Pauli, I invite you to amend the motion to clarify the intent is any list administered or responsible for where non-AB is an admin/moderator. I know the standing rules already prevent anyone who has been on the AB from serving in the GC for 3 years, so this part is safe. It's the appointment of the non-AB members as listadmin/moderator of the lists the AB is responsible for where the general membership can post and receive replies, as well as discuss anything goes. This is an area not covered by standing rules. David David On 6/3/2010 6:14 PM, Pauli Smith wrote: > Actually David, for me, your motion is not all that clear in the way that it is written. I can see why there is some confusion as to what lists it is referring to. When I read it, it appears to say that anyone serving on the Grievance Committee, who also moderate a list have to be dismissed as a moderator of said list. You do specify any usgenweb lists, including usgenweb-discuss, but many people can and apparently are, interpreting that to mean any list that is connected in any way to the usgenweb, including the state lists run by SC's. > > Perhaps the motion needs to be slightly rewritten so it is clearer as to what lists are included and what lists are not. right now, it says all lists, which is way too open to misinterpretation. Perhaps it would better read as usgenweb lists controlled or maintained under the AB, such as usgenweb-discuss, uesgenweb-se, yadda, yadda, yadda. > > >>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately.>> > > Pauli Smith > NENC CC Rep. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: W David Samuelsen<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve on the Grievance Committee > > > the motion does NOT apply to the state coordinators. > > You're confusing the motion with the state coordinators. > > The motion is very clear about the lists: usgenweb-discuss, usgenweb-se, > usgenweb-sw, usgenweb-nw, usgenweb-ne and any other lists controlled or > maintained under direction of the AB. > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/3/2010 10:55 AM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > > David, > > > > The State Coordinators are the moderators of the state's administrative > > list(s). The Standard Rules (Section V, subsection A) require that > > there MUST be a state coordinator on the committee (it doesn't state SC > > *or* ASC, it states SC). The wording of this motion causes a conflict > > with that Standard Rule. > > > > http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml> > > > > Tina > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > To:<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve > > on the Grievance Committee > > > > > >> Tina, > >> > >> I made no motion applying to any other committees. > >> > >> The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee > >> and NO other committees. > >> > >> I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) > >> since the region lists are administered by the AB members. > >> > >> Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of > >> lists. > >> > >> David > >> > >> On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > >>> David, > >>> > >>> I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators > >>> cannot > >>> serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? > >>> > >>> Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members > >>> of > >>> the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The > >>> NC > >>> administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed > >>> historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the > >>> beginning of each term. > >>> > >>> If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list > >>> administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any > >>> capacity > >>> within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project > >>> will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project > >>> volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this > >>> motion. > >>> > >>> I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain > >>> further? > >>> > >>> Tina > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> To:<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That > >>> Serve > >>> onthe Grievance Committee > >>> > >>> > >>>> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to > >>>> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the > >>>> future. > >>>> > >>>> David Samuelsen > >>>> > >>>> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: > >>>>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did > >>>>> something > >>>>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel > >>>>> a > >>>>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to > >>>>> understand the why. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Pauli > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM > >>>>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That > >>>>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion > >>>>> 2009/10-27 > >>>>> reads: > >>>> > >>>>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including > >>>>> usgenweb-discuss be > >>>>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the > >>>>> Grievance > >>>>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively > >>>>> immediately. > >>>> > >>>>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." > >>>> > >>>>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with > >>>>> "No > >>>>> discussion". > >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>>> quotes > >>>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

David, No, the motion is not clear about that **at all**. Your motion stated: "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately." Your intent may have been to include ONLY lists that are administered by the AB or their appointed representatives (which are approved each year at the beginning of the term by the entire AB). That's not what the motion says, however. The way the motion is worded, as Tina stated earlier, is in violation of Section V, Subsection A of the Standard Rules, which requires a member of the GC that is a State Coordinator. Since SCs are the administrators of the state lists, your motion would not allow a SC to be named to the committee. I am still unclear why you feel that anyone that administers a mail list, including the usgenweb-discuss mail list, should not be allowed to be seated on the GC. No one GC member has control of any grievance to the point that they will "taint" the process. A GC member is assigned to the team of the moderators and arbitrators and is there to assist with procedural questions and to try to keep everyone on task. They don't personally participate in the mediation and/or arbitration. If a mediated settlement is reached, that's good and fine. Nothing further to do. The entire GC votes to accept or reject the arbitrated settlement if required. Again, no one member has enough "power" to change the outcome of the vote. As for the requirement that mediators and arbitrators can't be list administrators, no one but the Grievance Committee (and maybe not all of them) know who is a mediator and/or arbitrator. That information is not provided to the AB at any point, unless the outcome of a grievance is appealed. It would appear that this motion is specifically aimed at one person and intent is to have them removed from either the Grievance Committee or as Discuss list administrator. While the intent may not have been what is written, a motion's interpretation must stand on what's actually written and presented to the AB for a vote. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 1:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve on the Grievance Committee the motion does NOT apply to the state coordinators. You're confusing the motion with the state coordinators. The motion is very clear about the lists: usgenweb-discuss, usgenweb-se, usgenweb-sw, usgenweb-nw, usgenweb-ne and any other lists controlled or maintained under direction of the AB. David Samuelsen

In response to several comments posted on several mail lists, and in an effort to make sure that the same information gets to all of the mail lists, please forward to all Project mail lists. In order for an amendment to be placed on the ballot for an upcoming election, the proposed amendment must be presented to one of the AB members and posted on the national USGenWeb Project site for at least 30 days prior to the annual election period of 1-31 July. That means the amendment would have to have been composed and posted on the national site by 1 June 2010. If there is an amendment that is posted prior to 1 June but does not have the required number of co-sponsors by 1 June, additional co-sponsors may be added until 15 June by notifying one of the AB representatives so that they can also be added as co-sponsors. The 15 June date is the same date that the nomination period ends for the National election. The Election Committee, at my request, has verified with Larry Stephens, who handles the election, that an amendment can be added to the ballot as long as he is notified of the additions to the ballot by that time. For this election, the amendment proposed by WVGenWeb will be on the ballot because the required co-sponsors have been identified. The amendment proposed by DEGenWeb was posted on the national site before 1 June, but as of this date it has not gained the required co-sponsorships. If the required co-sponsors are identified by 15 June, that amendment will also be on this year's ballot. If the co-sponsors are not identified by 15 June, that amendment will not be on the ballot. I hope this helps. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

I have received a lot of feedback on this motion and all of the feedback is confusion. - The phrase "usgenweb lists" is too vague, the specific lists should have been clarified. - The reason for the motion is the other source of confusion. The reason for such a standing rule should be included in the rule itself and would just continue to cause confusion in the future if it were to pass. Cyndie SP Rep. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve on the Grievance Committee Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 reads: "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually David, for me, your motion is not all that clear in the way that it is written. I can see why there is some confusion as to what lists it is referring to. When I read it, it appears to say that anyone serving on the Grievance Committee, who also moderate a list have to be dismissed as a moderator of said list. You do specify any usgenweb lists, including usgenweb-discuss, but many people can and apparently are, interpreting that to mean any list that is connected in any way to the usgenweb, including the state lists run by SC's. Perhaps the motion needs to be slightly rewritten so it is clearer as to what lists are included and what lists are not. right now, it says all lists, which is way too open to misinterpretation. Perhaps it would better read as usgenweb lists controlled or maintained under the AB, such as usgenweb-discuss, uesgenweb-se, yadda, yadda, yadda. >>"I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately.>> Pauli Smith NENC CC Rep. ----- Original Message ----- From: W David Samuelsen<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve on the Grievance Committee the motion does NOT apply to the state coordinators. You're confusing the motion with the state coordinators. The motion is very clear about the lists: usgenweb-discuss, usgenweb-se, usgenweb-sw, usgenweb-nw, usgenweb-ne and any other lists controlled or maintained under direction of the AB. David Samuelsen On 6/3/2010 10:55 AM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > David, > > The State Coordinators are the moderators of the state's administrative > list(s). The Standard Rules (Section V, subsection A) require that > there MUST be a state coordinator on the committee (it doesn't state SC > *or* ASC, it states SC). The wording of this motion causes a conflict > with that Standard Rule. > > http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml> > > Tina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To:<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve > on the Grievance Committee > > >> Tina, >> >> I made no motion applying to any other committees. >> >> The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee >> and NO other committees. >> >> I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) >> since the region lists are administered by the AB members. >> >> Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of >> lists. >> >> David >> >> On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: >>> David, >>> >>> I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators >>> cannot >>> serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? >>> >>> Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members >>> of >>> the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The >>> NC >>> administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed >>> historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the >>> beginning of each term. >>> >>> If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list >>> administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any >>> capacity >>> within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project >>> will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project >>> volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this >>> motion. >>> >>> I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain >>> further? >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> To:<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>> Serve >>> onthe Grievance Committee >>> >>> >>>> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >>>> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >>>> future. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>>>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did >>>>> something >>>>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel >>>>> a >>>>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>>>> understand the why. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Pauli >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%3Cmailto:[email protected]>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>>>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>>>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>>>> 2009/10-27 >>>>> reads: >>>> >>>>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>>>> usgenweb-discuss be >>>>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>>>> Grievance >>>>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>>>> immediately. >>>> >>>>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >>>> >>>>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with >>>>> "No >>>>> discussion". >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, The State Coordinators are the moderators of the state's administrative list(s). The Standard Rules (Section V, subsection A) require that there MUST be a state coordinator on the committee (it doesn't state SC *or* ASC, it states SC). The wording of this motion causes a conflict with that Standard Rule. http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve on the Grievance Committee > Tina, > > I made no motion applying to any other committees. > > The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee > and NO other committees. > > I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) > since the region lists are administered by the AB members. > > Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of > lists. > > David > > On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: >> David, >> >> I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators >> cannot >> serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? >> >> Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members >> of >> the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The >> NC >> administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed >> historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the >> beginning of each term. >> >> If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list >> administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any >> capacity >> within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project >> will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project >> volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this >> motion. >> >> I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain >> further? >> >> Tina >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >> Serve >> onthe Grievance Committee >> >> >>> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >>> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >>> future. >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did >>>> something >>>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel >>>> a >>>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>>> understand the why. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Pauli >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>>> 2009/10-27 >>>> reads: >>> >>>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>>> usgenweb-discuss be >>>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>>> Grievance >>>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>>> immediately. >>> >>>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >>> >>>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with >>>> "No >>>> discussion". >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Since *when* did the AB decreed the state lists are property of the AB? David Samuelsen On 6/3/2010 10:55 AM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > David, > > The State Coordinators are the moderators of the state's administrative > list(s). The Standard Rules (Section V, subsection A) require that > there MUST be a state coordinator on the committee (it doesn't state SC > *or* ASC, it states SC). The wording of this motion causes a conflict > with that Standard Rule. > > http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml > > Tina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve > on the Grievance Committee > > >> Tina, >> >> I made no motion applying to any other committees. >> >> The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee >> and NO other committees. >> >> I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) >> since the region lists are administered by the AB members. >> >> Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of >> lists. >> >> David >> >> On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: >>> David, >>> >>> I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators >>> cannot >>> serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? >>> >>> Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members >>> of >>> the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The >>> NC >>> administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed >>> historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the >>> beginning of each term. >>> >>> If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list >>> administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any >>> capacity >>> within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project >>> will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project >>> volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this >>> motion. >>> >>> I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain >>> further? >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>> Serve >>> onthe Grievance Committee >>> >>> >>>> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >>>> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >>>> future. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>>>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did >>>>> something >>>>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel >>>>> a >>>>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>>>> understand the why. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Pauli >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>>>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>>>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>>>> 2009/10-27 >>>>> reads: >>>> >>>>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>>>> usgenweb-discuss be >>>>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>>>> Grievance >>>>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>>>> immediately. >>>> >>>>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >>>> >>>>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with >>>>> "No >>>>> discussion". >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

the motion does NOT apply to the state coordinators. You're confusing the motion with the state coordinators. The motion is very clear about the lists: usgenweb-discuss, usgenweb-se, usgenweb-sw, usgenweb-nw, usgenweb-ne and any other lists controlled or maintained under direction of the AB. David Samuelsen On 6/3/2010 10:55 AM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > David, > > The State Coordinators are the moderators of the state's administrative > list(s). The Standard Rules (Section V, subsection A) require that > there MUST be a state coordinator on the committee (it doesn't state SC > *or* ASC, it states SC). The wording of this motion causes a conflict > with that Standard Rule. > > http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/standard-rules.shtml > > Tina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve > on the Grievance Committee > > >> Tina, >> >> I made no motion applying to any other committees. >> >> The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee >> and NO other committees. >> >> I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) >> since the region lists are administered by the AB members. >> >> Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of >> lists. >> >> David >> >> On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: >>> David, >>> >>> I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators >>> cannot >>> serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? >>> >>> Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members >>> of >>> the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The >>> NC >>> administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed >>> historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the >>> beginning of each term. >>> >>> If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list >>> administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any >>> capacity >>> within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project >>> will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project >>> volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this >>> motion. >>> >>> I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain >>> further? >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> >>> To:<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>> Serve >>> onthe Grievance Committee >>> >>> >>>> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >>>> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >>>> future. >>>> >>>> David Samuelsen >>>> >>>> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>>>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did >>>>> something >>>>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel >>>>> a >>>>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>>>> understand the why. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Pauli >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>>>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>>>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>>>> 2009/10-27 >>>>> reads: >>>> >>>>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>>>> usgenweb-discuss be >>>>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>>>> Grievance >>>>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>>>> immediately. >>>> >>>>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >>>> >>>>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with >>>>> "No >>>>> discussion". >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No discussion. Colleen Pustola NWPL CC Rep On 6/2/2010 8:30 PM, Sherri wrote: > Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 > reads: > > > > "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be > dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance > Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. > > > > That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." > > > > Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

David, I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators cannot serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members of the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The NC administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the beginning of each term. If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any capacity within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this motion. I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain further? Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve onthe Grievance Committee > All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to > preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the > future. > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did something >> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel a >> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >> understand the why. >> >> Thanks, >> Pauli >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >> >> >> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >> 2009/10-27 >> reads: > >> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >> usgenweb-discuss be >> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >> Grievance >> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >> immediately. > >> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." > >> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No >> discussion". > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Tina, I made no motion applying to any other committees. The motion is very clear specifically applied to the Grievance Committee and NO other committees. I said nothing about regional lists (no mention of it in the motion) since the region lists are administered by the AB members. Currently there are no standing rules who may be admins/moderators of lists. David On 6/2/2010 7:40 PM, Vickery, Tina wrote: > David, > > I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators cannot > serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? > > Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members of > the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The NC > administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed > historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the > beginning of each term. > > If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list > administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any capacity > within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project > will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project > volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this > motion. > > I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain > further? > > Tina > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W David Samuelsen"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve > onthe Grievance Committee > > >> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >> future. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did something >>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel a >>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>> understand the why. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pauli >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>> >>> >>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>> 2009/10-27 >>> reads: >> >>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>> usgenweb-discuss be >>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>> Grievance >>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>> immediately. >> >>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >> >>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No >>> discussion". >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No discussion Ann Allen Geoghegan -------Original Message------- From: Linda K Lewis Date: 6/2/2010 8:01:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serveonthe Grievance Committee No discussion. Linda K. Lewis SWSC.CC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve onthe Grievance Committee Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 reads: "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Linda K. Lewis SWSC.CC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve onthe Grievance Committee Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 reads: "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No more discussion -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:31 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve onthe Grievance Committee Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 reads: "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org<http://usgenweb.org/>> http://usgenweb.org<http://usgenweb.org/> Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion from me. Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/2/2010 at 7:30 AM [email protected] wrote: >Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 >reads: > > > >"I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be >dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >Grievance >Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. > > > >That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." > > > >Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No >discussion". > > > > > >Sherri Bradley >National Coordinator >USGenWeb Project >Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> >http://usgenweb.org >Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > > >USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

As I read the motion, this only applies to those who are list moderators, who also serve in any way on the Grievance Committee--not to any other committees--standing or special. Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/2/2010 at 9:40 PM [email protected] wrote: >David, > >I assume your *global* concern is that USGenWeb list administrators cannot >serve in any capacity on Standing Committee or Special Committees? > >Regional mail lists are historically maintained by Advisory Board members >of >the applicable Region. SC's administer their XXGenWeb Project lists. The >NC >administers National lists and -Discuss administrators are appointed >historically with a general consent motion of the Advisory Board at the >beginning of each term. > >If your premise and intent with this motion is indeed that no list >administrators can serve on a Standing or Special Committees in any >capacity >within the USGenWeb Project, I will surely have, as I am sure the Project >will have discussion, as you have eliminated many, many USGenWeb Project >volunteers from ever serving on a Standing or Special Committee with this >motion. > >I still don't understand, and I don't want to assume. Can you explain >further? > >Tina > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "W David Samuelsen" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:04 PM >Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >Serve >onthe Grievance Committee > > >> All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to >> preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the >> future. >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: >>> I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did >something >>> happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel >a >>> need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to >>> understand the why. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pauli >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM >>> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That >>> Serve onthe Grievance Committee >>> >>> >>> Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion >>> 2009/10-27 >>> reads: >> >>> "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including >>> usgenweb-discuss be >>> dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the >>> Grievance >>> Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively >>> immediately. >> >>> That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." >> >>> Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No >>> discussion". >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > >USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Let's please move this discussion back to ABCHAT since there's a motion on the floor here on BOARD. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of DC & Alice Allen Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] Guidelines Review I have a proposed change: In case you weren't aware, there has been a lively discussion about the guidelines revisions on the SW list over the weekend, with one major complaint being that in these proposed guidelines, it will become a requirement for SC's and CC's alike to provide their full name, mailing address and telephone number to the NC. Now Sherri, would you really want to maintain a database of 1,500+ USGW members and their personal information? In the same paragraph it says that all coordinators must provide same to the State/Project Coordinator. The way it's written makes it sound like the requirement to provide personal data will apply to both SC's and CC's--sending their personal info to the NC AND the SC. The sentence referring to SC's sending to the NC needs to stand alone. IMHO, the reference to "coordinators must provide same to the State/Project coordinator to which she/he belongs" needs to be removed. If we're going to use this as a requirement (CC contacts to their SC's, etc), it needs to be separated out of the SC guidelines. And I haven't made up my mind yet as to whether the CC part should be a requirement or just a recommendation. Right now I don't see it being covered anywhere in the current CC guidelines, unless I've missed it. Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/1/2010 at 10:17 PM [email protected] wrote: >Trying to get back on track, we should be reviewing the CC Guidelines >document to approve it. > > > >The original document (with correction reference World Genweb) can be found >at http://usgenweb.org/temp-guidelines/Guidelines-FINAL.htm > > > >The document with references to any Special Project removed can be found at >http://usgenweb.org/temp-guidelines/Guidelines-5-23-10.htm > > > >You all tell me what you want to do - accept the original (with the >correction for the State Projects requiring a link to the WorldGenWeb >Project); make updates to the document to clarify the Special Projects >issues; remove all references to special project projects (as David >suggested); or make any additional changes/updates to the document. > > > >Sherri > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My apologies. The proper link for the agenda is http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php/ Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Adjorn May Convene June 2010 Session The May 2010 meeting of the USGenWeb Project Advisory Board is adjourned, the June 2010 meeting is convened. As a reminder, the working agenda is at http://usgenweb.org/business/agenda2.php. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The May 2010 meeting of the USGenWeb Project Advisory Board is adjourned, the June 2010 meeting is convened. As a reminder, the working agenda is at http://usgenweb.org/business/agenda2.php. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

All of you have a copy of the message now which prompted the motion to preempt any chance of tainting the Grievance Committee now and in the future. David Samuelsen On 6/2/2010 8:45 AM, Pauli Smith wrote: > I'm having trouble understanding the need for this motion. Did something happen? David, can you explain to me what is behind it and why you feel a need for it? I'm willing to look at both sides on this, I just need to understand the why. > > Thanks, > Pauli > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sherri<mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 5:30 AM > Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-27 Removal of List Moderators That Serve onthe Grievance Committee > > > Moved by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Linda Lewis, motion 2009/10-27 > reads: > "I move all moderators of any usgenweb lists including usgenweb-discuss be > dismissed from such positions if they are currently serving in the Grievance > Committee as member or as mediator or arbitrator effectively immediately. > That this rule be incorporated into the standing rules for the GC." > Discussion is open. If you have no discussion, please reply with "No > discussion".