement now. But when >you peel back all the BS that's exactly what it boils down >to. No, it is not the same, the transcribers (and proofreaders for that matter) have not had their names erased from their transcriptions. I am certainly open to a discussion of better, more accurate, less misleading phrasing of the Archives statement added to the files but it is not at all the same thing as erasure of a person. >Well folks, what's it going to be? Do we only hand out >justice to those we "like", or are all the members of this >Project going to be treated equally? How about we ignore *their* issue for well over a year as that seems to be the way of things. Holly Timm

-----Original Message----- From: Holly Timm <hollyft@bright.net> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, April 30, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [BOARD-L] Copyright Violation >At 07:21 AM 4/30/00 -0500, Ginger wrote: >>Everyone seemed to be willing to address the issue >>of the violation of Holly's copyright by the Census >>Project, to the point that a whole project was delinked. >>I have never had a problem with addressing that issue >>if Holly felt her copyright had been violated. NOBODY'S >>copyright should be violated. > >The issue of my copyright has existed since Kay moved the project. There is >no *if* to my feelings on the matter and no one from the Census Project >has ever made any attempt to discuss the issue or any resolution of the >same with me. Instead the subject has been bandied about including >misleading and even blatant untruths primarily on lists to which I do not >even have access to defend myself. I fully agree with you there Holly. Issues being addressed in forums other than where they should be addressed has caused a lot of havoc. > >>Now we appear to have a double standard. It seems to >>be ok if some violate that copyright because we "like" >>them and we "didn't like" the other folks. Oh, I can hear >>the screams of outrage at that statement now. But when >>you peel back all the BS that's exactly what it boils down >>to. > >No, it is not the same, the transcribers (and proofreaders for that matter) >have not had their names erased from their transcriptions. I am certainly >open to a discussion of better, more accurate, less misleading phrasing of >the Archives statement added to the files but it is not at all the same >thing as erasure of a person. Copyright violation is copyright violation. For that matter, the instance demonstrated this morning of a change to the West Virginia state page has nothing to do with an archives statement. > >>Well folks, what's it going to be? Do we only hand out >>justice to those we "like", or are all the members of this >>Project going to be treated equally? > >How about we ignore *their* issue for well over a year as that seems to be >the way of things. The issue of your copyright violation complaint should have been addressed at the time it happened. I have great respect for you Holly, but I find your use of *their* to be an excellent example of the crux of the whole matter. Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com > >Holly Timm > > >

Don't the members of this Board think it's about time the numerous complaints about copyright violation by the Archives Project were addressed? Everyone seemed to be willing to address the issue of the violation of Holly's copyright by the Census Project, to the point that a whole project was delinked. I have never had a problem with addressing that issue if Holly felt her copyright had been violated. NOBODY'S copyright should be violated. Now we appear to have a double standard. It seems to be ok if some violate that copyright because we "like" them and we "didn't like" the other folks. Oh, I can hear the screams of outrage at that statement now. But when you peel back all the BS that's exactly what it boils down to. The bottom line of this whole sordid affair is that a couple of folks couldn't get along and it has affected the entire USGW Project. Well folks, what's it going to be? Do we only hand out justice to those we "like", or are all the members of this Project going to be treated equally? Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com

On Motion 00-9 - "'the board ratify the National Coordinator's delinking of the Census Project.'" At the end of the 48 hour voting period or thereabouts: The following votes had been cast: Yes - 4; No - 4; Abstain - 0; Not voting - 7 Quorum not met; Motion fails. Subsequent to that time 2 more votes have been received - for the record - No - 1; Abstain - 1. Tim

NO Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: BOARD-L@rootsweb.com <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 24, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 00-9 vote >Please cast your vote on Motion 00-9 as originally written: > >"'the board ratify the National Coordinator's delinking of the Census >Project.'" > >by saying Yes, No, Abstain - without further comment. Votes with other >comments will not be counted. You can of course send along your comments >in another message. 2/3 vote required to pass. > >Tim >