Having heard no additional discussion on motion 2009/10-30, discussion is declared closed. Please vote on motion 2009/10-30. If you agree with suspension of the currently announced disciplinary hearing, please respond with "yes" or "yea". If you disagree with the suspension of the currently announced disciplinary hearing, please respond with "no" or "nay". Voting will continue until 9:00 pm EDT on 21 June 2010 unless completed earlier. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

Let's try this again http://usgenweb.org/business/AB-05-2010.shtml Sherri -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesley L Shockey Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] May 2010 Advisory Board Minutes Sherri, the link did not work for me. I received a 404 Not Found error was encountered. Les Sherri wrote: > The May 2010 minutes have been posted for review at > http://usgenweb.org/business/AB-0-2010.shtml. If there is no objection, > they will stand as approved on 22 June 2010 at 4:30 pm. > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sherri, the link did not work for me. I received a 404 Not Found error was encountered. Les Sherri wrote: > The May 2010 minutes have been posted for review at > http://usgenweb.org/business/AB-0-2010.shtml. If there is no objection, > they will stand as approved on 22 June 2010 at 4:30 pm. > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> > http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> > http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The May 2010 minutes have been posted for review at http://usgenweb.org/business/AB-0-2010.shtml. If there is no objection, they will stand as approved on 22 June 2010 at 4:30 pm. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

For the record: The AB's discussion on the appeal of grievance 2010-02-27 will commence on 24 June. I've requested a copy of the decision that the parties appealing the decision received, as well as a statement of what Grievance Committee procedure(s) they feel were not followed when the Grievance Committee arrived at the final decision. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php

No Discussion Dale > Is there any further discussion on this motion? > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of W David Samuelsen > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:16 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > continue with the motion - Sturgis 17. "...relate to the members and to > the organization." > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/18/2010 11:39 PM, Sherri wrote: >> David, the difference between this motion and both the Guidelines >> Document >> and the Grievance Procedures updates motions were both items on the > agenda. >> They'd waited their turn and made it to the top of the list. Discussion > had >> been held on both, so no explanation of what the intent was and no > personal >> opinion had a need to be in either of the motions. Not so with this >> one, > on >> either count. The grievance procedures updates were postponed because > there >> was a time line that we were working under to name the NWPL SC >> representative replacement, the permanent board secretary had resigned >> and >> we needed to name a new one and the guidelines document approval needed >> to >> be vetted against the election committee procedures to ensure that the >> EC >> procedures aligned with the guidelines document. >> >> As for the guidelines document discussion, that discussion was postponed >> with motion 2009/10-29. >> >> Quite honestly, I should have declared the motion out of order because >> it >> did not go through the process of being placed on the agenda and waiting > its >> turn to get addressed. I did not because I didn't want to deal with the >> accusations that I was not recognizing it because I wanted to be sure to >> control the meeting by ensuring that the hearing didn't get postponed. >> >> It's up to you - the motion can stand as is (which is correctly >> presented) >> or it can be declared out of order and the item be put on the agenda and > it >> waits its turn. >> >> Sherri > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there any further discussion on this motion? Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of W David Samuelsen Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 2:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings continue with the motion - Sturgis 17. "...relate to the members and to the organization." David Samuelsen On 6/18/2010 11:39 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, the difference between this motion and both the Guidelines Document > and the Grievance Procedures updates motions were both items on the agenda. > They'd waited their turn and made it to the top of the list. Discussion had > been held on both, so no explanation of what the intent was and no personal > opinion had a need to be in either of the motions. Not so with this one, on > either count. The grievance procedures updates were postponed because there > was a time line that we were working under to name the NWPL SC > representative replacement, the permanent board secretary had resigned and > we needed to name a new one and the guidelines document approval needed to > be vetted against the election committee procedures to ensure that the EC > procedures aligned with the guidelines document. > > As for the guidelines document discussion, that discussion was postponed > with motion 2009/10-29. > > Quite honestly, I should have declared the motion out of order because it > did not go through the process of being placed on the agenda and waiting its > turn to get addressed. I did not because I didn't want to deal with the > accusations that I was not recognizing it because I wanted to be sure to > control the meeting by ensuring that the hearing didn't get postponed. > > It's up to you - the motion can stand as is (which is correctly presented) > or it can be declared out of order and the item be put on the agenda and it > waits its turn. > > Sherri

The resolution of the disciplinary hearing against Dennis Gries. This resolution is hereby adopted, effective Wednesday, 16 June 2010. ============== The USGenWeb Advisory Board issues this finding in response to the charges brought against Mr. Gries relevant to Grievance 2009-08-15. Charge: Refusal to participate in good faith in the mediation and arbitration phases of grievance 2009-08-15, filed by Ms. Laverne Tornow against six individual FLGenWeb board members, as demonstrated by attempts to introduce issues outside of the scope of the mediation and arbitration portions of the grievance, raising repeated objections to questions posed by both the mediator and the arbitrators and refusing to answer specific questions posed by the grievance committee team and the insistence that the USGenWeb Project's Grievance Process was not the proper venue to handle a grievance, that all grievances must be filed in a court of law in the state of Florida. Finding: We find that the Grievance Committee reviewed concerns brought to the Committee by Mr. Gries and the Grievance Committee not only responded to each concern, but consulted the National Coordinator for clarification of procedures which state: "It shall be the responsibility of the parties to the dispute to raise the issue of bias or conflict by a member of the team. This shall be done privately to the mediator, or the committee member if the conflict is alleged against the mediator. All claims of bias or conflict must be raised prior to the beginning of the mediation process. If an objection should be raised to a team member, that member shall be dismissed and a new team member appointed without the necessity for any proof of bias or prejudice. The identity of the party raising the objection shall not be revealed to any team member. Once the team is seated and the process initiated, no further objection may be raised as to partiality, bias, or conflict, and a team member may only be removed on his or her own request." Evidence presented clearly demonstrated that Mr. Gries stated that he would continue to reject any and all mediators that were assigned and once these hurdles appeared addressed Mr. Gries continued to make assertions that had previously been addressed within the confines of the above stated procedure and it was clearly demonstrated by presented evidence his actions to continue to dispute after the team began their work. Charge: Repeated breaches of the confidentiality of the grievance, despite repeated warnings during both the mediation and arbitration phases of the grievance process by contacting those outside of the mediator, the arbitrators and the GC representative handling the grievance. Finding: It is the Advisory Board's finding that multiple breaches occurred by multiple individuals party to this grievance and those breaches will be addressed by the Advisory Board separately. Regardless of others' breaches of confidentiality, the evidence has clearly demonstrated that Mr. Gries mindfully and purposefully engaged in and originated confidentiality breaches and that his breaches were prohibited within the process and procedures where he was a named participant. In doing so, the process was compromised for all parties involved with the grievance. Charge: Mr. Gries' insistence during the grievance process that he was not a member of the USGenWeb Project, despite being a member of the FLGenWeb Project, and as such, the USGenWeb Project's bylaws did not apply to him, and that the grievance process was an illegal attempt to circumvent the FL Corporate laws. Finding: The Grievance procedures are a member approved USGenWeb Process in adherence with its bylaws. As FLGenWeb had no local procedure for grievances and was a member of the USGenWeb project as evidenced by their being linked to from the USGenWeb National site and their use of the USGenWeb logo, they are bound to the rules which that membership implies. Those rules allow for grievances by a USGenWeb Project member against another USGenWeb Project member located within the same State or Special Project when there is no local Grievance Procedure to follow in that State or Special Project. Furthermore, a grievant can file a grievance against one or more persons. There is no requirement that it be filed against an entity in the case of incorporation. The evidence presented indicated that Mr. Gries withdrew his statement that he/FLGenWeb was/were not a part of the USGenWeb Project as the grievance proceeded. He did not, however, drop the contention that the grievance must be handled in a court of law according to FL corporate law. Therefore, The USGenWeb Advisory Board, in a closed-session hearing of charges against Dennis Gries, has found Mr. Gries to be responsible for each of the charges against him. It is the decision of the Advisory Board that he is hereby: Beginning retroactive to May 12, 2010 the date of the FLGenWeb Resolution of Grievance http://www.usgenweb.org/business/AB-05-2010.shtml#a73 , Mr. Gries will be considered "on probation" within the USGenWeb Project for a period of 5 years. He may not run for, serve, hold, or be appointed to any position higher than the Local Coordinator level in any state or special project, or the national project. AB Members voting "Accept": Ann Allen Geoghegan, Cyndie Enfinger, Dale Grimm, Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Linda Lewis, Tina Vickery, Pauli Smith AB Members voting "Reject": Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola AB Members abstaining from the vote: Bill Oliver? AB Members not present at the hearing: W. David Samuelson? Sincerely, Tina Vickery, Representative at Large - Chair of Disciplinary Hearing

The resolution of the disciplinary hearing against Fran Smith. This resolution is hereby adopted, effective Wednesday, 16 June 2010. ============== The USGenWeb Advisory Board issues this finding in response to the charges brought against Ms. Smith relevant to Grievance 2009-08-15. Charge: Refusal to participate in good faith in the mediation and arbitration phases of grievance 2009-08-15, filed by Ms. Laverne Tornow against six individual FLGenWeb board members, as demonstrated by attempts to introduce issues outside of the scope of the mediation and arbitration portions of the grievance, raising repeated objections to questions posed by both the mediator and the arbitrators and refusing to answer specific questions posed by the grievance committee team and the insistence that the USGenWeb Project's Grievance Process was not the proper venue to handle a grievance, that all grievances must be filed in a court of law in the state of Florida. Finding: We find that the Grievance Committee reviewed concerns brought to the Committee by Ms. Smith and the Grievance Committee not only responded to each concern, but consulted the National Coordinator for clarification of procedures which state: "It shall be the responsibility of the parties to the dispute to raise the issue of bias or conflict by a member of the team. This shall be done privately to the mediator, or the committee member if the conflict is alleged against the mediator. All claims of bias or conflict must be raised prior to the beginning of the mediation process. If an objection should be raised to a team member, that member shall be dismissed and a new team member appointed without the necessity for any proof of bias or prejudice. The identity of the party raising the objection shall not be revealed to any team member. Once the team is seated and the process initiated, no further objection may be raised as to partiality, bias, or conflict, and a team member may only be removed on his or her own request." Evidence presented clearly demonstrated that Ms. Smith continued to make assertions that had previously been addressed within the confines of the above stated procedure and it was clearly demonstrated by presented evidence her actions to continue to dispute after the team began their work. Charge: Repeated breaches of the confidentiality of the grievance, despite repeated warnings during both the mediation and arbitration phases of the grievance process by contacting those outside of the mediator, the arbitrators and the GC representative handling the grievance. Finding: It is the Advisory Board's finding that multiple breaches occurred by multiple individuals party to this grievance and those breaches will be addressed by the Advisory Board separately. Regardless of others' breaches of confidentiality, the evidence has clearly demonstrated that Ms. Smith mindfully and purposefully engaged in and originated confidentiality breaches and that her breaches were prohibited within the process and procedures where she was a named participant. In doing so, the process was compromised for all parties involved with the grievance. Charge: Failure to reinstate Ms. Laverne Tornow to all previous positions as County Coordinator for the counties of Alachua, Baker, Bradford, Citrus, Hamilton, LaFayette, Marion, Pasco, Pinellas, Seminole and Union counties that she held immediately prior to her removal from the project as directed in the final report of the Grievance Committee's final decision. The USGenWeb Project bylaws and the Grievance Committee Procedures clearly state that the decision of the Grievance Committee is binding upon all members of the USGenWeb Project, therefore Ms. Smith is not in compliance with the bylaws as Ms. Tornow has not been reinstated. Finding: The AB was forced to take the action of delinking FLGenWeb in order to uphold the bylaws of the USGenWeb Project, Section VI, Subsection E which states: "The Advisory Board shall also have the responsibility to remove links from the national website, as appropriate, to websites which fail to meet the established guidelines/standards for The USGenWeb Project or to websites which display inappropriate content. Coordinators of any websites found to be in non-compliance shall be notified of such and shall be given a period of two (2) weeks in which to bring their website into compliance. The two-week time limit shall be flexible based on justifiable reasons presented by the website coordinator." Therefore, the USGenWeb Advisory Board, in a closed-session hearing of charges against Fran Smith, has found Ms. Smith to be responsible for each of the charges against her. It is the decision of the Advisory Board that Beginning retroactive to May 12, 2010 the date of the FLGenWeb Resolution of Grievance http://www.usgenweb.org/business/AB-05-2010.shtml#a73 , Ms. Smith will be considered "on probation" within the USGenWeb Project for a period of 5 years. She may not run for, serve, hold, or be appointed to any position higher than the Local Coordinator level in any state or special project, or the national project. AB Members voting "Accept": Ann Allen Geoghegan, Cyndie Enfinger, Dale Grimm, Denise Wells, Jeff Kemp, Larry Flesher, Les Shockey, Linda Lewis, Tina Vickery, Pauli Smith AB Members voting "Reject": Alice Allen, Colleen Pustola AB Members abstaining from the vote: Bill Oliver? AB Members not present at the hearing: W. David Samuelson? Sincerely, Tina Vickery, Representative at Large - Chair of Disciplinary Hearing

David, the difference between this motion and both the Guidelines Document and the Grievance Procedures updates motions were both items on the agenda. They'd waited their turn and made it to the top of the list. Discussion had been held on both, so no explanation of what the intent was and no personal opinion had a need to be in either of the motions. Not so with this one, on either count. The grievance procedures updates were postponed because there was a time line that we were working under to name the NWPL SC representative replacement, the permanent board secretary had resigned and we needed to name a new one and the guidelines document approval needed to be vetted against the election committee procedures to ensure that the EC procedures aligned with the guidelines document. As for the guidelines document discussion, that discussion was postponed with motion 2009/10-29. Quite honestly, I should have declared the motion out of order because it did not go through the process of being placed on the agenda and waiting its turn to get addressed. I did not because I didn't want to deal with the accusations that I was not recognizing it because I wanted to be sure to control the meeting by ensuring that the hearing didn't get postponed. It's up to you - the motion can stand as is (which is correctly presented) or it can be declared out of order and the item be put on the agenda and it waits its turn. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:53 PM To: Sherri Cc: [email protected]; 'Sherri'; 'Cyndie Enfinger'; 'Dale Grimm'; 'DC & Alice Allen'; 'Pauli Smith'; 'Bill'; 'Colleen Pustola'; 'AnnieG'; 'Les Shockey'; [email protected]; 'Denise Wells'; 'Larry Flesher'; 'Linda Lewis' Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Sherri, still not satisfied. You have NOT asked for consent. You have no problems with other motions I had. David Samuelsen On 6/17/2010 9:10 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, > > The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you > wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you > think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't > include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in > the message where you presented the motion. > > I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was > included when I copied and pasted from your message. The > explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. > > Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please > indicate so. > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC& Alice Allen; > Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; > [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda > Lewis > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the > motion I made and seconded by another AB. > > You altered the motion too much. > > Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is > very specific. > > I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately > until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. > > This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the > hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election > opponents at earliest possible time. > > The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good > number of the CCs to leave the Project. > > W. David Samuelsen > SWSC > > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >> no discussion >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway >>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>> >>> >>> >>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no >>> discussion". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sherri Bradley >>> National Coordinator >>> USGenWeb Project >>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>> http://usgenweb.org >>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

continue with the motion - Sturgis 17. "...relate to the members and to the organization." David Samuelsen On 6/18/2010 11:39 PM, Sherri wrote: > David, the difference between this motion and both the Guidelines Document > and the Grievance Procedures updates motions were both items on the agenda. > They'd waited their turn and made it to the top of the list. Discussion had > been held on both, so no explanation of what the intent was and no personal > opinion had a need to be in either of the motions. Not so with this one, on > either count. The grievance procedures updates were postponed because there > was a time line that we were working under to name the NWPL SC > representative replacement, the permanent board secretary had resigned and > we needed to name a new one and the guidelines document approval needed to > be vetted against the election committee procedures to ensure that the EC > procedures aligned with the guidelines document. > > As for the guidelines document discussion, that discussion was postponed > with motion 2009/10-29. > > Quite honestly, I should have declared the motion out of order because it > did not go through the process of being placed on the agenda and waiting its > turn to get addressed. I did not because I didn't want to deal with the > accusations that I was not recognizing it because I wanted to be sure to > control the meeting by ensuring that the hearing didn't get postponed. > > It's up to you - the motion can stand as is (which is correctly presented) > or it can be declared out of order and the item be put on the agenda and it > waits its turn. > > Sherri > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:53 PM > To: Sherri > Cc: [email protected]; 'Sherri'; 'Cyndie Enfinger'; 'Dale Grimm'; 'DC& > Alice Allen'; 'Pauli Smith'; 'Bill'; 'Colleen Pustola'; 'AnnieG'; 'Les > Shockey'; [email protected]; 'Denise Wells'; 'Larry Flesher'; 'Linda Lewis' > Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > Sherri, > still not satisfied. > > You have NOT asked for consent. You have no problems with other motions > I had. > > David Samuelsen > > > On 6/17/2010 9:10 PM, Sherri wrote: >> David, >> >> The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you >> wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you >> think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't >> include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included > in >> the message where you presented the motion. >> >> I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was >> included when I copied and pasted from your message. The >> explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. >> >> Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please >> indicate so. >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC& Alice Allen; >> Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; >> [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda >> Lewis >> Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings >> >> I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the >> motion I made and seconded by another AB. >> >> You altered the motion too much. >> >> Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is >> very specific. >> >> I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. >> >> This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the >> hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election >> opponents at earliest possible time. >> >> The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good >> number of the CCs to leave the Project. >> >> W. David Samuelsen >> SWSC >> >> >> David Samuelsen >> >> On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: >>> no discussion >>> >>> David Samuelsen >>> >>> On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >>>> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and > dated >>>> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >>>> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be >> underway >>>> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective > immediately >>>> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with >> "no >>>> discussion". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sherri Bradley >>>> National Coordinator >>>> USGenWeb Project >>>> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >>>> http://usgenweb.org >>>> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >>>> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in >> the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in >> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hearing should take place election or no election! Jeff Kemp On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Bill <[email protected]> wrote: > 'siyo, > > No Discussion. > > Sgi, > > Bill Oliver > -=- > > Sherri wrote: > > Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the > > sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> > > > > > > > > Sherri > > > > > > > > =============== > > > > > > > > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway > > are over." > > > > > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no > > discussion". > > > > > > > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > > National Coordinator > > USGenWeb Project > > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

No Discussion. Cyndie SP Rep. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at <http://usgenweb.org> http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda <http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Colleen Pustola NWPL CC Rep On 6/18/2010 11:58 AM, Sherri wrote: > Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the > sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues.<sigh> > > > > Sherri > > > > =============== > > > > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

'siyo, No Discussion. Sgi, Bill Oliver -=- Sherri wrote: > Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the > sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> > > > > Sherri > > > > =============== > > > > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

No discussion Linda K. Lewis SWSC.CC -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> Sherri =============== Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no discussion". Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Denise Wells On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:26 AM, "Vickery, Tina" <[email protected]> wrote: > No discussion. > > Tina Vickery > Representative at Large > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sherri " <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:58 PM > Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > > >> Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems >> the >> sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> >> >> >> >> Sherri >> >> >> >> =============== >> >> >> >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and >> dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary >> hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be >> underway >> are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond >> with >> "no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

No discussion. Tina Vickery Representative at Large ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri " <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings > Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the > sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> > > > > Sherri > > > > =============== > > > > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be > underway > are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with > "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

No discussion. Les Shockey Sherri wrote: > Correcting the double pasting of the original posted motion. Seems the > sensitivity of the touchpad on my laptop has had some issues. <sigh> > > > > Sherri > > > > =============== > > > > Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated > 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings > effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway > are over." > > > > Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no > discussion". > > > > > > Sherri Bradley > National Coordinator > USGenWeb Project > Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org > Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php > > > > > > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, The first paragraph in your email was the motion - the action that you wanted to occur. The other two paragraphs are your explanation of why you think the action should be taken. As others have indicated, motions don't include all of the explanation or discussion such as what you've included in the message where you presented the motion. I've corrected the double pasting of the wording that inadvertently was included when I copied and pasted from your message. The explanation/discussion that you've included does not belong in the motion. Discussion continues on the motion. If you have no discussion, please indicate so. Sherri Bradley National Coordinator USGenWeb Project Information about the USGenWeb Project at http://usgenweb.org Advisory Board Agenda http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php -----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:31 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Sherri; Sherri Bradley; Cyndie Enfinger; Dale Grimm; DC & Alice Allen; Pauli Smith; Bill; Colleen Pustola; 'AnnieG'; Les Shockey; [email protected]; Denise Wells; Larry Flesher; W David Samuelsen; Linda Lewis Subject: Re: [BOARD] Motion 2009/10-30 - Suspension of Hearings I withdraw "no discussion" and register my objection. This is not the motion I made and seconded by another AB. You altered the motion too much. Please restate the motion as written and presented originally which is very specific. I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway are over. This is too close to the elections enough for many to denounce the hearings as nothing more than political sham to get rid of election opponents at earliest possible time. The attempt at these hearings are now threatening to cause a good number of the CCs to leave the Project. W. David Samuelsen SWSC David Samuelsen On 6/16/2010 10:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > no discussion > > David Samuelsen > > On 6/16/2010 10:22 PM, Sherri wrote: >> Presented by W. David Samuelsen and seconded by Colleen Pustola and dated >> 6/16/10, the motion reads: "I move we suspend all disciplinary hearings >> effective immediately until after the current elections soon to be underway >> are over. move we suspend all disciplinary hearings effective immediately >> until after the current elections soon to be underway are over." >> >> >> >> Discussion is now open. If you have no discussion, please respond with "no >> discussion". >> >> >> >> >> >> Sherri Bradley >> National Coordinator >> USGenWeb Project >> Information about the USGenWeb Project at<http://usgenweb.org> >> http://usgenweb.org >> Advisory Board Agenda<http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php> >> http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.php >> >> >> >> >> >> USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > USGenWeb Advisory Board Agenda: http://usgenweb.org/agenda2.shtml > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >