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    1. Re: Fw: blaxall search
    2. Neil Ward
    3. Hi Carlton I just got this back from Janice - <Angela, I'm so excited about this because I believe you're correct about the date being incorrect on the death certificate. I found a picture of his headstone in the Palouse cemetery (where I originally got the year) and it says 1857 not 58.....I can hardly wait to hear from you!!! You've been a great help, and I can't thank you enough. Janice > Well I think that it would definately be worth her going for the St.Saviour John - if the date of birth is 14th February that would be great. It would be interesting to find out who his parents were and whether they are in the tree anywhere. I have suggested that she trys to find the Canadian marriage certificate for John and Jessie Ferris to see what extra information if any is available - I don't know if fathers names are given. I just checked the 1881 census and the 1857 Yarmouth John is living in Norfolk so it is not him. Thanks for the information Carlton - I will pass it on to Janice and let you know what turns up. We are all fine at the moment apart from the usual colds - I have been snowed under with family tree information from lots of my branches - not complaining although my notes mountain is getting bigger. I'll keep in touch Best wishes Angela ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlton Blaxill <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> To: Neil Ward <nward@cableinet.co.uk> Cc: <BLAXALL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 5:26 PM Subject: Re: Fw: blaxall search Hi Angela, Nice to hear from you, all the family are fine thanks, hope yours are ok too. Janice seems to have a very particular date there, Feb 14 1858, presumably early Canadian Death Certificates give the date of birth, but is there no place (parish) within London ?? According to both my list of GRO births and the one Geoff did off the Fiches there are no John's born in 1858 at all, the next John going forward is John Blaxhall born in Hoxne Reg. District in Dec Qtr 1860. The first John going backwards is a John Blaxell at Yarmouth Dec Qtr 1857, and then its the John Blaxall at St. Saviour in Jun Qtr 1857 (REF No. 1d 2 according to my records). So either he wasn't registered, we've missed him from the index (unlikely now as Geoff has done an independant search too), he is indexed under a Black..... or Blacs... variant spelling or if the Feb 14 1858 date is baptism rather than birth then it could be the John at St. Saviour. (I think St. Saviour is London, can Geoff confirm.) This one could be bit tricky to be sure it is the correct John. The 1861 and 1871 census would be most helpful, but with no place (parish) of birth to look where would you start ?? I suppose if the birth cert. says Feb 14th then it is simply the death certificate 1 year out and he was 81 rather than 80, suppose its worth the £7.50 to find out !! I think Janice really needs to find some other pieces of the 'jigsaw' from the Canada side (e.g. transportation details (shipping lists etc.) or apprenticeship indentures that may list his parents). Sorry I can't be much help on this one. Carlton. On 11 Oct 99, at 8:23, Neil Ward wrote: > Hi Carlton > > I have just got this email from Janice in USA who had Blaxalls in her > tree. The Scottish connection turned out to be a bit of a dead end as his > marriage took place out in Canada. > > I said I would help her track down a birth certificate for John Blaxall I > know you said that you had a GRO ref to a John in 1857 St.Saviours ( is > that London ?) Have you got any possible ref. to the John below birth year > given as 1858 - but that could be wrong - his wife died before him. > > Not to worry if not I'll try and track one down. > > Janice's mother is coming over next year - it would be nice if we can link > her up before she gets over here !! > > Hope all the family are well > > All the best > Angela > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Noble <derekn@gte.net> > To: <Angela <nward@cableinet.co.uk> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:22 PM > Subject: blaxall search > > > > Hi Angela, I have some very good news...........I got my hands on my > > great grandfather's (John Blaxall) death certificate, and it seems that > > he was born in London England on Feb. 14, 1858 , died on April 23, 1938. > > It said he'd been in the US for 64 yrs, and was 80 yrs old so he came to > > Canada when he was 16 in 1874. Could this possibly help your friend > > Carlton give us any additional info? I'd like to get a birth certificate > > that would > name > > his parents. Maybe my mother can do some work when she goes over in > > June. Take care now,....Hope everything is well for you. > > > > talk to you soon, > > Janice > > >

    10/12/1999 02:26:29
    1. Re: Fw: blaxall search
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Angela, Nice to hear from you, all the family are fine thanks, hope yours are ok too. Janice seems to have a very particular date there, Feb 14 1858, presumably early Canadian Death Certificates give the date of birth, but is there no place (parish) within London ?? According to both my list of GRO births and the one Geoff did off the Fiches there are no John's born in 1858 at all, the next John going forward is John Blaxhall born in Hoxne Reg. District in Dec Qtr 1860. The first John going backwards is a John Blaxell at Yarmouth Dec Qtr 1857, and then its the John Blaxall at St. Saviour in Jun Qtr 1857 (REF No. 1d 2 according to my records). So either he wasn't registered, we've missed him from the index (unlikely now as Geoff has done an independant search too), he is indexed under a Black..... or Blacs... variant spelling or if the Feb 14 1858 date is baptism rather than birth then it could be the John at St. Saviour. (I think St. Saviour is London, can Geoff confirm.) This one could be bit tricky to be sure it is the correct John. The 1861 and 1871 census would be most helpful, but with no place (parish) of birth to look where would you start ?? I suppose if the birth cert. says Feb 14th then it is simply the death certificate 1 year out and he was 81 rather than 80, suppose its worth the £7.50 to find out !! I think Janice really needs to find some other pieces of the 'jigsaw' from the Canada side (e.g. transportation details (shipping lists etc.) or apprentiship indentures that may list his parents). Sorry I can't be much help on this one. Carlton. On 11 Oct 99, at 8:23, Neil Ward wrote: > Hi Carlton > > I have just got this email from Janice in USA who had Blaxalls in her > tree. The Scottish connection turned out to be a bit of a dead end as his > marriage took place out in Canada. > > I said I would help her track down a birth certificate for John Blaxall I > know you said that you had a GRO ref to a John in 1857 St.Saviours ( is > that London ?) Have you got any possible ref. to the John below birth year > given as 1858 - but that could be wrong - his wife died before him. > > Not to worry if not I'll try and track one down. > > Janice's mother is coming over next year - it would be nice if we can link > her up before she gets over here !! > > Hope all the family are well > > All the best > Angela > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greg Noble <derekn@gte.net> > To: <angela <nward@cableinet.co.uk> > Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 11:22 PM > Subject: blaxall search > > > > Hi Angela, I have some very good news...........I got my hands on my > > great grandfather's (John Blaxall) death certificate, and it seems that > > he was born in London England on Feb. 14, 1858 , died on april 23, 1938. > > It said he'd been in the US for 64 yrs, and was 80 yrs old so he came to > > Canada when he was 16 in 1874. Could this possibly help your friend > > Carlton give us any additional info? I'd like to get a birth certificate > > that would > name > > his parents. Maybe my mother can do some work when she goes over in > > June. Take care now,....Hope everything is well for you. > > > > talk to you soon, > > Janice > > >

    10/05/1999 10:26:11
    1. Re: Blaxall Family History (Jenny Triggs)
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Geoff, Jenny got in touch today via the website and I sent the following reply --- I hope you notice I'm still keeping the family side up by getting to the subject of 'booze' by the fourth paragraph !! Looks like the 'summer' has really broken up now, so hopefully will be getting back to the old family stuff in ernest now, so the internet 'wires' should soon be humming with Blaxall correspondence again soon. All mine are pretty good, Peter started primary school last week, and he loves it (thank goodness no tears at the school gate !) and Clare is still a real 'gem', getting to the 'pick it up and put in mouth' stage now. Hope you are your crew are all ok. The mailing list is simply:- send a blank e-mail to BLAXALL-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the single word 'subscribe' (no quotes) and you join the list (which you have done ok but which others may need to do) and then copy any relevant correspondence to BLAXALL-L@rootsweb.com so all list members get a copy. If people want to stop getting Blaxall trivia then they just send a e- mail to BLAXALL-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with a single word of 'unsubscribe' and they will. Anyway must get to bed (must have become a 'whimp'!!) -- regards to Angela and all on the list. Carlton. Hi there Jenny, Very nice to hear from another related Blaxall over the 'net. Interestingly, there has been a lot of Blaxall connections from Lewin Jeremiah and Marianne Wolton that have been in touch this year and so this side of the family is filling out rather well. I would be most interested in your direct Blaxall line back to LJ and M.Would your Mother be Elsie Laurna by any chance ? I notice the marriage to a Mr Triggs in the Jun Qtr 1954 from the GRO index. If so, then maybe here's a bit of a coincidence for you. I paid a visit to a very welcoming couple earlier this year (Guy and Kathleen Hayward) who are (Guy that is) descended from Mary Eliza Blaxall, the daughter of LJ and M, who married a William Mustard. They have many recollections of various Blaxall's in the 40's and 50's. They very kindly offered me some refreshment, I accepted a glass of beer. It was served in a glass that had been given to them (wedding present if I recall correctly) by Maurice Blaxall, now if my assumption above is correct, would that be your Grandfather ?? If so I have toasted very fond memories of him with some old friends of his, this very year. Let me know if I am on the right lines or totally 'barking up the wrong tree' (as opposed to being 'totally barking' which has been long established !!) and we can compare notes and hopefully fill in some missing gaps. I am very pleased to hear you have a portrait of John Walton, Guy and Kathleen told me some interesting stories about him already. Do you have any other photographs (it is possible I already have one of Marianne passed on by another Canadian cousin (Jean Browse)) ? as I am trying to ascertain what photographs have survived through the family lines. Best Regards Carlton. P.S. The family goes back several generations from Lewin Jeremiah and Marianne if you are interested, but please let me know if you are looking forward to doing the research yourself ! Original Message My mothers family name is Blaxall. I knew the family originated in Suffolk and have been able to trace the family via the internet back to a Lewin Jermiah Blaxall who married Marianne Wolton in Eyke, Suffolk in 1823. This was possible as I had a self-portrait of John Wolton, Marianne's father with a list of his children on the back and also a rough family tree drawn up by an ancestor with just rough names and no dates. I think I can get further with the internet but would need to check registers etc. and one day I may get around to doing this. On 22 Sep 99, at 23:17, m01ta200@cwcom.net wrote: > Dear Jenny, > > At last (despite familysearch.org) we are together !! > > Please note I am copying this to Angela Ward (Bristol area) and Carlton > Blaxill (way up in Suffolk, although he's really a renegade Londoner !) as > they are the most involved researchers into Blax Fam Hist in the UK. > > My website will tell you all about me and it contains links to Angela's > and Carlton's sites, together with one to Dave Martin although he limits > his site to Blaxill/Reynolds (or should it be Blaxill/Reynoldses ? ) > > In case you missed it here it is again :- > > < http://members.tripod.co.uk/Blaxall/index.html > > > If that shows up in blue, just click your mouse on it and you will be > transported ! > > Carlton has done some remarkable work and has traced us back to a > marriage between John Blaxall & Agnes (Anne) Wythe 2 July 1621 in > Yoxford, East Suffolk. > > If you seek Yoxford on a map, it is a few miles due north of Saxmundham, > Essex. > > John & Agnes begat Francis who married Elizabeth Rous. > > Francis & Elizabeth begat John who married Margaret Downing. > > John & Margaret begat Lewin who married Hannah Pinborrow. > > Lewin & Hannah begat Simon who married Mary Cousins. > > Simon & Mary begat the following 9 children:- > > Esther ?? who married John Todd > Simon who died aged 27 > Frederick my Gt Gt Grandad who married Mary Cole > Lewin who died aged 3 > Ann who married Edmund Geater > Memina baptised 3 Dec 1786 buried 23 Dec 1786 > Amy baptised 1 Jan 1789 buried 16 Jan 1789 > Eliza who married Frederick Fletcher > Lewin Jeremiah (senior) who married Marianne Wolton 23 Jan 1823 > > from which couple I presume you are descended ? & know their children > downwards ? > > If not we can elucidate as we have cousins on that side in New Zealand, > Canada and USA (possibly also Australia) > > Now tell us something about yourself young lady ! > Such as:- > Which part of the country are you in ? > How long have you been researching ? > Where do you appear in the Tree ? > Are you working alone ? or are you linked with others ? > > Carlton has set up an e-mail mailing list for Blax... researchers but I've > forgotten how to subscribe to it ! Doubtless he or Angela will advise ! > > Thanks again for contacting me and i look forward to sharing Research > results ! > > Cheers for now Geoff Lewin (and proud of it!) Blaxall > > jenny@triggs25.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > > > Dear Geoff, > > > > I have received your e-mails successfully. > > > > I note from your e-mail address the name Lewin, this is very > > prominent throughout my family so perhaps theres a link there! > > > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > > > Jenny Triggs > >

    09/22/1999 05:14:44
    1. Blaxell used as a Christian name
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Michael, Thanks for your note. It's very interesting that you have the name Blaxell in use in the family as a christian name. There are many examples of Blaxell's (and derivations) using other surnames (e.g. LEWIN Blaxall, Henry ROUS Blaxell, THURLOW Blaxill etc.) but I don't recall it working the other way before your contact. Yes I have been in contact with your mother (I think she copied you on the note) and I would be amazed if we are not connected some way back. She is trying to get the family tree back to see where the connection was, and if you can, then I will probably be able to help in getting the Blaxell line of the family back a few more generations. Look forward to hearing from you if you get any news. Best Regards. Carlton. Original note follows. I recently referred my mother to your site and I believe she has been in touch. I am not sure if we qualify for your potential Surname interest group as the name has in our family been given as a christian name for at least the last 3 generations ! I was totally unaware of the possible origin of the name and apart from my father and Grandfather had never come across the name in any context; isn't the net wonderful ! Kind regards, Michael Original note end.

    09/03/1999 06:53:33
    1. Blaxell Derivation
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hello Richard, Great to hear from another (related) Blaxell across the 'net. Up until a few months ago I thought that virtually all the 'Blaxell' spelling of the name came from a link back to the Potter Heigham area of Norfolk. But thanks due to an Australian contact (Greogory Blaxell) it has revealed that a good number of the family with this derivation of the surname came from the Stoke Damerel area of Devon. I am guessing by your address that this may well be the line you are descended from. (Thats a bit of a wild assumption I guess, as you may have moved to that area much more recently !!) I will send you another mail with the outline information of this line of the family when I get home (I'm at work right now and don't have the information to hand) but this line does start quite early (1700's) if I recall correctly. According to Gregory, many members of the family were employes as ship-wrights etc. in the Navy. Do you know much about your Blaxell connection, do Norfolk or Stoke Damerel feature in the family history to your recollection ? Will e-mail later. Best Regards. Carlton.

    09/01/1999 06:12:56
    1. Re: Another Blaxall line (Scotland)??
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Angela (and all on the list), Great to hear from you again, so sorry to hear of the terrible news of your poor hard drive, its a real pain when things like that happen. I think we all intend to do the adequate back-ups / archives, but its not till its gone do you really find the bits you haven't. Yes, there was a 'little sparkle' in the summer a few weeks back, all too brief -- but we had a pretty good bank Holiday weekend and the forecast is set fine for the next few days too. I have really had a break from all family tree stuff over the last few weeks, been trying to spend as much time with Clare before she grows up and of course Peter's off school so he needs some attention. The only thing I have done is a bit more on the 'Worlingworth' Blaxall's (Howard's line) which I must type up and send out. Now with regard to your new, and might I say very interesting, lead. I can recall too references to 'Scottish Blaxall' ( -- ooch eye the noo --- etc.) Firstly, there was the family under Blacksill that you pulled out of the 1881 census, William b. 1822 Georgina b. 1827 then children Eliza 1858 George 1864 and Amelia 1874. William is listed as Coast Guard but unfortunately only information is his birth place was England (no parish). It's possible that John could have been another son.? I do notice that in the GRO that there is a John born in the Jun Qtr of 1857 at St. Saviour Registration District (where-ever that is ?). I also got this e-mail in Jul 1998 which mentions a Scottish connection, but have never heard anything further, athough this is a Blaxell rather than Blaxall. "Hi Carlton, Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you, I don't have access to hotmail right now, so sorry for any confusion caused. Yes, I do live in Australia, in Sydney actually but my parents tell me that we can trace our family tree back to Scotland, generations ago. But other than that I don't know much about our family name or history, terribly I know!! But I will do some digging in the next couple of weeks and see what I can get back to you with. Dad asked me to ask you if you are related to a Susannah Blaxill? I have actually just come back from 2 years working in London, and I wish I was still there, I had a great time. Till next time Ainsley Blaxell Sydney, Australia" So there does seem to be a fair bit of evidence that there is a line from Scotland amongst our ranks. Well must get of to work now. Have any of the other cousins got any 'snippets' from Scottish connections. Regards. Carlton. On 1 Sep 99, at 0:09, Neil Ward wrote: > Hi Carlton > > Hope you and family are well and enjoying what little sunshine we have had > lately.!! > > Sorry I have not been in touch recently - my computers hard drive died on > my completely and although all my files were saved I lost ALL my email - > including all the wonderful Blaxall cousin correspondence ( I am now > archiving my mail !!) > > Well I hope you can help me out ?? > > This is an email I have received and I haven't any information to help > this lady out - hope you can !!! > > <Angela, my name is Janice, and I was sent an e-mail from my mother-in-law > regarding your request that if there was a Blaxall in the family, to > please contact you. My mother's maiden name is Blaxall. Her fatherwas > Charles Albert Blaxall b. 11 Jan 1887, Ontario Canada, married to Hazel > Harris. They moved from the Minnesota/Wisconsin area to Palouse WA.in the > late 20's, then Spokane, and eventually to Federal Way WA. His father was > John Blaxall b. 1857, England (?), married Jessie Ferris of Glascow > Scotland. That's basically what I know. I have some more details and > stories, but would really appreciate anything you could share from your > research about this surname, and in particular my family members. > > Thank You > Janice Noble> > > I checked out the IGI and couldn't find any matching entries and I > couldn't spot a John of about the right age on the large tree you sent - > which by the way I have almost finished entering. > > Well must get to bed - I have to be up early tomorrow as we are having a > second telephone line put in - my hubby is fed up with not being able to > use the phone when I am Netting !!! > > Best wishes > Angela > > >

    08/27/1999 05:38:27
    1. Lucy and Mary !!!
    2. Neil Ward
    3. Hi everyone - Angela here !! At last I have managed to do the descendants of James Blaxall and Elizabeth Cotton daughters - Mary and Lucy. I said in my last email that Mary and Charles Barwell (son) were listed as birthplace Shenfield as was another son Newman. In 1881 Newman states his place of birth as Witham and I have lots of christenings for Charles and Mary at Witham. I wonder if for some strange reason Shenfield was put down when it should have been Witham ?? I will have to get a more thorough search done at Essex R.O. for these 2 families as there is another daughter of Lucy -Eliza Walford- and a granddaughter Emma on the 1851 census but not in the IGI. Tantalisingly in the 1881 census there are a number of male Walfords who give birthplace as Witham and have the occupation of tailor which the other male Walfords have but no christenings have shown up. In 1851 there are another family of Walfords from the London area who were living in Witham - Williams brother decided to head for the country - certainly by 1881 at least one lot had moved back to London after having some children born in Witham. The Barwells are quite a well documented family with a long line going back at Witham - they were butchers. Well here's the information : (Please note - Henry Barwell had a different wife for the 1851 and 1881 census. The first child Henry was definitely a child of his 1st wife Frances. How many - if any were the result of his 2nd marriage to Mary I don't know as I haven' t yet tracked down a marriage date yet. They are currently all listed as Henry and Frances children!) Descendants of Charles Barwell 1 Charles Barwell b: Abt. 1787 in Witham Essex c: 14 December 1787 Witham Essex d: Bef. 1851 .. +Mary Blaxall b: Abt. 1794 m: 2 August 1817 in St. James Westminster d: Aft. 1851 ..... 2 Charles Barwell b: Abt. 1818 in Witham Essex c: 23 September 1818 Witham Essex o: Butcher ..... 2 Mary Barwell b: Abt. 1818 c: 23 September 1818 Witham Essex ..... 2 Elizabeth Barwell b: Abt. 1825 c: 17 August 1825 Witham Essex ..... 2 Henry Barwell b: Abt. 1826 in Witham Essex c: 26 November 1826 Witham Essex d: Aft. 1881 o: Butcher ......... +Frances b: Abt. 1832 in Witham Essex m: Bef. 1850 ............. 3 Henry Barwell b: 1850 in Witham Essex ............. 3 Charles Barwell b: Abt. 1855 in Witham Essex o: Assistant butcher ............. 3 Frances Mary Barwell b: Abt. 1857 in Witham Essex ............. 3 Maria Barwell b: Abt. 1858 in Witham Essex ............. 3 Robert Newman Barwell b: Abt. 1861 in Witham Essex o: Assistant butcher ............. 3 Annie Barwell b: Abt. 1870 in Witham Essex ............. 3 Alice Maud Barwell b: Abt. 1873 in Witham Essex ..... *2nd Wife of Henry Barwell: ......... +Mary b: Abt. 1834 in East Hanningfield, Essex m: Aft. 1851 ..... 2 Edmund Barwell b: Abt. 1829 in Witham Essex o: Butcher ..... 2 Newman Barwell b: Abt. 1831 c: 22 February 1831 Witham Essex ..... 2 Newman Barwell b: Abt. 1834 in Witham Essex c: 9 August 1834 Witham Essex o: Butcher ......... +Eliza b: Abt. 1834 in Gaines Colne, Essex Descendants of William Walford 1 William Walford d: Bef. 1851 .. +Lucy Blaxall b: Abt. 1791 in London m: 27 April 1813 in Westminster, Saint Anne Soho, London, England d: Aft. 1851 o: Washerwoman ..... 2 William Walford b: Abt. 1814 c: 28 February 1814 Witham Independent Essex ..... 2 John Walford b: Abt. 1816 c: 31 January 1816 Witham Independent Essex ..... 2 Charlotte Walford b: Abt. 1823 c: 29 January 1826 Witham Independent Essex ..... 2 Edward Walford b: Abt. 1831 in Witham Essex c: 24 July 1831 Witham Independent Essex d: Aft. 1881 o: Tailor ......... +Mary b: Abt. 1831 in Bradwell, Essex d: Aft. 1881 ............. 3 Edward Walford b: Abt. 1855 in Chelmsford Essex o: Tailor ............. 3 John Walford b: Abt. 1857 in Witham Essex o: Tinman ............. 3 George H Walford b: Abt. 1861 in Witham Essex o: Bricklayers lab. ............. 3 Edith E Walford b: Abt. 1864 in Witham Essex ............. 3 Alfred Walford b: Abt. 1868 in Witham Essex o: errand boy ............. 3 Esther C Walford b: Abt. 1870 in Eastbourne Sussex ............. 3 William Walford b: Abt. 1873 in Eastbourne Sussex ............. 3 Frank H Walford b: Abt. 1876 in Eastbourne Sussex ..... 2 Eliza Walford b: Abt. 1835 in Witham Essex 3 Frank H Walford b: Abt. 1876 in Eastbourne Sussex=20 ..... 2 Eliza Walford b: Abt. 1835 in Witham Essex=20

    07/12/1999 10:08:20
    1. [Fwd: Stevie Wonder vs Jack Nicklaus]
    2. Hughfarn@aol.com wrote: > Stevie Wonder and Jack Nicklaus are in a bar. > Nicklaus turns to Wonder and says: "How is the singing career going?" > > Stevie Wonder says: "Not too bad, the latest album has gone into the top 10, > so all in all I think it is pretty good. By the way, how's the golf?" > > Nicklaus replies: "Not too bad, I am not winning as much as I used to but I > am still making a bit of money. I have had some problems with my swing but I > think I have got that right now." > > Stevie Wonder says: "I always find that when my swing goes wrong I need to > stop playing for a while and not think about it, then the next time I play it > seems to be all right." > > Jack Nicklaus says: "You play golf!?" > > Stevie Wonder says: "Yes, I have been playing for years." > > And Nicklaus says: "But I thought you were blind, how can you play golf if > you are blind?" He replies:"I get my caddy to stand in the middle of the > fairway and he calls to me, I listen for the sound of his voice and play the > ball towards him, then when I get to where the ball lands the caddy moves to > the green or further down the fairway and again I play the ball towards his > voice." > > "But how do you putt", says Nicklaus. > > "Well", says Stevie, "I get my caddy to lean down in front of the hole and > call to me with his head on the ground and I just play the ball towards his > voice." > > Nicklaus says: "What is your handicap." > > Stevie says "Well I play off scratch." > > Nicklaus is incredulous and he says to Stevie, "We must play a game sometime." > > Wonder replies: "Well people don't take me seriously so I only play for > money, and I never play for less than $100,000 a hole." > > Nicklaus thinks about it and says "OK, I'm up for that -- when would you > like to play?" > > "I don't care -- any night next week is ok with me."

    07/10/1999 10:49:16
    1. Missing Blaxalls !!!
    2. Neil Ward
    3. Well done Carlton !!! Mary would explain the last missing female Blaxall in the 1811 parish listings - lucy being the other. What I have found is that the children christened at Witham - children of William Walford and Lucy are the same couple who married at St. Anne's Soho as the last child - Edward Walford ( who I have also found in 1881) had his mother listed as Lucy Blaxall instead of just Lucy !!!!! YES !!!! Bit of a quandary now - I put Charles Barwell through the 2% sample 1851 census disk which covers Witham and came back with a mother Mary (going well !!) born 1793/94 even better !! but her place of birth is given as Shenfield Essex same as son Charles born approx. 1835 BUT working for them is a servant named Charlotte Walford born 1823 Shenfield. Now William and Lucy had a girl Charlotte christened 29th Jan 1826 Witham Independent. Surely it is too much of a coincidence that these 2 families have turned up together in 1851 ??? Shenfield is just outside modern Brentwood directly on a line with Witham from London !! Perhaps the journey from London to was broken with a stay at Shenfield but going to Witham - where the grandparents were to get the christenings performed !! What do you think ???? I have yet to put the lucy Blaxall ( descendants of) info I have found into the tree - please bear with me as I have had a couple of major family crisis's during the last few days which has meant me neglecting the family history but I should be on track early next week !! ( PLEASE DON'T stop the emails tho' !!!) Have a good weekend All the best Angela Original Message ----- From: Carlton Blaxill <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> To: Neil Ward <nward@cableinet.co.uk> Cc: <geofflewinblax@cwcom.net>; <blaxall-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 July 1999 13:24 Subject: Angela, think I've found another one. > Hi Angela, > > First let me thank you for your efforts in tracking down the Black > etc variants in the 1881 census index. My disks arrived yesterday, > so I may try and go through the Blackall Blackhall variants to see if > any are 'strays' that I can recognise. > > I managed to get into the Society of Genealogists in London for an > hour yesterday, and came across this entry in the Vicar General > Marriage Licences. > > "August 2nd 1817. Charles Barwell of the parish of Witham in the > county of Essex Batchelor, aged 21 years and upwards intends to > intermarry with Mary Blaxall of the parish of St. James > Westminster in the county of Middlesex spinster aged 21 years > and upwards. Marriage to take place at St. James Westminster. > Her the said Mary Blaxall has been in St. James Westminster for > at least 4 weeks last past.[Sworn etc.]" > > Unfortunately they did not seem to have a copy of the St. James > registers for me to check if there was any additional detail in the > marriage entry (actual ages, Witnesses etc). But it would seem > probable that this Mary could have been another child of James > and Elizabeth. If she was 21+ in 1817 then she could have been > born any time before 1796. > > I also don't know how close St. James Westminster is to St. Anne > Soho. > > Anyway, if you could check the same sources that you did for > Lucy Walford for a Mary Barwell, you may come up with a more > exact birth-date / place. > > It seems a little unusual that the links between Westminster and > Witham were kept so strong. One assumes the whole family > moved to Witham around 1804 or a bit before, Lucy would have > been 14 and this Mary perhaps a couple of years younger 12ish > say. But maybe the girls did stay in London, with relatives perhaps > ? It would be great to get their births, next time I'm in London I'll get > back to the Westminster City Archives and have a look at St. > James for them (don't know when though). > > That's all for now. > > Carlton. > and have a look at St.=20 > James for them (don't know when though). >=20 > That's all for now. >=20 > Carlton. >=20

    07/09/1999 01:19:35
    1. Angela, think I've found another one.
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Angela, First let me thank you for your efforts in tracking down the Black etc variants in the 1881 census index. My disks arrived yesterday, so I may try and go through the Blackall Blackhall variants to see if any are 'strays' that I can recognise. I managed to get into the Society of Genelogists in London for an hour yesterday, and came across this entry in the Vicar General Marriage Licences. "August 2nd 1817. Charles Barwell of the parish of Witham in the county of Essex Batchelor, aged 21 years and upwards intends to intermarry with Mary Blaxall of the parish of St. James Westminster in the county of Middlesex spinster aged 21 years and upwards. Marriage to take place at St. James Westminster. Her the said Mary Blaxall has been in St. James Westminster for at least 4 weeks last past.[Sworn etc.]" Unfortunately they did not seem to have a copy of the St. James registers for me to check if there was any additional detail in the marriage entry (actual ages, Witnesses etc). But it would seem probable that this Mary could have been another child of James and Elizabeth. If she was 21+ in 1817 then she could have been born any time before 1796. I also don't know how close St. James Westminster is to St. Anne Soho. Anyway, if you could check the same sources that you did for Lucy Walford for a Mary Barwell, you may come up with a more exact birth-date / place. It seems a little unusual that the links between Westminster and Witham were kept so strong. One assumes the whole family moved to Witham around 1804 or a bit before, Lucy would have been 14 and this Mary perhaps a couple of years younger 12ish say. But maybe the girls did stay in London, with relatives perhaps ? It would be great to get their births, next time I'm in London I'll get back to the Westminster City Archives and have a look at St. James for them (don't know when though). Thats all for now. Carlton.

    07/09/1999 06:24:23
    1. (no subject)
    2. I went to the doctor - He said, " Say aah " - I said, " Why ? " He said, " My dog's just died "

    07/08/1999 09:04:52
    1. [Fwd: Blaxhall entries in Domesday Book]
    2. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D62B26337DBEA886E27F4EBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D62B26337DBEA886E27F4EBA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.167.16); Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:57:57 +0100 Received: from blax.demon.co.uk ([158.152.29.222] helo=blax) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112882-0001Pe-0B; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 06:57:55 +0000 From: "Carlton Blaxill" <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> To: geofflewinblax@cwcom.net Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:52:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Blaxhall entries in Domesday Book CC: Neil Ward <nward@cableinet.co.uk> X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Carlton Blaxill" <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> X-pmrqc: 1 Return-receipt-to: "Carlton Blaxill" <carlton@blax.demon.co.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <378207B4.E4654DF1@cwcom.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <E112882-0001Pe-0B@finch-post-11.mail.demon.net> Return-Path: carlton@blax.demon.co.uk Geoff, Yep, thats exactly the sort of stuff that I'm sure all would be interested in. I have tried to find out how many acres Blaxhall is now but can't find it. Wonder if we are descended from Edric Grim !!! Carlton. P.S. By the way the rootsweb thing is only a mailing list (e.g. distribution list), mails do not stay there, and you cannot access old mails like a web-site. Just thought I'd clarify. On 6 Jul 99, at 14:42, m01ta200@cwcom.net wrote: > Carlton, > Hi ! Is this the sort of thing you would like to see in > rootsweb ? If so, let me know & I'll copy it there - If not don't be > afraid to tell me !! KRs Geoff > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > The earliest known references to the surname Blaxall (and it's > variants), namely Adam de Blakesale (1308 Cambridgeshire Calendar of > Letter Books) and Roger de Blaxhale (1324 Essex Feet of Fines), would seem > to indicate that this surname is locative i.e. Adam of/from Blakesale, > Roger of/from Blaxhale. > > In passing, it is worth noting that, in the 14th century, the letter 'e' > was often superfluous to pronounciation in that 'Ye Olde Tea Shoppe' > should properly be pronounced 'Ye Old Tea Shop", rather than 'Ye Oldy Tea > Shoppy'. > > Thus Adam's surname would have been pronounced 'Blaksal' rather than > 'Blaiksail' and Roger's would have been 'Blaxhal' rather than > 'Blaxhail'. > > Both 'Blaksal' and 'Blaxhal', together with modern day pronunciations of > Blaxall, Blaxell, Blaxill and Blacksell, etc., all sound remarkably > similar to the Suffolk drawl when pronouncing the name of the East Suffolk > village/hamlet of Blaxhall, generally rendered as "Blaxle" to rhyme with > "Axle". > > Strangely, with the sole exceptions of Adam and Roger above, (who, by > their respective dates had both cleared off out of Suffolk to Counties > new), no other Blaxalls are known to have been born, married, lived or > died in Blaxhall itself, but they have certainly abounded in villages and > hamlets all around. > > Nevertheless, the general assumption is that Blaxhall was the source of > the Family Surname, so perhaps an extraction from Domesday Book of all > references to Blaxhall in East Suffolk, might be of interest. > > In 1086, twenty years after Duke William of Normandy became King William > 1st of England, he sent out monkish scribes as Commissioners to inquire > carefully and record all land-holdings throughout the Realm, together with > assessments as to their (then) current value and also their value during > the last year of the reign of Kind Edward the Confessor who died 5 January > 1066. > > This is referred to in the original "Norman-Latin" as "tempore Reg > euuardi" , (time [of] King Edward), sometimes shown in translations as > "t.r.e.", sometimes as "then" and sometimes as "before 1066". It is > noticeable that no reference is made to Harold Godwinson (He of the arrow > fame), whom William regarded as a blatant usurper. > > Domesday was compiled in major land-holders order so the Suffolk > Blaxhall entries are somewhat scattered, nevertheless the folio and > entry references are here included so that all entries may be checked back > against the originals. > > Note: The spelling of Blaxhall varies somewhat ! > > ===================== > > 296a > 87 > In Blacheffala 1 free man; 2 acres Value 4d > Hamo of Valognes [holds this from the Count] > > 296b > 89 > In Blachessala Brotho, a free man, held 12 acres Value 2s > The Count [holds this] in lordship. The jurisdiction (is) the Abbot's. > > In the same (Blaxhall) Edric Grim, a free man, half under the patronage of > Malet's predecessor and half under (that) of the Abbot of Ely 20 acres > Value 40d Hamo holds (this) from the Count. > > 92 > In Blachessala Uluric, a free man, 4 acres Value 8d > [This is] in Lordship. The jurisdiction (is) the Abbot's. > > > 29 > In Blachesfala 6 free men under patronage; 61 acres > In the jurisdiction of the Abbot. Always 2 ploughs. Value 10s Gilbert > holds (this). > > In the same (Blaxhall) 3 free men under patronage; 30 acres. Then 1 > plough. > Meadow 2 acres Value 5s The jurisdiction (is) the Abbot's > > 307a > 33 > In Blacchefhala 2 free men; 14 acres. One and a half were under the > sub-patronage of the Abbot of Ely; a half was under the sub-patronage of > Malet's predecessor. Always half a plough . Value 28d. William desmala > holds (this) from Robert. > > In the same (Blaxhall) a free man under the sub-patronage of Edric; 3 > acres Value 6d William also [holds this]. The jurisdiction (is) the > Abbot's. > > 34 > In blaccheffala 1 free man under the sub-patronage of Edric; 10 acres > Value 3s Gilbert [holds this] from Malet. The jurisdiction (is) the > Abbot's > > In the same (Blaxhall) 1 free man, half under the sub-patronage of his > predecessor and half (under that ) of the Abbot. Because of this half, he > has been acquired by the Abbot. He has 12 acres > > Always half a plough Value 2s Gilbert also [holds this] > > In the same (Blaxhall) 1 free man under patronage ; 1 acre Value 2d > > In the same (Blaxhall) 2 free men; one and a half under the > sub-patronage of Edric, 8 acres; a half under the sub-patronage of the > Abbot. Value 16d Gilbert also [holds this] > > 37 > In Blacheffala Gilbert holds from Robert Malet 3 free men under the > sub-patronage of Edric; 6 acres Value 12d The jurisdiction is the > Abbot's. > > 39 > In Blacheffala Huna, a free man under the sub-patronage of Malet's > predecessor, held 12 acres Value 2s > Ranulf holds (this) from Malet. The jurisdiction (is) the Abbot of > Ely's. > > > 307b > 41 > In Blacheffala 16 acres, (part) of the lordship of Cheletuna Value 25d The > jurisdiction (is) the Abbot's. > > 344a > Free Men of Roger Bigot > Parham Half-Hundred > > 136 {Note: This scribe must have had a lisp !} > In blacthefhala 8 free men; 66 acres. Of these, 5 were under the > patronage of Norman and 2 (under that) of the Abbot of Ely, and 1, Alwin > by name, (under that) of Malet's predecessor. Always 2 and a half ploughs. > Meadow 4 acres. Value then 20s Now 25[s] > > In the same (Blaxhall) half a free man; 3 acres Value 6d > The jurisdiction is the Abbot of Ely's. > > In the same (Blaxhall) 2 acres 1 slave Value 8d Norman holds (this) > > In the same (Blaxhall) 1 free man, Ulf, under the patronage of Norman; 10 > acres. half a plough. Value 2s Norman [holds this} from Roger. The > jurisdiction is the Abbot's. > > 353a > Half-Hundred of Parham. In the jurisdiction of the Abbot of Ely. > > 80 > And in Blachefhala 1 free man 10 acres; in the jurisdiction and under the > patronage of the Abbot of Ely. Then and later 2 ploughs, now 1 and a half. > Meadow 2 acres. Value 8s. Roger [holds this] in lordship. > > 384a > Parham Half-Hundred > 36 > In Blacheffala 5 free men in the jurisdiction and patronage of the > Abbot. 26 acres. > Always half a plough Value 4s. > > 430a > Land of Walter Giffard XLV > > Parham Half-Hundred > 1 > In blacheffala 1 free [man], Godric, half under the sub-patronage of > Malet's predecessor and half (under that) of the Abbot of Ely; 10 > acres. Value 20d > Radulph of Langhetot holds (this). The jurisdiction (is) the Abbot's. > > ================= > > A total of 21 entries amounting to 335 acres of arable land + 8 acres of > meadow (for hay). > > It would be interesting to know how this acreage compares to present-day > Blaxhall. > > There is no reference to pasture, or woodland for pannage (grazing of > pigs) although other parts of the Parham Half-Hundred do list such. > > Nor is there any mention of a mill, fishpond or a church, all of which > were taxable so were normally included. I therefore have some difficulty > in visualising what "Blachessala" (in it's variant forms) actually was. > > I am inclined, at the moment, to think of it as is the name of a large > field, or tract of land, which hardly accords with Blaec's Nook ! > > Any thoughts on this would be gratefully received by the author, Geoff > Lewin Blaxall. > > --------------D62B26337DBEA886E27F4EBA--

    07/08/1999 03:30:04
    1. Re: Coat of Arms
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Michael, I really don't think so. Unless this is a very early variant of the surname, we have never found any connections to the name Blackwell. As you may have seen in some previous notes sometimes Blacksall / Blacksell is a variant.Blackwell is a locational name from Derby, Durham, Worcs or from residence near a dark well or stream, so there doesn't seem to be a Suffolk connection. Carlton. On 7 Jul 99, at 16:07, Michael Blaxall wrote: > Hi Carltin > > Is this the correct Coat of Arms for us to be using ? > > Regards > Michael Blaxall

    07/05/1999 07:52:36
    1. Re: Blazell
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Humm, Sebastian and Louisa, not names I recignise as fitting in anywhere. I checked the GRO index and can't see a Sebastian listed, so would suspect not connected... but you never know. I'm sure I recall a BLASELL listed somewhere. I also notice your 1881 list has BLACKSALL BLACKSELL, BLACKSILL included presumably this would have covered BLACKSHALL and BLACKSALE too but there are none ??, is that right ?. Are there a lot of BLACKALL, BLACKHALL s in the index, there could be some of our lot lurking in there, although normally this is a different name ?? Thanks. Carlton. On 3 Jul 99, at 20:49, Neil Ward wrote: > Hi again > Attached is a file of the only family nation-wide in the 1881 census with > the name BLAZELL - suggesting it is an incorrect spelling Does this family > fit in anywhere on the tree ?? > > All the best > Angela >

    07/04/1999 06:08:28
    1. 1881 Census Index Details.
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Dear Angela, Great to speak to you again yesterday. Having had a chance to look through your list of the 1881 census I find that you have 11 entries that I had not picked up on. 1.There is the family of Blacksill's at Forf (Presume this is Scotland), William, Catherine G., Eliza Sophia, Amelia Georgina. (I assume the lodger George J. at Edinburgh is also part of this family). The head William you have as born in Engl. Any chance you could get more details on this family like you did for Arthur Simon etc. to see where. 2. There is the family of Blacksell's at York, James T. Annie, Ed, John, James F. Head James is listed as born Linc. Again any chance of the details. 3. The Border James Blacksell in Staf, born in Suffolk about 1856. Was he born Worlingworth ? It seems rather likely he was the son of John and Hazelponi that we have been researching. Again details would be great. Sorry to cause you more work. Hope this is ok. Alll the best. Carlton.

    07/04/1999 06:08:27
    1. Hazelponi I think = Maria !!!
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Angela, I am pretty convinced that Hazelponi is listed as Maria in the 1881 census. The John and Maria are both listed as age 51 in Stonham in 1881 hence born about 1830. The death registers have Hazelponi dying 21 Jan 1882 age 52 in Earl Stonham (hence born about 1830) and John dying 21 April 1893 age 62 in Earl Stonham (hence born about 1831). They seem to be the only family in Earl Stonham at the time. Must be the same couple, don't you think. Hope that solves the mystery, and sorry to set you on a 'wild goose chase' on this one. Carlton. On 3 Jul 99, at 20:36, Neil Ward wrote: > Hi to all - Hope you are all enjoying your weekend. > > I have to admit defeat on the Hazelponi/hezelponi etc. family - I have > tried everything to locate them - oh well can't win them all. > > Didn't make it to Bath this weekend - kids needed taxi service to > different friends houses. Yes Geoff - it is the one with the magnificent > facade that is photographed by all the tourists - and thanks for the > Somerset FHS web page. If I don't get lucky having a look around I'll see > if they have a list of memorial stones. > > Below is the address of a site I found which has a photo of another cousin > - a Norris Blaxall !!! > > http://www.tbwacd.com/canada/bios/blaxall.html > > Not a lot else to report - I have put a piece of Blaxall info up on the > mailing list Carlton - appeared to come through to me ok. > > Well must go. > All the best > Angela > > >

    07/04/1999 06:08:27
    1. The Blaxall's of Worlingworth.
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Hi Rosie and Howard, At last I get a chance to pen a fuller reply to your most interesting reply of last week. Firstly a full transcription of the fragment of the letter that was passed on to me by Jean Browse. Begin Quote " ....... and I am enclosing a photograph of the two of us which was taken in September 1946, when I was on demobilisation leave prior to restarting in business it was taken at the front door of our house, so you can see I have altered a lot since I last wrote and I am now just over six feet. I will write to my father and ask him if he can remember either his grandfather's or great-grandfathers name, and if he does I will let you know the ......... With [kindest regards] to you both. Yours very sincerly Jack Blaxall of 6 Clydesdale Rd, Wallasey, Cheshire. [Different handwriting] >From his fathers letter father name William grandfather Henry great grandfather Isaac family traced to registers at Worlingworth. " End Quote Your description of the letters history (as below) is spot on I feel, the reference 'since I last wrote' indicates there was a series of letters and so this one may have been a couple of years later (say 1948 perhaps). As it came from Jean Browse (who is very closely related to the Rev. Arthur William (he was her husbands uncle (hope thats right Jean !!)) it is certain that it would have been addressed to him. > Now to the letter. Jack W. Blaxall was Flight Lieutenant in the RAF, and was stationed at Mildenhall during WW II. After the war, he and Dorothy (nee Harrison) settled at 6 Clydsdale Road, where he bought the house together with his in-laws. They moved into 77 Seabank Road in approx. '55, where Dorothy still resides. Dorothy says that in about '46 Jack received a letter from a Rev. Blaxall, (apparently a cousin of John Baden's?!) who was a missionary in Africa, poss. South Africa. He wrote asking them to travel to Congerton, where he was going to be preaching, so they could meet. However, transportation was awkward for them and they never suceeded in going to meet him. Jack wrote him to tell him, and this may be the letter in question. [A Rev. Blaxall testified in front of the Truth and Reconciliation Hearings in front of Bishop Tutu, (possibly his son??!)]. Howard found the this last tidbit on the Net last year, (apparently the Rev. Blaxall was on the good side; he had been imprisoned by the apartheid regime!). Now to trace the family back a bit. We know John Baden Harold was born 5 May 1901, and from the letter his father's name was William. This would put William born probably around the 1870 sort of mark. If we look to the 1881 census which (magnificently) has been indexed by the LDS we indeed find a William Blaxell (although its a Blaxell spelling don't worry about it, in Worlingworth in 1870 it's a Blaxall misspelt by the enumerator !). This William was age 17 in 1881 and hence born around 1864. His parent was listed as Henry Blaxell age 46 (hence born about 1835) and a sister Elizabeth age 19 (hence born 1862) but no mother. There is however a burial record of Elizabeth (Blaxhall this time !) who died 4 Nov 1880 at Worlingworth, and considering there was a marriage of a Henry Blaxall to Elizabeth Rose in Sep Qtr 1859 at Worlingworth this must have been William's mother. There may actually have been another couple of children Isaac and Harry born in 1859, but I need to check that. To go back to William for a bit. The information that John Baden Harold had a brother killed at the Somme gives another interesting piece of information. There is a record of a William James Blaxall Private 20567 in the 8th Battalion, Suffolk Regiment who died on Tuesday 28th February 1917 age 19. His parents were William and Bessie Blaxall, of Worlingworth, Framlingham, Suffolk. He is buried at the St Sever Cemetry Extension just South of Rouen, which according to the write up on the war graves commision site was a cemetry connected with the many hospitals around there, so it may be that he was actually seriously injured at the Somme and died later in hospital. (The other Blaxall Arthur George who died 30th August 1916 who Geoff mentioned would I believe have been a 2nd cousin to William James, and was actually the brother of an elderly Blaxall (Reginald Francis) who, I was told only last week, has now gone into an old peoples home just down the road in Eye. Alas, his memory has gone (so I am told by his daughter), so no chance of some local knowledge there I'm afraid, but he would have been a young lad in Worlingworth when William and Besie were there !. Arthur George has a commemorative plaque in Tannington church, which is the next parish to Worlingworth) Anyway, the GRO confirms William James as born in the Sep Qtr 1897 again Hoxne Registration district. I'm not so sure on the Alice, there was a Bessie Emma born Dec Qtr 1900 but alas dying in Sep Qtr 1901, another Bessie (this time Bessie Frances) was born Sep Qtr 1902, these are very likely to be sister's of William James and John Baden H. Maybe Bessie Frances was later known by "Alice", or as Geoff points out there was an Alice born 1910 at Hartismere, that would need some further delving. So now back to the previous generation. Henry who married Elizabeth Rose as we have said was born about 1835 according to the 1881 census. Thanks to the Suffolk Family History Society the 1851 census is also indexed and we find a Henry aged 16 in it being the son of John and Keziah, John aged 60, Keziah 48. So as I say, I think the letter is wrong in listing Isaac as John Baden H's great grandfather. The Isaac that Geoff referred to (born 23 Jul 1837) is Henry's brother so is not possibly the one, and although John (who married Keziah) did have a brother Isaac, he died age 1 so could not be him. So Isaac was certainly a strong family name at that time and maybe one that John Baden remembered and mistook for his great-grandfather. As its getting late now, I'll have to pen a part two for the generations back from John and Keziah but to recap:- John Blaxall m Keziah Mayhew ] Henry m Elizabeth Rose [ William m Bessie ? [ John Baden Harold m Dorothy Seaton etc. Hope you are all well. Best Regards. Carlton. On 27 Jun 99, at 13:55, Delie R. Cerutis wrote: > Dear Carlton and Geoff, > > Here goes....just spoke to Howard's mum and have more info. Tidbits in > addition to the mystery of that letter fragment from 6 Clydsdale Road, > possibly. > > John Baden Harold Blaxall met Dorothy Seaton at Belfast Castle, where she > worked as a parlourmaid. He worked on the Liverpool-Belfast Ferry, and > retired as Purser in the late 50's. Probably in the early 60's, he left > Laura Ingham and ran off with a Margaret X; we don't know her last name, > since she took on his name, causing a scandal. (He lived with her and her > mother in Hull where he finally passed away in '69? '70?; the families of > George and Roy and probably Kevin (John's son with Laura) would not know > any of this info because of the bad feelings and hush-hush). In the > interim, he and Margaret had a Pub at Rochdale and later he also worked as > a steward at a couple of different golf courses in Speke and > Northumberland. > > Margaret died at Jan 2 '98 at the age of 82 in Cramlington, > Northumberland. She always told people she had 4 sons, no one ever saw > them, so she may have been talking about the 4 boys of John's (of which > all except for Jack, didn't want anything to do with him). Howard knows of > this because he recognized an old address of his grandfather's in a list > of Blaxalls and wrote to her. A neighbor of hers answered and told him > that Margaret had had a fall and was dying in Hospital; she wanted to know > if Margaret had a family, as she always talked about 4 boys. Laura Ingham > also passed away several years ago as well. According to Howard's mum, > Laura was the daughter of a Norwegian sea captain who was lost at sea. > Laura was brought up in the Blue Coat School in Liverpool. > > John Baden also had a sister Alice and a brother ________? who was killed > at about 17 at the Battle of the Somme. According to Howard's mum, Alice > was out around Norfolk way. She has no idea of John Baden's father or > grandfather's names. > > > Well, happy sorting. Hope this info helps a bit. > > Cheers, > > Rosie and Howard Blaxall > > P.S.- Burns C. Blaxall, who was/is? in Colorado at the Univ of Colorado > Health Science Center (Burns.Blaxall@UCHSC.edu)came from Calgary, Alberta. > His family emigrated from Maldon, Essex. I don't know if I told you all > about this, but he and Howard are in a very similar line of pharmacology > research...eerie, maybe genetics determines what you like??!! >

    07/03/1999 05:18:59
    1. Legerton - Blaxall marriage
    2. Neil Ward
    3. Hi to all Can't remember if I have passed this piece of information on to any one. Sarah Ann (aka Sally) was born at Tollesbury, Maldon, Essex on 22 January 1848, the daughter of Samuel Orbell Legerton, a carpenter, and Sarah Ann Drake [BC]. She married James William Blaxall (son of James William Blaxall, a baker), a widower of age, on 30 October 1882 at the Parish Church, Clacton-on-Sea, Tendring, Essex [MC as Sarah Anne]. He was then a grocer residing in Tolleshunt D'Arcy and she resided at Clacton-on-Sea [MC]. Samuel James Robert Legerton and Caroline Elizabeth Legerton were witnesses [MC]. Anyone know of any children ? Sarah must have been getting on a bit !! All the best-----Angela est-----Angela

    07/03/1999 09:53:52
    1. List startup message.
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. Have just sent out a message to advise all the Blaxall's I know that the list is now up and running. Hopefully we will get some takes, but already I am getting a lot og old e-mail addresses rejected. Thats the problem with free services.... Carlton.

    06/26/1999 01:15:27
    1. A test Message to the list.
    2. Carlton Blaxill
    3. This is a test.

    06/25/1999 06:37:17