Mike, Thanks This is the first time I have ever heard or seen that date. The 1640 date is all over the net as you probably know. This certainly clears up much of the confusion of why there are supposedly 2 Ralph's married to 2 Martha's all over the net, I will now function on the assumption of only one Ralph married to one Martha, until I find out differently. I will eliminate the Ralph info for the one who supposedly was born before 1640 and arrived in America in 1640. This certainly gives me a clearer point to start from, rather than chasing all of the mis-direction. I really appreciate this info and will now attempt to find a copy of the 1687 arrival record. I realize that this has probably been discussed many times, but that was before I and many others began researching. As I subscribe to both Ancestry.com & Kindred Konnection I can tell you that I have NEVER seen any info for this arrival date on either location, lots of info regarding a 1640 arrival & sourced with Col. Leslie Blankenship's publication. I have checked the digital records in the Library of VA as well, with no results. I will now contact the Henrico County for Records, using the 1687 date, and see if they have the info. I had done so earlier with a request for the 1640 date and was told they had no record. With so many records destroyed by natural causes, the Revolutionary & Civil War Fires it is difficult trying to document early history of some areas. Again thanks on behalf of all of us Novice researchers. We really appreciate it when someone takes the time to give us some direction, rather than just tell us we are wrong. Carrie Bias Hoffert