Well done Carlton !!! Mary would explain the last missing female Blaxall in the 1811 parish listings - lucy being the other. What I have found is that the children christened at Witham - children of William Walford and Lucy are the same couple who married at St. Anne's Soho as the last child - Edward Walford ( who I have also found in 1881) had his mother listed as Lucy Blaxall instead of just Lucy !!!!! YES !!!! Bit of a quandary now - I put Charles Barwell through the 2% sample 1851 census disk which covers Witham and came back with a mother Mary (going well !!) born 1793/94 even better !! but her place of birth is given as Shenfield Essex same as son Charles born approx. 1835 BUT working for them is a servant named Charlotte Walford born 1823 Shenfield. Now William and Lucy had a girl Charlotte christened 29th Jan 1826 Witham Independent. Surely it is too much of a coincidence that these 2 families have turned up together in 1851 ??? Shenfield is just outside modern Brentwood directly on a line with Witham from London !! Perhaps the journey from London to was broken with a stay at Shenfield but going to Witham - where the grandparents were to get the christenings performed !! What do you think ???? I have yet to put the lucy Blaxall ( descendants of) info I have found into the tree - please bear with me as I have had a couple of major family crisis's during the last few days which has meant me neglecting the family history but I should be on track early next week !! ( PLEASE DON'T stop the emails tho' !!!) Have a good weekend All the best Angela Original Message ----- From: Carlton Blaxill <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> To: Neil Ward <nward@cableinet.co.uk> Cc: <geofflewinblax@cwcom.net>; <blaxall-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 July 1999 13:24 Subject: Angela, think I've found another one. > Hi Angela, > > First let me thank you for your efforts in tracking down the Black > etc variants in the 1881 census index. My disks arrived yesterday, > so I may try and go through the Blackall Blackhall variants to see if > any are 'strays' that I can recognise. > > I managed to get into the Society of Genealogists in London for an > hour yesterday, and came across this entry in the Vicar General > Marriage Licences. > > "August 2nd 1817. Charles Barwell of the parish of Witham in the > county of Essex Batchelor, aged 21 years and upwards intends to > intermarry with Mary Blaxall of the parish of St. James > Westminster in the county of Middlesex spinster aged 21 years > and upwards. Marriage to take place at St. James Westminster. > Her the said Mary Blaxall has been in St. James Westminster for > at least 4 weeks last past.[Sworn etc.]" > > Unfortunately they did not seem to have a copy of the St. James > registers for me to check if there was any additional detail in the > marriage entry (actual ages, Witnesses etc). But it would seem > probable that this Mary could have been another child of James > and Elizabeth. If she was 21+ in 1817 then she could have been > born any time before 1796. > > I also don't know how close St. James Westminster is to St. Anne > Soho. > > Anyway, if you could check the same sources that you did for > Lucy Walford for a Mary Barwell, you may come up with a more > exact birth-date / place. > > It seems a little unusual that the links between Westminster and > Witham were kept so strong. One assumes the whole family > moved to Witham around 1804 or a bit before, Lucy would have > been 14 and this Mary perhaps a couple of years younger 12ish > say. But maybe the girls did stay in London, with relatives perhaps > ? It would be great to get their births, next time I'm in London I'll get > back to the Westminster City Archives and have a look at St. > James for them (don't know when though). > > That's all for now. > > Carlton. > and have a look at St.=20 > James for them (don't know when though). >=20 > That's all for now. >=20 > Carlton. >=20