Yea Jeff On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Sherri <[email protected]> wrote: > Moved by Dale Grimm and seconded by Tina Vickery and dated 5 June 2010, the > motion reads: "I move that the motion on the floor (2009/10-27) be > withdrawn." > > If you agree that the motion should be withdrawn, please respond with "yes" > or "yea". If you disagree with the withdrawal of the motion, please > respond > with "no" or "nay". > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

No Discussion Jeff On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Sherri <[email protected]> wrote: > Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, > the > motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or > weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please indicate such. > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, the messages crossed in transit. I had not received the notice that he was withdrawing before I sent this recognizing the motion. The cyber gremlins are having a field day with email tonight. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:08 PM To: [email protected]; sherri Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-29 Table the Agenda Item Les withdrew the motion before you could recognize it. David Samuelsen On 6/5/2010 8:03 PM, Sherri wrote: > Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, the > motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or > weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please indicate such. > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Larry Flesher ----- Original Message ---- From: Sherri <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 9:03:07 PM Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-29 Table the Agenda Item Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, the motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." Discussion is now open.  If you have no discussion, please indicate such. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at  <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda  <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, the motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please indicate such. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

Since my motion has not been recognized, I hereby withdraw it. Les Shockey Lesley L Shockey wrote: > I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or weeks until > pressing matters are dealt with. > > Les Shockey > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I withdraw my second to motion 2009/10-27 in favor of a clarified resubmision. Linda K. Lewis SWSC.CC -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:28 PM To: [email protected]; Sherri; Pauli Smith; Linda Lewis Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. W. David Samuelsen

I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or weeks until pressing matters are dealt with. Les Shockey

now what? David Samuelsen On 6/5/2010 8:18 PM, Sherri wrote: > Actually, the messages crossed in transit. I had not received the notice > that he was withdrawing before I sent this recognizing the motion. > > The cyber gremlins are having a field day with email tonight. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of W David Samuelsen > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:08 PM > To: [email protected]; sherri > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-29 Table the Agenda Item > > Les withdrew the motion before you could recognize it. > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/5/2010 8:03 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, > the >> motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or >> weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please indicate such. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley

Les withdrew the motion before you could recognize it. David Samuelsen On 6/5/2010 8:03 PM, Sherri wrote: > Presented by Les Shockey and seconded by Larry Flesher and dated 6/5/10, the > motion reads "I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or > weeks until pressing matters are dealt with." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please indicate such. > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I second this motion. Larry Flesher SWSC SC Rep ----- Original Message ---- From: Lesley L Shockey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 7:37:52 PM Subject: [BOARD] motion: Guidelines Document I move we table the Guidelines Document for a few days or weeks until pressing matters are dealt with. Les Shockey USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I never saw this motion, David. Denise Wells On Jun 5, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Sherri <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, David, I did NOT know. I won't repeat the reasons again - > no > sense in taking up bandwidth with the same thing over and over. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of W David Samuelsen > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:02 PM > To: [email protected]; Sherri; Pauli Smith; Linda Lewis; Tina Vickery > Subject: [BOARD] INVALID motion > > You can NOT vote on a motion that does not exist. > > Here is why. > > Sherri KNEW! Here is the message. She sat on it. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:27:37 -0600 > From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Sherri <[email protected]>, Pauli > Smith > <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> > > I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. > > With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon > completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. > > W. David Samuelsen > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

David I fail to understand how you can accuse Sherri of setting on any messages. Are you the only AB member who is permitted to have email or computer problems? You stated earlier this afternoon: "And it's not first time I didn't get any from the Board itself. 2nd time in 2 weeks. First one was Motion 2009/10-27 to the Board by Sherri and a subscriber notified me few hours later it had been on the Board. I had to go all the way to the archived Board message site to find it. " If you found a message in the archives that you did not receive, is that not proof that the email system can fail at times and messages do not arrive as they should? You also offered to withdraw your motion but attached conditions to the withdrawal. As I pointed out privately Sturgis does not show where conditions can be made regarding withdrawal of a motion. Sturgis also requires that we address other members of the Board with respect. Les W David Samuelsen wrote: > You can NOT vote on a motion that does not exist. > > Here is why. > > Sherri KNEW! Here is the message. She sat on it. > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:27:37 -0600 > From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Sherri <[email protected]>, Pauli Smith > <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> > > I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. > > With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon > completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. > > W. David Samuelsen > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, David, I did NOT know. I won't repeat the reasons again - no sense in taking up bandwidth with the same thing over and over. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:02 PM To: [email protected]; Sherri; Pauli Smith; Linda Lewis; Tina Vickery Subject: [BOARD] INVALID motion You can NOT vote on a motion that does not exist. Here is why. Sherri KNEW! Here is the message. She sat on it. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:27:37 -0600 From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Sherri <[email protected]>, Pauli Smith <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. W. David Samuelsen USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My apologies to all of you - as I've stated more than once, I've still got issues with my internet access and email. David, I find nothing in Sturgis that refers to allowing a motion to be withdrawn with conditions applied to that withdrawal. Unless you can provide a reference that would allow that conditions to be applied to the withdrawal of a motion, the conditions that you are attempting to apply to the withdrawal of this motion will not be recognized. It is your choice now if you want to withdraw the motion without conditions or if you want to carry it through to a vote. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 3:28 PM To: [email protected]; Sherri; Pauli Smith; Linda Lewis Subject: [BOARD] Withdrawal of Motion for clarification I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. W. David Samuelsen USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mistake earlier, the motion can only be withdrawn by the author. Therefore, this motion is out of order and will be stricken from the record. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-28 Withdrawal of Motion 2009/10-27 Moved by Dale Grimm and seconded by Tina Vickery and dated 5 June 2010, the motion reads: "I move that the motion on the floor (2009/10-27) be withdrawn." If you agree that the motion should be withdrawn, please respond with "yes" or "yea". If you disagree with the withdrawal of the motion, please respond with "no" or "nay". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is what I told Les when he asked me much earlier. "You're correct, it is not in Sturgis but it is in Roberts. Guess I was more accustomed to Roberts." It is withdrawn anyway. David On 6/5/2010 1:16 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, I find nothing in Sturgis that refers to allowing a motion to be > withdrawn with conditions applied to that withdrawal. Unless you can > provide a reference that would allow that conditions to be applied to the > withdrawal of a motion, the conditions that you are attempting to apply to > the withdrawal of this motion will not be recognized. > > It is your choice now if you want to withdraw the motion without conditions > or if you want to carry it through to a vote.

David, I can find nothing in Sturgis that permits placing reservations or conditions on the withdrawal of a motion. Also, as far as I can determine, the sending of private email to other Board members does not constitute a motion to the Board. Any formal motion needs to be sent to the proper Board email list. Assuming something is happening is never a good policy. I believe that Sherri has mentioned the problems with her new computer sufficiently in the past few days that all AB members should have been aware of the problems it was causing with her email. Les W David Samuelsen wrote: > Sherri, > > No. You can not act on a motion to withdraw a non-existent motion. > > I meant to send to every one on the board with this message to withdraw > below. > > Sherri sat on it and is still sitting on it. You owe everybody big > apology, for sitting on it. (Pauli, you too since you already received > it and did not try to stop a motion to withdraw a non-existent motion.) > > Here is the message sent yesterday, showing it was already withdrawn. > > David Samuelsen > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:27:37 -0600 > From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Sherri <[email protected]>, Pauli Smith > <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> > > I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. > > With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon > completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. > > W. David Samuelsen > > > On 6/5/2010 9:09 AM, Sherri wrote: >> Moved by Dale Grimm and seconded by Tina Vickery and dated 5 June >> 2010, the >> motion reads: "I move that the motion on the floor (2009/10-27) be >> withdrawn." >> >> If you agree that the motion should be withdrawn, please respond with >> "yes" >> or "yea". If you disagree with the withdrawal of the motion, please >> respond >> with "no" or "nay". >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

Point of Order. A motion to withdraw must be made by the person who made the original motion. (Sturgis page 94.) Les Shockey Sherri wrote: > Moved by Dale Grimm and seconded by Tina Vickery and dated 5 June 2010, the > motion reads: "I move that the motion on the floor (2009/10-27) be > withdrawn." > > If you agree that the motion should be withdrawn, please respond with "yes" > or "yea". If you disagree with the withdrawal of the motion, please respond > with "no" or "nay". > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, Did you not see Sherri's post about 2 hours ago that she was having e-mail problems? I don't think she is deliberately sitting on anything. We all know how quirky email can be and we also know how erratic Rootsweb can be with sending things through the mailing lists. AnnieG -------Original Message------- From: W David Samuelsen Date: 6/5/2010 12:13:08 PM To: [email protected]; Sherri; Tina Vickery; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC & Alice Allen; Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; [email protected]; Linda Lewis; [email protected]; [email protected]; USGenWeb-NE; USGenWeb-NW Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-28 Withdrawal of Motion 2009/10-27 Sherri, No. You can not act on a motion to withdraw a non-existent motion. I meant to send to every one on the board with this message to withdraw Below. Sherri sat on it and is still sitting on it. You owe everybody big Apology, for sitting on it. (Pauli, you too since you already received It and did not try to stop a motion to withdraw a non-existent motion.) Here is the message sent yesterday, showing it was already withdrawn. David Samuelsen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Withdrawal of Motion for clarification Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:27:37 -0600 From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> To: [email protected], Sherri <[email protected]>, Pauli Smith <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> I hereby withdraw the motion for clarifying the motion itself. With reservations it be returned to the floor without delay upon Completion of another motion dealing with the uproar over Guidelines. W. David Samuelsen On 6/5/2010 9:09 AM, Sherri wrote: > Moved by Dale Grimm and seconded by Tina Vickery and dated 5 June 2010, the > motion reads: "I move that the motion on the floor (2009/10-27) be > withdrawn." > > If you agree that the motion should be withdrawn, please respond with "yes > or "yea". If you disagree with the withdrawal of the motion, please respond > with "no" or "nay". > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >