With 12 members voting, the motion to table motion 2009/10-23 fails. Those voting to table the motion: Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola, Linda Lewis and W. David Samuelsen Those voting against tabling the motion: Ann Allen Geoghegan, Dale Grimm, Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Pauli Smith and Tina Vickery Those not voting: Cyndie Enfinger Discussion will continue on motion 2009/10-23. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and seconded by Alice Allen. Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Agree Linda K. Lewis SWSC.CC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and seconded by Alice Allen. Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Agree. Colleen Pustola NWPL CC Rep On 4/25/2010 7:35 AM, Sherri wrote: > A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Forwarded as requested. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: John Quigley Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Thoughts on justice I find it very interesting that when it comes to justice, we all want to be sure that we are given a just and fair hearing, that we will be justly treated and that justice will be done in our case. However, when it comes to helping to insure that others are treated fairly and justly, we are not interested. I have seen it when it came to serving on a Jury, we find all sorts of excuses why we cannot serve on Jury duty. When it comes to serving on a board or committee that is going to be working on ways to improve our community, or our organization we are always too busy, or not talented enough or any number of reasons why we cannot serve. What happens the next time you need someone to help you, or your community or organization, and every one is too busy, not willing to help or plain doesn't care enough to serve? You see, if you want justice, you have to be willing to act to insure that others are treated justly. If you want to be helped, then you need to be a helper yourself. It is said that all the work in an organization is done in the following manner. 80% of the work by 20% of the people, while 20% of the work is done by the other 80% of the people. We have sent out a request to you the membership of this wonderful organization, a group of people who want to be sure that folks who are looking for their roots will have the information needed. We asked for folks to volunteer to be Mediators and / arbitrators, and we advised you that you would receive training so you would know what was required of you before you had to take on a task. Yet, only one person has replied to that request. Unfortunately that person is not qualified and cannot therefore serve. However we have hundreds of persons out there in genealogy land so I wonder, have the 20% that are willing workers decided they are too tired to volunteer, or is it just that are unable to come out for this one more cause. That leaves it to the 80% that do almost nothing to now step up. So what will it be? If we do not have mediators and arbitrators, then no one will be able to receive justice, because there will be no one to hear the grievance that come up. Please send you name and email and position in the USGenWeb to John Quigley, [email protected] along with a brief resume of your abilities. We really will give you some training before we throw you to the wolves. (VBG). John Quigley Chair, USGenWeb Grievance Committee. _______________________________________________ Gc-confidential mailing list [email protected] http://gc.usgenweb.org/mailman/listinfo/gc-confidential_gc.usgenweb.org

DISAGREE R/S Larry Flesher SWSC SC Rep ----- Original Message ---- From: Sherri <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, April 24, 2010 5:35:27 PM Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and seconded by Alice Allen.  Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with "agree".  Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at  <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda  <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This (see below) is only the beginning of the type of harassment members of the AB face everyday. Of course we all know that Mr. Lytton (aka Mary White and numerous other FEMALE aliases) is behind at this one (common knowledge). Mr. Lytton being a total coward not to mention convicted felony (selling drugs to children) claims to fight for the membership of the USGW and the American way, seems his emails and aliases are extremely cowardly. You decide? Selling drugs to children and fighting for members rights, somehow these do not go together? Why always female aliases? This was sent to my private email address and it being one of numerous harassing emails I have received from him. >From this point on any harassing email I receive from Mr. Lytton or one of his FEMALE aliases will be forwarded to all public mailing lists. Jeff Kemp ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary White To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:51 PM Subject: [GenWebStalkers.com Blog] Mutt & Jeff So much corruption, so little time Before we return to continue my last post about Mutt & Jeff, I have just been informed that this Blog now has closer to 300 subscribers than 400. I am not allowed to know exactly how many we have nor who they are. After all, I certainly would not want my posts to be biased. Especially since one of the new subscribers is an official of the Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) which the USGenWeb is (currently) allegedly a member of. Now on to Mutt (Dale 'FraudMan' Grimm) and Jeff 'Fruit Loop' Kemp. But first, the name calling by members of the Advisory Board disclosed in my previous post, is still being permitted on USGenWeb lists by USGenWeb National Coordinator Sherri 'BradyBunch' Bradley with Tina Vickery using the SouthWest Regional list to call Daryl Lytton, "You are a tedious, boring, arrogant and an ignorant individual" much to the delight of Mr. Lytton, who treasures every moment Tina endears him. Tina is the USGenWeb Representive At Large. Before we get to Mutt & Jeff we have an important announcement to make. We are going to be exposing some USGenWeb corruption at the highest levels. There is so much to tell, we may resort to brief posts here and link them to our associated Web site for more details. This involves the National Coordinator, the Representive At Large, the USGenWeb Grievance Committee, and other prominent members. Welcome to the real USGenWeb, FGS! In other news, I have received two comments on my NCGenWeb posts, which I thought important enough to Blog about than leave them as comments. They will be presented tomorrow. Amd now for Dale 'FraudMan' Grimm, the OHGenWeb State Coordinator allowed a seat on the AB even though he does not fit the description of Member In Good Standing, as required by the USGenWeb bylaws to be on the AB. Dale has been informed several time that his OHGenWeb state pages has an altered "OHGenWeb Email Code of Ethics" voted into place by the CCs years ago. You will no longer find it named "Code of Ethics" because it has been altered by either Dale Grimm, or the previous SC, Sandra Quinn, in an attempt to hide the fact that Quinn broke the "Code of Ethics" when she expelled Daryl from the OHGenWeb. Dale Grimm has so far refused to restore the original version to the OHGenWeb state pages. That's not all of Dale's grim corruption, but how he earned the "FraudMan" title will remain for another post. As for Jeff "Fruit Loop" Kemp, he is another member of the AB supposedly a MIGS. However, Jeff is also a NCGenWeb CC who has been caught voting to approve NCGenWeb rules which are in conflict with the USGenWeb bylaws. According to the USGenWeb bylaws, states can develop their own rules as long as they do not conflict with the bylaws, and the bylaw duty of the AB is to perform the duties of the bylaws. Oh what a tangled web we weave, huh Jeff? Speaking of web, Jeff is also the USGenWeb Webmaster. However, he is unable to find the broken link on the USGenWeb Bylaws page although he has been told about it several times. The broken link is to the USGenWeb Project's Official Copyright Policy. We now say farewell to Dale and Jeff. As is my practice I subscribe people-of-interest to my posts, then un-subscribe them when no longer interesting. Mary White -- Posted By Mary White to GenWebStalkers.com Blog at 4/24/2010 09:44:00 PM

Agree Alice *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/24/2010 at 6:35 PM [email protected] wrote: >A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and >seconded by Alice Allen. > > > >Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond >with >"agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > >Sherri Bradley >National Coordinator >USGenWeb Project >Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> >http://usgenweb.org >Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > >USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Disagree. Les Shockey Sherri wrote: > A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Disagree Denise Wells SEMA CC Rep On Apr 24, 2010, at 7:55 PM, "Tina S. Vickery" <[email protected]> wrote: > Disagree. > > Tina Vickery > Representative at Large > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherri" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM > Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 > > >> A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David >> Samuelsen and >> seconded by Alice Allen. >> >> >> >> Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please >> respond >> with >> "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Disagree. Ann Allen Geoghegan On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Disagree > > > Dale Grimm > > > > A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond > > with > > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > > National Coordinator > > USGenWeb Project > > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > > http://usgenweb.org > > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Disagree. Tina Vickery Representative at Large ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:35 PM Subject: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 >A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond > with > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Disagree Dale Grimm > A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond > with > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Disagree Jeff Kemp ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [BOARD] Move to Table Motion 2009/10-23 > Disagree > > > Dale Grimm > > >> A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and >> seconded by Alice Allen. >> >> >> >> Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond >> with >> "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Disagree >> A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and >> seconded by Alice Allen. >> >> >> >> Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond >> with >> "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org<http://usgenweb.org/>> >> http://usgenweb.org<http://usgenweb.org/> >> Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php>> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and seconded by Alice Allen. Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

Alice, The motion was restated here after the other motion was formally recognized as being failed http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-04/1272128138. There has been no second. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DC & Alice Allen Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 6:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] In response to David Samuelsen - I'm not sure I've seen the motion. My Board mail sorts into a specific folder, and I haven't seen anything in this folder that indicates this motion. I will check the Archives though, maybe my ISP is being persnickety today. Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/24/2010 at 5:30 PM [email protected] wrote: >David I have seen no second since you made the proper motion four and >one half hours ago. If one was made, I did not receive it. > >Les > >W David Samuelsen wrote: >> This has nothing to do with Point of Order. It is completely separate. >> >> Quoting from Sturgis page 71 >> 5.take precedence over all other subsidiary motions. You ignored the >second. >> >> David >> >> On 4/24/2010 1:39 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> I don't see that I mentioned it being specific to your Point of Order, >>> except to the extent that I responded to your message with that >subject. I >>> will apologize for that oversight on my part. >>> >>> The tabling motion is here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-04/1272128138 >>> There has not been a second to the motion. I would request that a time >>> frame is specifically stated, otherwise, per Sturgis, no additional >debate >>> could occur when the issue is revisited. >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, The second was made prior to the motion being recognized, and more importantly, while another motion was already on the floor. As previously stated, the AB has always operated by only allowing one motion to be on the floor at a time. The call to question was already on the floor, and, even though it was already dead by having more than 1/3 of the board voting to disagree with the motion, it still had to be completed before moving on. Since you restated the motion, as I requested, we need a second on it and then we'll vote and move on to other things, hopefully. <sigh> We've got a lot that's on our agenda and we've not made much progress since January. It's a shame since we started out so well. Hopefully, we can get back to work and make a dent in the agenda items to get some of them completed. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 4:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] In response to David Samuelsen - This has nothing to do with Point of Order. It is completely separate. Quoting from Sturgis page 71 5.take precedence over all other subsidiary motions. You ignored the second. David On 4/24/2010 1:39 PM, Sherri wrote: > I don't see that I mentioned it being specific to your Point of Order, > except to the extent that I responded to your message with that subject. I > will apologize for that oversight on my part. > > The tabling motion is here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-04/1272128138 > There has not been a second to the motion. I would request that a time > frame is specifically stated, otherwise, per Sturgis, no additional debate > could occur when the issue is revisited. > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of W David Samuelsen > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Executive Session "Point of Order" > > How interesting..... > > Where did I say anything about resign or be removed in this point of order? > > Much less where is the tabling motion which was sent to the board at > your request which was very plain and simple? > > David Samuelsen > > On 4/24/2010 12:33 PM, Sherri wrote: >> That may well be, David, but why bring it up in such an antagonistic way > now >> because everyone's not agreeing with your point of view? As pointed out >> before, it appears that you're doing nothing except to try to force your > own >> agenda onto this AB, including trying to force certain members to either >> resign or to be removed. >> >> Sherri >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of W David Samuelsen >> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Executive Session "Point of Order" >> >> I'm following what the Sturgis says when it comes to the motions. >> >> David >> >> On 4/24/2010 11:51 AM, Denise Wells wrote: >>> For goodness sake, David, why does everything have to be such a >>> fiasco? Can't you just ask a darn question instead of deciding >>> everything is a conspiracy? >>> >>> Denise Wells >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David I have seen no second since you made the proper motion four and one half hours ago. If one was made, I did not receive it. Les W David Samuelsen wrote: > This has nothing to do with Point of Order. It is completely separate. > > Quoting from Sturgis page 71 > 5.take precedence over all other subsidiary motions. You ignored the second. > > David > > On 4/24/2010 1:39 PM, Sherri wrote: >> I don't see that I mentioned it being specific to your Point of Order, >> except to the extent that I responded to your message with that subject. I >> will apologize for that oversight on my part. >> >> The tabling motion is here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-04/1272128138 >> There has not been a second to the motion. I would request that a time >> frame is specifically stated, otherwise, per Sturgis, no additional debate >> could occur when the issue is revisited. >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of W David Samuelsen >> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Executive Session "Point of Order" >> >> How interesting..... >> >> Where did I say anything about resign or be removed in this point of order? >> >> Much less where is the tabling motion which was sent to the board at >> your request which was very plain and simple? >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 4/24/2010 12:33 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> That may well be, David, but why bring it up in such an antagonistic way >> now >>> because everyone's not agreeing with your point of view? As pointed out >>> before, it appears that you're doing nothing except to try to force your >> own >>> agenda onto this AB, including trying to force certain members to either >>> resign or to be removed. >>> >>> Sherri >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of W David Samuelsen >>> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 2:17 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Executive Session "Point of Order" >>> >>> I'm following what the Sturgis says when it comes to the motions. >>> >>> David >>> >>> On 4/24/2010 11:51 AM, Denise Wells wrote: >>>> For goodness sake, David, why does everything have to be such a >>>> fiasco? Can't you just ask a darn question instead of deciding >>>> everything is a conspiracy? >>>> >>>> Denise Wells >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Item 6 leads to a question in which Sturgis seems to contradict itself or uses language that can cause confusion. Page 69, bottom of the page states "When a main motion is postponed temporarily, all pending amendments and other adhering motions are postponed with it. Page 71, item 7 "Applies to main motion only W David Samuelsen wrote: > Page 68-71 Sturgis > It is not ambiguous. The explanation is very defined. > > There are two different types of tabling motions. > > The one I am using: > > 1.Requires a second > 2.is not debatable > 3.cannot be amended > 4.requires majority vote > 5.take precedence over all other subsidiary motions > 6.applies to main motions only > 7.can have no motion applied to it except the motion to withdraw > > "To stop debate on the main motion and remove it, with amendments and > adhering motions, from consideration of the assembly during the current > meeting or convention unless the posposted motion is brought back before > the assembly by a motion to resume consideration or to take from the table." > > Again, not ambigious, it is a very specifici motion. The other one > requires specific date, which the current assembly can not act upon > until that specific date. > > David > > > > On 4/24/2010 1:26 PM, Tina S. Vickery wrote: >> David, do you have a defintion of temporarily, prior to this being seconded. >> Temporarily is pretty ambiguous. >> >> Tina >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]>; "Linda Lewis"<[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]>; "Larry Flesher"<[email protected]>; "Les Shockley" >> <[email protected]>; "Jeff Kemp"<[email protected]>; "Denise >> Wells"<[email protected]>; "Colleen Pustola"<[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]>; "Dale Grimm"<[email protected]>; "DC& Alice Allen" >> <[email protected]>; "Pauli Smith"<[email protected]>; "Cyndie >> Enfinger"<[email protected]>; "Tina Vickery"<[email protected]>; >> "Sherri"<[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 1:01 PM >> Subject: Re-laying the Motion to lay the table 2009/10-23 >> >> >>> At request of the NC: >>> >>> I move to table the motion "2009/10-23" temporarily. >>> >>> The reason: Insufficient time to resolve more concerns. >>> >>> Sturgis page 68-69. >>> >>> W. David Samuelsen > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Agree David Samuelsen On 4/24/2010 4:35 PM, Sherri wrote: > A motion to table motion 2009/10-23 has been made by David Samuelsen and > seconded by Alice Allen. > > > > Those in favor of tabling motion 2009/10-23 temporarily, please respond with > "agree". Those opposed, please respond with "disagree". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >