Hi Folks First an apology to anyone trying to access my web page - I'm afraid I have taken it down as I have found that unfortunately large chunks of my tree have started to appear on other web pages without my permission and without anyone even contacting me [ this doesn't apply to cousins from this group I hasten to add] Neil and I are in the process of creating a new web page which will be password protected and I will let you all know when that is up and ready so you can all have a browse. As to the above couple I haven't got them in my tree - could you give some dates and places for them please Debbie and I'll certainly see what I can find out for you. Best wishes Angela --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 27/06/2004