Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> Sherri =============== Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

No discussion. AnnieG -------Original Message------- From: Sherri Date: 6/17/2010 9:58:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the Sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> Sherri =============== Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings Effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway Are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no Discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Alice *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/17/2010 at 10:58 PM [email protected] wrote: >Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the >sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> > > > >Sherri > > > >=============== > > > >Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >are over." > > > >Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no >discussion". > > > > > >Sherri Bradley >National Coordinator >USGenWeb Project >Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > >USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion Pauli Smith -------Original Message------- From: Sherri Date: 6/17/2010 9:58:12 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the Sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> Sherri =============== Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings Effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway Are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no Discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org<http://usgenweb.org/> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sherri, still not satisfied. You have NOT asked for consent. You have no problems with other motions I had. David Samuelsen On 6/17/2010 9:10 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, > > The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you > wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you > think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't > include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in > the message where you presented the motion. > > I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was > included when I copied and pasted from your message. The > explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. > > Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please > indicate so. > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC& Alice Allen; > Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; > [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda > Lewis > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the > motion I made and seconded by another AB. > > You altered the motion too much. > > Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is > very specific. > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> no discussion >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway >>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>> >>> >>> >>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no >>> discussion". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

No discussion. Larry Flesher SWSC SC Rep ----- Original Message ---- From: Sherri <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 9:58:17 PM Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion.  Seems the sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> Sherri =============== Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open.  If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a motion "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." This is discussion and opinion "This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project." You cannot add discussion and opinions to a motion because we cannot act on them. Dale On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:49:11 -0400, Lesley Shockey <[email protected]> wrote: > I was under the impression that a motion was to be concise and clearly > state the objective of the motion. Opinions and side comments should > not be a part of a motion. > > My opinion differs greatly from your stated opinion as I thought the > biggest threat to possibly causing the lose of good CCs were the many > postings by persons involved with other projects who try to use > distortions and outright lies to entice people to leave this Project and > join these other projects. It is the same thing this time of year every > year with basically the same themes every June and July. > > This shows how opinions can differ widely. > > Les > > W David Samuelsen wrote: >> I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the >> motion I made and seconded by another AB. >> >> You altered the motion too much. >> >> Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is >> very specific. >> >> I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. >> >> This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the >> hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election >> opponents at earliest possible time. >> >> The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good >> number of the CCs to leave the Project. >> >> W. David Samuelsen >> SWSC >> >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >>> no discussion >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and >>>> dated >>>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be >>>> underway >>>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective >>>> immediately >>>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond >>>> with "no >>>> discussion". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sherri Bradley >>>> National Coordinator >>>> USGenWeb Project >>>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>>> http://usgenweb.org >>>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>

I second the motion. Colleen Pustola NWPL CC Rep On 6/16/2010 7:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC >

I was under the impression that a motion was to be concise and clearly state the objective of the motion. Opinions and side comments should not be a part of a motion. My opinion differs greatly from your stated opinion as I thought the biggest threat to possibly causing the lose of good CCs were the many postings by persons involved with other projects who try to use distortions and outright lies to entice people to leave this Project and join these other projects. It is the same thing this time of year every year with basically the same themes every June and July. This shows how opinions can differ widely. Les W David Samuelsen wrote: > I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the > motion I made and seconded by another AB. > > You altered the motion too much. > > Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is > very specific. > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> no discussion >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and >>> dated >>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be >>> underway >>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective >>> immediately >>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>> >>> >>> >>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond >>> with "no >>> discussion". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

Sherri does have a job. She is at work. She has received your message and you will have an answer tonight. It may be late because she also has a life. Ann Allen Geoghegan NWPL CC Rep -------Original Message------- From: W David Samuelsen Date: 06/17/10 07:33:09 To: usgenweb-NW Subject: [USGENWEB-NW] Fwd: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension ofHearings Please note Sherri has not acknowledged earlier message and ignored it. David Samuelsen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:31:18 -0600 From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] CC: Sherri <[email protected]>, Sherri Bradley <[email protected]>, Cyndie Enfinger <[email protected]>, Dale Grimm <[email protected]>, DC & Alice Allen <[email protected]>, Pauli Smith <[email protected]>, Bill <[email protected]>, Colleen Pustola <[email protected]>, 'AnnieG' <[email protected]>, Les Shockey <[email protected]>, [email protected], Denise Wells <[email protected]>, Larry Flesher <[email protected]>, W David Samuelsen <[email protected]>, Linda Lewis <[email protected]> I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the Motion I made and seconded by another AB. You altered the motion too much. Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is Very specific. I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately Until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the Hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election Opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good Number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC David Samuelsen On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > no discussion > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >> are over. Move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Larry, not in any of organizations I have been in. I find it interesting she doesn't do to any of other ABs and still does to me. David On 6/17/2010 7:26 AM, Larry Flesher wrote: > David- > > In any organization in which I have participated as a member, the chair almost always summarizes or restates a motion, deleting the editoral content which the maker may have included to explain his/her reasons for making the motion. Then the membership of the organization votes on the intent of the motion, as summarized or restated by the chair. > > In the instant case, I believe the first paragraph of your stated motion clearly establishes what should happen if the membership votes in favor of the motion. The other material is explanatory, and is not necessary for voting on the motion. > > Do you agree with the above statement? > > Larry Flesher > SWSC SC Rep > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: W David Samuelsen<[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; Sherri<[email protected]>; Sherri Bradley<[email protected]>; Tina Vickery<[email protected]>; Cyndie Enfinger<[email protected]>; Dale Grimm<[email protected]>; DC& Alice Allen<[email protected]>; Pauli Smith<[email protected]>; Bill<[email protected]>; Colleen Pustola<[email protected]>; AnnieG<[email protected]>; Les Shockey<[email protected]>; [email protected]; Denise Wells<[email protected]>; Larry Flesher<[email protected]>; W David Samuelsen<[email protected]>; Linda Lewis<[email protected]> > Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 11:45:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > Sherri! > > I just noticed YOU ALTERED the motion without consent. > > Please restate the original motion which is this: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276639201 > and seconded by Colleen Pustola > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276748047 > The exact wording: > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > You have no authority to alter any part of motions without consent from > the original maker. > > > > > David > > On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > >

Oops, forgot to add *no discussion* before I hit the *send* button. Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/17/2010 at 6:26 AM [email protected] wrote: >David- > >In any organization in which I have participated as a member, the chair >almost always summarizes or restates a motion, deleting the editoral >content which the maker may have included to explain his/her reasons for >making the motion. Then the membership of the organization votes on the >intent of the motion, as summarized or restated by the chair. > >In the instant case, I believe the first paragraph of your stated motion >clearly establishes what should happen if the membership votes in favor of >the motion. The other material is explanatory, and is not necessary for >voting on the motion. > >Do you agree with the above statement? > >Larry Flesher >SWSC SC Rep > > >

I can agree with this, Larry, but it does look pretty silly the way it is currently written. Like there was an extra *paste" or something. Has anyone really looked at the way it is stated? The second sentence is a repeat of the first. Is there a way to just wipe out the second sentence? Or does the motion have to be re-stated, correctly? Alice NENC CC Rep *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 6/17/2010 at 6:26 AM [email protected] wrote: >David- > >In any organization in which I have participated as a member, the chair >almost always summarizes or restates a motion, deleting the editoral >content which the maker may have included to explain his/her reasons for >making the motion. Then the membership of the organization votes on the >intent of the motion, as summarized or restated by the chair. > >In the instant case, I believe the first paragraph of your stated motion >clearly establishes what should happen if the membership votes in favor of >the motion. The other material is explanatory, and is not necessary for >voting on the motion. > >Do you agree with the above statement? > >Larry Flesher >SWSC SC Rep > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected]; Sherri <[email protected]>; Sherri Bradley ><[email protected]>; Tina Vickery <[email protected]>; Cyndie >Enfinger <[email protected]>; Dale Grimm <[email protected]>; DC & >Alice Allen <[email protected]>; Pauli Smith <[email protected]>; Bill ><[email protected]>; Colleen Pustola <[email protected]>; >AnnieG <[email protected]>; Les Shockey <[email protected]>; >[email protected]; Denise Wells <[email protected]>; Larry Flesher ><[email protected]>; W David Samuelsen <[email protected]>; Linda Lewis ><[email protected]> >Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 11:45:35 PM >Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > >Sherri! > >I just noticed YOU ALTERED the motion without consent. > >Please restate the original motion which is this: >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276639201 >and seconded by Colleen Pustola >http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276748047 >The exact wording: >I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > >This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the >hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election >opponents at earliest possible time. > >The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good >number of the CCs to leave the Project. > >W. David Samuelsen >SWSC > > >You have no authority to alter any part of motions without consent from >the original maker. > > > > >David > >On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be >underway >> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open.  If you have no discussion, please respond with >"no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > >USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the motion I made and seconded by another AB. You altered the motion too much. Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is very specific. I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC David Samuelsen On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > no discussion > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

David- In any organization in which I have participated as a member, the chair almost always summarizes or restates a motion, deleting the editoral content which the maker may have included to explain his/her reasons for making the motion. Then the membership of the organization votes on the intent of the motion, as summarized or restated by the chair. In the instant case, I believe the first paragraph of your stated motion clearly establishes what should happen if the membership votes in favor of the motion. The other material is explanatory, and is not necessary for voting on the motion. Do you agree with the above statement? Larry Flesher SWSC SC Rep ----- Original Message ---- From: W David Samuelsen <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; Sherri <[email protected]>; Sherri Bradley <[email protected]>; Tina Vickery <[email protected]>; Cyndie Enfinger <[email protected]>; Dale Grimm <[email protected]>; DC & Alice Allen <[email protected]>; Pauli Smith <[email protected]>; Bill <[email protected]>; Colleen Pustola <[email protected]>; AnnieG <[email protected]>; Les Shockey <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Denise Wells <[email protected]>; Larry Flesher <[email protected]>; W David Samuelsen <[email protected]>; Linda Lewis <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 11:45:35 PM Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Sherri! I just noticed YOU ALTERED the motion without consent. Please restate the original motion which is this: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276639201 and seconded by Colleen Pustola http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276748047 The exact wording: I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC You have no authority to alter any part of motions without consent from the original maker. David On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." > > > > Discussion is now open.  If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No discussion. Larry Flesher SWSC SC Rep ----- Original Message ---- From: Sherri <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 11:22:46 PM Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open.  If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at  <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda  <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

I second the motion. Colleen Pustola NWPL CC Rep Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:00:01 -0400 [06:00:01 PM EDT] > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Cc: Alice Allen <[email protected]>, [email protected], > Colleen <[email protected]>, [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Subject: Suspension of hearings > Headers: Show All Headers > > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC >

Sherri! I just noticed YOU ALTERED the motion without consent. Please restate the original motion which is this: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276639201 and seconded by Colleen Pustola http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOARD/2010-06/1276748047 The exact wording: I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC You have no authority to alter any part of motions without consent from the original maker. David On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

no discussion David Samuelsen On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >