I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. Ken I move to amend the above motion to read: I move that Mr. Tim Stowell, National Coordinator and Ms. Holly Timm, County Coordinator Representative At Large apply on behalf of the USGenWeb Project for a Service Mark. 1. Apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project". 2. Create an application for federal Service Mark registration. This includes: name, citizenship, address and telephone number of the trademark owner and the owner's entity type. 3. Submit application, example of use (for applications where you are already using the Service Mark) and application fee (currently $325) to the United States Patent and Trademark Office. (PTO) a. The monies for this will need to be collected and someone appointed by the AB to "handle" the monies. (Suggestion: Someone with a scanner to post copies of receipts etc. ought to be selected or else find two persons in close enough proximity to jointly establish a bank account for the project with dual signatures required to disburse funds.) 4. Service Mark is published in the PTO's "Official Gazette" at which time anyone that feels damaged by your application has 30 days to contest your application. a. Request that Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to this application and submit it with the application and/or directly to the PTO. The Bylaws will also need a modification. The "control" of the Service Mark, should we be able to get it needs to pass with each election to the positions of National Coordinator and County Coordinator Representative at Large. (Suggestion: Set up a committee to draft the needed changes to the bylaws.) Maggie NW/Plains CC Representative ----- Original Message ----- From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well that hasn't happened Therefore: After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. Ken Short Chairman TM Committee **************************************************************************** ******* I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. Ken

yes At 01:18 AM 10/6/00 -0400, you wrote: >Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along >your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. Thanks, Tim > >Motion 00-29A reads: > >Whereas, the mark "USGenWeb" has been in public use since June 1996 as >a Collective Membership mark[*] for the USGenWeb Project, a non-profit >volunteer group providing free online genealogical services, and the >derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives' has been in public use since August >1996 as a service mark for the USGenWeb Project's archival services, >and the derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives Project' has been in use >since that date as a Collective Membership mark for that subset of the >Project's volunteers who manage and maintain that archival service, it >is the finding of the USGenWeb Advisory Board that the USGenWeb Project >as a group is the rightful holder of 'USGenWeb', 'USGenWeb Archives', >and all derivative marks. > >Whereas the USGenWeb Archive's Project's current Coordinator, Linda Lewis, >filed[**] with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (PTO) on 1 May, 2000, >an application (Serial Number 78006402) in which "Linda Lewis" is listed >as the name of the applicant, and "volunteer group" as the applicant >entity type, that application containing the declaration that "no other >person, firm, corporation or association has the right to use the mark", >such an application, if granted, could deny to the USGenWeb Project the >lawful right to use the marks by which it has identified the Project's >member web sites for over four years. > >Therefore, the USGenWeb Project Advisory Board officially requests that >Linda Lewis withdraw her application as soon as possible, and that she >furnish the Advisory Board with a bona fide copy or proof of her >withdrawal of said application. > >The Advisory Board further advises Linda Lewis that it is the Project's >intention to retain the legal right to the USGenWeb Archives mark, and >that if proof of withdrawal is not received by the Advisory Board within >ten (10) business days of the passage of this motion, the Advisory Board >will assume that withdrawal is not forthcoming and will proceed with >other measures to protect the Project's right to the mark. > >Recognizing that Linda's goal in making her application was to protect >the USGenWeb Archives mark from unauthorized use by those not representing >the USGenWeb Project, the Advisory Board assures Linda Lewis that if >her application is withdrawn, the Advisory Board will act as expeditiously >as possible to register the USGenWeb Project's legal right to the mark. > >Recognizing that the authority for determining membership in the >USGenWeb Archives Project lies with the Coordinator of the USGenWeb >Archives Project, the Advisory Board further assures Linda Lewis >that if her application is withdrawn, authority for granting or >removing authorization to use the USGenWeb Archives mark to identify >web sites as part of the USGenWeb Archives Project will be assigned by >the USGenWeb Project to Linda Lewis as long as she is a member of the >USGenWeb Project and holds the office of Coordinator of the USGenWeb >Archives Project.

This motion seems much more complete and clear to me. Therefore, I second it. Shari Handley shari@tyaskin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Harrison <ArtDept@compuserve.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:52 AM Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion to Acquire Service Mark > I move that the Board instruct the National Coordinator to immediately prepare an > application for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" on behalf of the project, and > to file the application with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (PTO)as soon as > funds are available. > > I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to use the name "The > USGenWeb Project" whereever possible in the application and where the name of an > individual is required he be authorized to use his own name or the name of the current > Representative-at-Large, as appropriate. > > I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to request Linda Lewis to > communicate with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office stating she has no objection to > our application. > > I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to keep the Board apprised > on a day-to-day basis of the progress in preparing the application and that he be > instructed to immediately consult with the Board in regard to any difficulties and/or > delays in preparing the application. Additionally, once the application is submitted > the National Coordinator shall keep the Board apprised on a regular basis of the > progress of the application and of any additional communications to or from the U.S. > Patent and Trademarks Office. > > These actions are taken with the understanding that monies will be collected privately > to cover the costs of the application. > > -Isaiah > > -- > Richard Harrison/Encinitas, San Diego, California > USGenWeb Northwest/Plains County Coordinator Rep > IAGenWeb Immediate Past State Coordinator > Jones Co. IAGenWeb Coord.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajones/index.htm > Jones Co. List Owner: IAJONES-L@rootsweb.com > IOWA-L List Owner: IOWA-L@rootsweb.com > Richard's Genealogy: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard >

I second this motion. ----- Original Message ----- From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. Ken

I second this motion. Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:18 AM Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 99-25 I move to Amend Previously Adopted Motion 99-25. Issue: Motion to Appoint a Secretary Date: 12 September 1999 Motion #99-25:I move that Motion 99-2 be rescinded and that the Board appoint a secretary for the one year term of Board II or until dismissed by Board II or a succeeding Board. Further, That the secretary nominee be selected from among the volunteer membership of the USGenWeb Project. That the nominee to this position not be currently serving as a Board member. That the nominee be nominated by the National Coordinator and appointed by a majority vote of a quorum of the Board. Rejection of a nominee will require the NC to forward another name. The appointee must either be knowledgeable in parliamentary procedure or be willing to learn proper procedure using Roberts Rules and be well versed in the Project Bylaws. Duties of the appointee shall be those assigned by the Chair (NC). The NC shall insure that the secretary be subscribed to all appropriate mailing lists. As a minimum these lists would be the USGENWEB-ALL-L, STATE-COORD-L, ARCHIVES-L, the Board-Exec-L and the Board-L. *************************************************************************** I move that Previously Adopted Motion 99-25 be amended to read: That the Board Secretary not be currently serving as a Board member. The appointee must either be knowledgeable in parliamentary procedure or be willing to learn proper procedure using Roberts Rules and be well versed in the Project Bylaws. Duties of the appointee shall be those assigned by the Chair (NC). The NC shall insure that the secretary be subscribed to all appropriate mailing lists. As a minimum these lists would be the USGENWEB-ALL-L, STATE-COORD-L, ARCHIVES-L, the Board-Exec-L and the Board-L. **************************************************************************** ** Since the duties and responsibilities of the Board Secretary are defined by the NC, as stated in the original motion, the NC should have the prerogative of selecting someone he/she feels comfortable with. Ken

Yes Shari Handley shari@tyaskin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:18 AM Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 00-29A Vote > Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along > your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. Thanks, Tim > > Motion 00-29A reads: > > Whereas, the mark "USGenWeb" has been in public use since June 1996 as > a Collective Membership mark[*] for the USGenWeb Project, a non-profit > volunteer group providing free online genealogical services, and the > derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives' has been in public use since August > 1996 as a service mark for the USGenWeb Project's archival services, > and the derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives Project' has been in use > since that date as a Collective Membership mark for that subset of the > Project's volunteers who manage and maintain that archival service, it > is the finding of the USGenWeb Advisory Board that the USGenWeb Project > as a group is the rightful holder of 'USGenWeb', 'USGenWeb Archives', > and all derivative marks. > > Whereas the USGenWeb Archive's Project's current Coordinator, Linda Lewis, > filed[**] with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (PTO) on 1 May, 2000, > an application (Serial Number 78006402) in which "Linda Lewis" is listed > as the name of the applicant, and "volunteer group" as the applicant > entity type, that application containing the declaration that "no other > person, firm, corporation or association has the right to use the mark", > such an application, if granted, could deny to the USGenWeb Project the > lawful right to use the marks by which it has identified the Project's > member web sites for over four years. > > Therefore, the USGenWeb Project Advisory Board officially requests that > Linda Lewis withdraw her application as soon as possible, and that she > furnish the Advisory Board with a bona fide copy or proof of her > withdrawal of said application. > > The Advisory Board further advises Linda Lewis that it is the Project's > intention to retain the legal right to the USGenWeb Archives mark, and > that if proof of withdrawal is not received by the Advisory Board within > ten (10) business days of the passage of this motion, the Advisory Board > will assume that withdrawal is not forthcoming and will proceed with > other measures to protect the Project's right to the mark. > > Recognizing that Linda's goal in making her application was to protect > the USGenWeb Archives mark from unauthorized use by those not representing > the USGenWeb Project, the Advisory Board assures Linda Lewis that if > her application is withdrawn, the Advisory Board will act as expeditiously > as possible to register the USGenWeb Project's legal right to the mark. > > Recognizing that the authority for determining membership in the > USGenWeb Archives Project lies with the Coordinator of the USGenWeb > Archives Project, the Advisory Board further assures Linda Lewis > that if her application is withdrawn, authority for granting or > removing authorization to use the USGenWeb Archives mark to identify > web sites as part of the USGenWeb Archives Project will be assigned by > the USGenWeb Project to Linda Lewis as long as she is a member of the > USGenWeb Project and holds the office of Coordinator of the USGenWeb > Archives Project. > > >

> Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along > your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. Thanks, Tim Yes Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:18 AM Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 00-29A Vote > > Motion 00-29A reads: > > Whereas, the mark "USGenWeb" has been in public use since June 1996 as > a Collective Membership mark[*] for the USGenWeb Project, a non-profit > volunteer group providing free online genealogical services, and the > derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives' has been in public use since August > 1996 as a service mark for the USGenWeb Project's archival services, > and the derivative mark 'USGenWeb Archives Project' has been in use > since that date as a Collective Membership mark for that subset of the > Project's volunteers who manage and maintain that archival service, it > is the finding of the USGenWeb Advisory Board that the USGenWeb Project > as a group is the rightful holder of 'USGenWeb', 'USGenWeb Archives', > and all derivative marks. > > Whereas the USGenWeb Archive's Project's current Coordinator, Linda Lewis, > filed[**] with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (PTO) on 1 May, 2000, > an application (Serial Number 78006402) in which "Linda Lewis" is listed > as the name of the applicant, and "volunteer group" as the applicant > entity type, that application containing the declaration that "no other > person, firm, corporation or association has the right to use the mark", > such an application, if granted, could deny to the USGenWeb Project the > lawful right to use the marks by which it has identified the Project's > member web sites for over four years. > > Therefore, the USGenWeb Project Advisory Board officially requests that > Linda Lewis withdraw her application as soon as possible, and that she > furnish the Advisory Board with a bona fide copy or proof of her > withdrawal of said application. > > The Advisory Board further advises Linda Lewis that it is the Project's > intention to retain the legal right to the USGenWeb Archives mark, and > that if proof of withdrawal is not received by the Advisory Board within > ten (10) business days of the passage of this motion, the Advisory Board > will assume that withdrawal is not forthcoming and will proceed with > other measures to protect the Project's right to the mark. > > Recognizing that Linda's goal in making her application was to protect > the USGenWeb Archives mark from unauthorized use by those not representing > the USGenWeb Project, the Advisory Board assures Linda Lewis that if > her application is withdrawn, the Advisory Board will act as expeditiously > as possible to register the USGenWeb Project's legal right to the mark. > > Recognizing that the authority for determining membership in the > USGenWeb Archives Project lies with the Coordinator of the USGenWeb > Archives Project, the Advisory Board further assures Linda Lewis > that if her application is withdrawn, authority for granting or > removing authorization to use the USGenWeb Archives mark to identify > web sites as part of the USGenWeb Archives Project will be assigned by > the USGenWeb Project to Linda Lewis as long as she is a member of the > USGenWeb Project and holds the office of Coordinator of the USGenWeb > Archives Project. > > > >

I move that the Board instruct the National Coordinator to immediately prepare an application for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" on behalf of the project, and to file the application with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office (PTO)as soon as funds are available. I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to use the name "The USGenWeb Project" whereever possible in the application and where the name of an individual is required he be authorized to use his own name or the name of the current Representative-at-Large, as appropriate. I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to request Linda Lewis to communicate with the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office stating she has no objection to our application. I further move that the National Coordinator be instructed to keep the Board apprised on a day-to-day basis of the progress in preparing the application and that he be instructed to immediately consult with the Board in regard to any difficulties and/or delays in preparing the application. Additionally, once the application is submitted the National Coordinator shall keep the Board apprised on a regular basis of the progress of the application and of any additional communications to or from the U.S. Patent and Trademarks Office. These actions are taken with the understanding that monies will be collected privately to cover the costs of the application. -Isaiah -- Richard Harrison/Encinitas, San Diego, California USGenWeb Northwest/Plains County Coordinator Rep IAGenWeb Immediate Past State Coordinator Jones Co. IAGenWeb Coord.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajones/index.htm Jones Co. List Owner: IAJONES-L@rootsweb.com IOWA-L List Owner: IOWA-L@rootsweb.com Richard's Genealogy: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richard

At 01:52 AM 10/7/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ken, > >Maybe we can combine your motion with this one that I withdrew? > >==================== > >I move that Mr. Tim Stowell, National Coordinator and Ms. Holly Timm, County >Coordinator Representative At Large apply on behalf of the USGenWeb Project >for a trademark. > >1. Determine specifics of exactly what is to be filed ie. "USGenWeb" or >"USGenWeb Project". > >2. Create an application for federal trademark registration. This >includes: name, citizenship, address and telephone number of the trademark >owner and the owner's entity type. > >3. Submit application, example of use (for applications where you are >already using the trademark) and application fee (currently $325) to the >United States Patent and Trademark Office. (PTO) > > a. The monies for this will need to be collected and someone appointed >by the AB to "handle" the monies. (Suggestion: Someone with a scanner to >post copies of receipts etc. ought to be selected or else find two persons >in close enough proximity to jointly establish a bank account for the >project with dual signatures required to disburse funds.) > >4. Trademark is published in the PTO's "Official Gazette" at which time >anyone that feels damaged by your application has 30 days to contest your >application. > >The Bylaws will also need a modification. The "control" of the trademark, >should we be able to get it needs to pass with each election to the >positions of National Coordinator and County Coordinator Representative at >Large. > > >Maggie >NW/Plains CC Representative > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> >To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:20 PM >Subject: [BOARD-L] > > >I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would >discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well >that hasn't happened Therefore: > > >After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service >Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. > >Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we >need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us >doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to >the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if >Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. > >Ken Short >Chairman >TM Committee >**************************************************************************** >******* >I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The >USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. > >Ken I have no objection. The only thing is it should be a service mark, since that is what we offer, a service. Trademark is not really applicable to us. Ken

No Maggie ----- Original Message ----- Subject: [BOARD-L] Motion 00-29A Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain.

Ken, Maybe we can combine your motion with this one that I withdrew? ==================== I move that Mr. Tim Stowell, National Coordinator and Ms. Holly Timm, County Coordinator Representative At Large apply on behalf of the USGenWeb Project for a trademark. 1. Determine specifics of exactly what is to be filed ie. "USGenWeb" or "USGenWeb Project". 2. Create an application for federal trademark registration. This includes: name, citizenship, address and telephone number of the trademark owner and the owner's entity type. 3. Submit application, example of use (for applications where you are already using the trademark) and application fee (currently $325) to the United States Patent and Trademark Office. (PTO) a. The monies for this will need to be collected and someone appointed by the AB to "handle" the monies. (Suggestion: Someone with a scanner to post copies of receipts etc. ought to be selected or else find two persons in close enough proximity to jointly establish a bank account for the project with dual signatures required to disburse funds.) 4. Trademark is published in the PTO's "Official Gazette" at which time anyone that feels damaged by your application has 30 days to contest your application. The Bylaws will also need a modification. The "control" of the trademark, should we be able to get it needs to pass with each election to the positions of National Coordinator and County Coordinator Representative at Large. Maggie NW/Plains CC Representative ----- Original Message ----- From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well that hasn't happened Therefore: After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. Ken Short Chairman TM Committee **************************************************************************** ******* I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. Ken

I forgot to ask Ken who will be paying for the SM next year? Who will be paying for next ten years? While I thinking about it, who will be paying for the domains in future? Richard... ILGenWeb State Coordinator wrote: > > Ken may I inquire where the NC is supposed to get the money for this > filing? What address is to be used? From what I have been reading. We > would only be filing for "USGenWeb"? Maybe we would be better off > applying for "WasUSGenWeb"? Richard... > > kshort wrote: > > > > I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would > > discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well > > that hasn't happened Therefore: > > > > After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service > > Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. > > > > Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we > > need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us > > doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to > > the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if > > Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. > > > > Ken Short > > Chairman > > TM Committee > > *********************************************************************************** > > I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The > > USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. > > > > Ken > > -- > Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator > Mailto:illinois@usroots.com ICQ # 898319 > NE/NCR CC Representative USGWP Advisory Board > > ILGEN-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator > IL-CHAT-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator > HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator > VARNER-L List Co-ordinator FISHING-L list Co-ordinator > HEDGEHOGS-L List Co-ordinator > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm > http://www.pets.rootsweb.com/~hedgehogs/index.html > http://www.crafts.rootsweb.com/~woodworking/index.html > http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html > http://www.wf.net/~richpump/camppage.htm -- Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator Mailto:illinois@usroots.com ICQ # 898319 NE/NCR CC Representative USGWP Advisory Board ILGEN-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator IL-CHAT-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator FISHING-L list Co-ordinator HEDGEHOGS-L List Co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.pets.rootsweb.com/~hedgehogs/index.html http://www.crafts.rootsweb.com/~woodworking/index.html http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html http://www.wf.net/~richpump/camppage.htm

Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. No Ken

Ken may I inquire where the NC is supposed to get the money for this filing? What address is to be used? From what I have been reading. We would only be filing for "USGenWeb"? Maybe we would be better off applying for "WasUSGenWeb"? Richard... kshort wrote: > > I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would > discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well > that hasn't happened Therefore: > > After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service > Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. > > Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we > need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us > doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to > the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if > Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. > > Ken Short > Chairman > TM Committee > *********************************************************************************** > I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The > USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. > > Ken -- Richard M. Howland IlGenWeb State Coordinator Mailto:illinois@usroots.com ICQ # 898319 NE/NCR CC Representative USGWP Advisory Board ILGEN-L List Co-ordinator ILPIATT-L List Co-ordinator IL-CHAT-L List Co-ordinator TXYOUNG-L List Co-ordinator HOWLAND-L List Co-ordinator WOODWORKING-L list Co-ordinator VARNER-L List Co-ordinator FISHING-L list Co-ordinator HEDGEHOGS-L List Co-ordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilpiatt/piatt.htm http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~richpump/YoungCountyCemPage.htm http://www.pets.rootsweb.com/~hedgehogs/index.html http://www.crafts.rootsweb.com/~woodworking/index.html http://www.wf.net/~richpump/HowlandOnLine.html http://www.wf.net/~richpump/camppage.htm

We definitely need to file for the mark ourselves, but ask permission? I don't think so. Ellen At 09:20 PM 10/6/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would >discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well >that hasn't happened Therefore: > > >After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service >Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. > >Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we >need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us >doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to >the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if >Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. > >Ken Short >Chairman >TM Committee >*************************************************************************** >******** >I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The >USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. > >Ken

With who as the registrant? Ironic twist isn't it. Having to ask Linda for permission to register our own name when she is the one that only has permission to use it. I guess it's finally happened.. an individual has taken possession of USGenWeb, now who's going to protect the Archives from Linda? Ginger gingerh@shawneelink.com ----- Original Message ----- From: kshort <kshort@kroo.com> To: <BOARD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:20 PM Subject: [BOARD-L] > I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would > discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well > that hasn't happened Therefore: > > > After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service > Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. > > Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we > need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us > doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to > the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if > Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. > > Ken Short > Chairman > TM Committee > **************************************************************************** ******* > I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The > USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. > > Ken > >

I posted the following to Board-Exec a while back hoping someone would discuss it and take the bull by the horns and make a motion on it. Well that hasn't happened Therefore: After due consideration, we recommend that the AB apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" , as soon as possible. Along those lines, after reading reams of stuff about TM's, SM's etc, we need to have Linda Lewis write a letter stating she has no objection to us doing this. After studying the information available on line in regard to the legalities involved, the only way there would be a clash would be if Linda filed an objection to the Project acquiring the SM's. Ken Short Chairman TM Committee *********************************************************************************** I move that the Board direct the NC to apply for the Service Mark "The USGenWeb Project" as soon as possible. Ken

>Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along >your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. Thanks, Tim > yes

>Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along >your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. Thanks, Tim Tim, This calling for a vote without first having any discussion period is what I meant by saying that I didn't think we always needed to stick to the exact letter of parliamentary procedure. I'm not objecting to your doing so; I think there are good reasons to want to move this along even though it is not according to PP. I'm just saying that it wasn't very fair for you to allude to my wanting to use parliamentary procedure "only when it was convenient for those with the most votes", when it should have been clear from my words that I was referring to exactly this kind of informality for the sake of avoiding unecessary delays, which you have been by far the most frequent utilizer of (if not an explicit advocate.) Me: >>But I'm more concerned with pragmatics and getting something >>accomplished than sticking to the exact letter of parliamentary >>procedure, so I personally am OK with ... the changes being >>discussed and made while the motion is supposedly "off the floor" >>(the improper way, but it seems to be what Tim is requesting, >>so if it works, why not?) Tim: >Ok, message to follow. So you are saying to heck with parliamentary >procedure IF it goes against the way you feel things should go?

At 01:18 AM 10/6/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Please vote on Motion 00-29A as follows by sending along >your vote equivalent of yes, no, abstain. YES Ellen Pack SE/MA CC Rep