Hi KATHY , I'm so excited about the research you sent. There is a problem though. I am really new at this computer stuff and I don't understand when it tells me it doesn't recognize the jpg and I have to double click on My Computer. Is that a right or left click? and it seems there is a step missing. How do you do it? Thanks so much. DG

Send me the letter Sue, In the other format I could not open it. Try JpG. Thanks TT ----- Original Message ----- From: <MrsLady002@aol.com> To: <BLANKENSHIP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:29 PM Subject: RE: [BLANKENSHIP] Letter from John Walker (help with date) > Hi researchers, > I found this letter on a website I was using when I was looking for the > people that travled with Ralph Blankship. The list of names I have is: John > Walker, Thomas Mercey, John Tossill, Roger Roberts, John Howard, Sarah > Shepherd. I can not make out the date on top of the letter. Can any one > out there make it out for me, please. > If this is not the John Walker that ran around with Ralph around 1650-1700, > then I would quess that it was his son. I say this from the family chart I > did on the Walker family. Please take a look and let me know your thoughts > on the date. Thanks a million. > Sue > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > If you have copies of BLANKENSHIP documents - birth, marriage, military, baptism, death records, etc., please consider sharing a copy with Listowner for the compilation of a central source of BLANKENSHIP documents to be offered to list members in the near future. Contact BKAYMEL@aol.com for more information. >

Hi researchers, I found this letter on a website I was using when I was looking for the people that travled with Ralph Blankship. The list of names I have is: John Walker, Thomas Mercey, John Tossill, Roger Roberts, John Howard, Sarah Shepherd. I can not make out the date on top of the letter. Can any one out there make it out for me, please. If this is not the John Walker that ran around with Ralph around 1650-1700, then I would quess that it was his son. I say this from the family chart I did on the Walker family. Please take a look and let me know your thoughts on the date. Thanks a million. Sue

Thanks D, that is a good tip! haha I'm sure most were rolling when they seen that! Oh well live and learn more...I still think there has to be a reason for those weird names..(Cansus Eura Blankenship) for one example. They have been doing local segments on a lost civilization nearby having no background that they know of. (UTKnox University Study). One thing with computers, people can't see ya blush. haha TT ----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy pagano <dgpagano@earthlink.net> To: <BLANKENSHIP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: [BLANKENSHIP] LNU -UNK UNK > I remember I was so excitited when I first started doing genealogy and I > found Spouse as UNK UNK. > I thought I had found one of my Native American ancestors. DG > > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Griffith Subject: LNU > > I use the word Unknown for last name ie John Unknown and Mister or Miss > for first name, ie Miss Blankenship or Mister Jones, this way the meaning > is not mistaken for some name, you are not the first person to ask what > kind of name is LNU. > Sandy in Florida > > > << Is Lnu French?.......????????Liggon???????? I'm searching..TT >> > > > it is not French > > Lnu means Last name unknown > > > > Fnu meas First name unknown > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > Do not forward virus hoaxes or chain letters to mailing lists. For more information, send email to the List Manager, BKAYMEL@aol.com >

Hi all, I have recently found out that ROBERT BELCHERS wife NANCY was in fact a Blankenship , not a BISHOP, i suspicion that she may have been married to a BISHOP before marrying my G GF ROBERT BELCHER..and also that she was born in 1850 not 1858, she was the daughter of Jesse and Hannah Allen Blankenship...She and Robert Belcher were married on 3-11-1886 in Wyoming Co WV and they had four known children... 1. INDIA FELIA BELCHER born 12-24-1886 died 6-20-1926 Logan Co WV married Andrew J Goodman Jr 12-29-1907 Wyo Co WV... 2. SUSAN BROOKE BELCHER (BROOKIE) born abt 1890-93, married 1st WM A Vaughn, 2nd HANNIBAL BLANKENSHIP SR, 3rd WM MATNEY....she died in 1963-64 Mingo Co WV 3. RECORD BELCHER born abt 1891 died unknown(have nothing on this child after 1900... 4. VIDA BELCHER born 1894 died after 1964 married 1st ?? CLINE 2nd MELVIN MOUNTS in Mingo Co WV(bielieve her 1st husband may have been EPP CLINE) Anyone with information on any of these people , Please contact me at bgoodman@kvinet.com Thanks for your time and paitience... Bea Goodman

I find it's easier & safer to use _________ [blank] for either name. No mix-up then. Kathy in Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: dorothy pagano <dgpagano@earthlink.net> To: <BLANKENSHIP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:01 PM Subject: [BLANKENSHIP] LNU -UNK UNK > I remember I was so excitited when I first started doing genealogy and I > found Spouse as UNK UNK. > I thought I had found one of my Native American ancestors. DG > > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Griffith Subject: LNU > > I use the word Unknown for last name ie John Unknown and Mister or Miss > for first name, ie Miss Blankenship or Mister Jones, this way the meaning > is not mistaken for some name, you are not the first person to ask what > kind of name is LNU. > Sandy in Florida > > > << Is Lnu French?.......????????Liggon???????? I'm searching..TT >> > > > it is not French > > Lnu means Last name unknown > > > > Fnu meas First name unknown > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > Do not forward virus hoaxes or chain letters to mailing lists. For more information, send email to the List Manager, BKAYMEL@aol.com > >

I have a couple of BELCHERS & a bunch of MATNEYS in WV. Maybe related? Let me know if you want files. I also have BLANKENSHIP & BISHOP names. Kathy in Nevada ----- Original Message ----- From: Bea Goodman <bgoodman@kvinet.com> To: <BLANKENSHIP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 5:28 PM Subject: [BLANKENSHIP] ROBERT BELCHER > Hi all, > I have recently found out that ROBERT BELCHERS wife NANCY was in fact a Blankenship , not a BISHOP, i suspicion that she may have been married to a BISHOP before marrying my G GF ROBERT BELCHER..and also that she was born in 1850 not 1858, she was the daughter of Jesse and Hannah Allen Blankenship...She and Robert Belcher were married on 3-11-1886 in Wyoming Co WV and they had four known children... > 1. INDIA FELIA BELCHER born 12-24-1886 died 6-20-1926 Logan Co WV married Andrew J Goodman Jr 12-29-1907 Wyo Co WV... > 2. SUSAN BROOKE BELCHER (BROOKIE) born abt 1890-93, married 1st WM A Vaughn, 2nd HANNIBAL BLANKENSHIP SR, 3rd > WM MATNEY....she died in 1963-64 Mingo Co WV > 3. RECORD BELCHER born abt 1891 died unknown(have nothing on this child after 1900... > 4. VIDA BELCHER born 1894 died after 1964 married 1st ?? CLINE 2nd MELVIN MOUNTS in Mingo Co WV(bielieve her 1st husband may have been EPP CLINE) > > Anyone with information on any of these people , Please contact me at bgoodman@kvinet.com > Thanks for your time and paitience... > Bea Goodman > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/p/i/c/Elva-M-Picklesimer/ Here you can find descendants of Rachel BLANKENSHIP. > >

I remember I was so excitited when I first started doing genealogy and I found Spouse as UNK UNK. I thought I had found one of my Native American ancestors. DG -----Original Message----- From: S. Griffith Subject: LNU I use the word Unknown for last name ie John Unknown and Mister or Miss for first name, ie Miss Blankenship or Mister Jones, this way the meaning is not mistaken for some name, you are not the first person to ask what kind of name is LNU. Sandy in Florida > > << Is Lnu French?.......????????Liggon???????? I'm searching..TT >> > > it is not French > Lnu means Last name unknown > > Fnu meas First name unknown > > Sue > > >

--part1_83.6000f3.26e98276_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Found this on the Barbour Co., W VA list. Does anyone have any idea what this is about? Has anyone had anything like this happen to them? D.H. --part1_83.6000f3.26e98276_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <WVBARBOU-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (rly-zd04.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.228]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:21:36 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-zd04.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 23:21:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e873JmK24968; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:19:48 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:19:48 -0700 X-Original-Sender: curtmalone@erols.com Wed Sep 6 20:19:47 2000 Message-ID: <002601c0187a$f57d9a20$dc87a4d8@cmalone6> From: "Curt Malone" <curtmalone@erols.com> Old-To: <WVBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Genealogy Scam ??? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 23:23:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <mNxiVB.A.mFG.Ulwt5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: WVBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WVBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WVBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/550 X-Loop: WVBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WVBARBOU-L-request@rootsweb.com I received this and several similar ones on various mailing lists. I'm not sure if there's a scam going on or not, but it might be prudent to investigate before plunking down your hard-earned cash to join. - Curt <quote> I received this message after it was forwarded to the INGENWEB state coordinator: About 2 weeeks ago we received a complaint from an Archives submitter that her materials were found on a genealogy subscription service: www.familydiscovery.com The submitter was able to do a little digging and found that they were linking to her files housed on her server, but shrink-wrapped inside a frame so it appears to be THEIR work. About 10 days ago, to investigate this, I signed up with familydiscovery. To date, I have not received a user id or password to get inside. The registered owners of the web site gave bogus telephone numbers in their registration. One number goes to a recorded message line; the other to a carpet company. Some of the e-mail adds on their web site bounce. Standing on the outside and looking through the window, it appears that several folks' web sites have been prize-mined: http://www.familydiscovery.com/whatsnew.htm The Storey Co., IA and the Washington Co., PA stuff seem to come from USGenWeb sites. Some of the other IA and NC stuff seems to come from non-USGW sites. None of the materials seem to be housed at either rootsweb or usgennet. If anyone out there is or has been a member of familydiscovery -- or has been ripped off by them, I ["Joy Fisher" jfisher@ucla.edu>] would like to hear from you. Permission is granted to forward this message. <unquote> --part1_83.6000f3.26e98276_boundary--

Bill, I have a friend Marlys Williams, with Blankenship's too. You can view her tree at MyFamily, well just click on Minerva Blankenship at Ancestry.com and it will come up. TT ----- Original Message ----- From: bill blankenship <billwb1@webtv.net> To: <BLANKENSHIP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [BLANKENSHIP] Edmund Blankenship & Edmund Hudson > Thanks Sue for getting back to me. If you do come across anything I > would appreciate you letting me know. I sure wish I could find > something on my grandparents. > > Thank You Bill Blankenship > > Searching the surnames of Adams, Blankenshp, Carpenter, Guinn/Guynn, > House, Hughes, McClain, Wilkerson and Williams. > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > Do not forward virus hoaxes or chain letters to mailing lists. For more information, send email to the List Manager, BKAYMEL@aol.com >

In a message dated 9/6/00 10:30:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BLANKENSHIP-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << 4 i. Rebecca W.4 Hudson, born Bet. 1811 - 1812 in Bedford Co., Va; > died 05 June 1892 in Floyd Co., Va. She married Solomon Kennett; born Abt. > 1798 in Bedford Co., Va; died 01 August 1860 in Floyd Co., Va. > >> REBECCA HUDSON and SOLOMON KENNETT above had a daughter MILDRED JANE KENNETT who married JAMES MONROE KING 16 Aug 1864 in Floyd Co., VA. Does anyone have sny information about the parents and/or siblings of JAMES MONROE KING? He is my ggrandfather and I have no info further back than him. I have his descendants if anyone is interested and would love to find something about his ancestors. Mary Ellen

I use the word Unknown for last name ie John Unknown and Mister or Miss for first name, ie Miss Blankenship or Mister Jones, this way the meaning is not mistaken for some name, you are not the first person to ask what kind of name is LNU. Sandy in Florida REPLY TO SandraG627@aol.com > In a message dated 9/6/2000 9:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > copperheadroad@dellnet.com writes: > > << Is Lnu French?.......????????Liggon???????? I'm searching..TT >> > > it is not French > Lnu means Last name unknown > > Fnu meas First name unknown > > Sue > > > ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== > West Virginia BLANKENSHIP's (Logan and Wyoming Counties) by Pam Blankenship Honaker can be found at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pamwvgen > >

If you upload your files to World Connect you will have them even if your house burns down and blows away, I also keep disks at home and at work Sandy in Florida REPLY TO SandraG627@aol.com

I show Elisha as the son of Isham Blankenship & Sarah Wilkinson. B ca 1754. Earnie MrsLady002@aol.com wrote: Hi All, I am up to my ear lobes in Blankenships from Bedford and Franklin Counties and I am having a blast trying to figure them all out. (Not really, this is a pain) Can any one tell me if this two name are the same person and if John B. Blankenship was Elisha's father?????????? s. Elisha Chesterfield Co>Bedford Co>NC>TN 1. Elisha1 Blankenship was born Abt. 1760 in VA, and died 20 June 1844 in VA. He married Elizabeth Ross. She died 30 December 1839. Child of Elisha Blankenship and Elizabeth Ross is: 2 i. John2 Blankenship, born Abt. 1794 in Franklin, Virginia. ==== BLANKENSHIP Mailing List ==== If you have copies of BLANKENSHIP documents - birth, marriage, military, baptism, death records, etc., please consider sharing a copy with Listowner for the compilation of a central source of BLANKENSHIP documents to be offered to list members in the near future. Contact BKAYMEL@aol.com for more information. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!

In a message dated 9/6/00 10:28:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mblankenship@mindspring.com writes: > Thomas Rice, born about 1811 [aged over 21 on 1836 Des Moines Co., Iowa > Territory census.] > Married: September 19, 1849, Patrick Co. VA, Ann T. Potter, daughter > of William and Nancy Potter, surety J. R. Brown. 1850 Patrick Co. census Thanks Mike, as you may know I have a William Potter and Nancy Kirby but they are too old to be Ann's parents, it would be a long shot if she was their g-child, they are part of the Alsup line which connects to Blankenship down the way at Lambert Descendants of Jurya Potter 1 Jurya Potter b: 1740-1745 in Virginia d: 25 June 1809 in Knox Co., KY Number of children: 13 . +John Alsop b: 1723 in Virginia m: 23 March 1762 in Goochland Co., VA d: 1807 in Knox Co., KY Number of children: 16 Father: William ALSOP Mother: .... 2 Samuel Alsup b: 1762-1972 d: in Tazewell Co., VA .... 2 Sarah Alsup b: 01 July 1763 in Goochland Co., VA d: Abt. 1853 in Tazewell Co., VA Number of children: 8 THEIR G-SON MARRIED MAHALA BLANKENSHIP ........ +Jeremiah Lambert b: Abt. 1763 in Norfolk Co., VA m: 29 January 1788 in Montgomery Co., VA d: Abt. August 1835 in Tazewell Co., VA Number of children: 8 Father: Philip LAMBERT Mother: Mary Ann HENDERSON .... 2 William Alsup b: 12 October 1764 in Goochland Co., VA d: Abt. 1837 in Lee Co., VA Number of children: 2 ........ +Elizabeth Unknown Number of children: 2 Father: Mother: .... 2 Frances Fanny Alsup b: 28 September 1766 in Goochland Co., VA ........ +Henry Day m: 16 August 1790 in Montgomery Co., VA Father: Mother: .... 2 Lucy Alsup b: 1767 in Virginia d: 02 February 1857 in Pulaski Co., KY ........ +Richard Hyden b: Abt. 1760 in Augusta Co., VA m: 08 September 1791 in Abington, Washington Co., VA d: Abt. 1830 in Pulaski Co., KY Father: Mother: .... 2 John Alsup b: 1767-1770 in Virginia d: 07 September 1824 in Jackson, IN ........ +Nancy Shoemaker b: 10 April 1791 in Tennessee m: 24 July 1806 in Knox Co., KY d: 13 August 1854 in Medora, IN Father: Mother: .... 2 Joseph Alsup b: Abt. 1770 in Botetourt Co., VA d: in Indiana .... 2 Catherine Caty Alsup b: 1770-1772 in Botetourt Co., VA d: in Bartholomew, IN Number of children: 1 ........ +William Taylor b: 1775 in Virginia m: 12 February 1795 in Goochland Co., VA d: Bef. 02 May 1853 in Brown Co., IN Number of children: 1 Father: Mother: .... 2 David Alsup b: Abt. 1773 in Botetourt Co., VA ........ +Martha Grant Father: Mother: .... 2 Mary Alsup b: Abt. 1776 in Botetourt Co., VA d: in Lee Co., VA .... 2 Daniel Alsup b: Abt. 1779 in Montgomery Co., VA d: 1826 in Tennessee Number of children: 1 ........ +Celia Howard m: 1808 in Harlan Co., KY Number of children: 1 Father: Thomas HOWARD Mother: Lettie DURHAM .... 2 James Alsup b: Abt. 1781 in Montgomery Co., VA d: Bef. 02 February 1846 in Martin Springs, Whitley Co., KY Number of children: 2 ........ +Anna Stewart m: 20 March 1805 in Knox Co., KY Number of children: 2 Father: Mother: .... 2 Dianah Juriah Alsup b: Abt. 1786 in Montgomery Co., VA ........ +Robert Livingston m: 27 January 1807 in Knox Co., KY Father: Mother: Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

Hi All, I am up to my ear lobes in Blankenships from Bedford and Franklin Counties and I am having a blast trying to figure them all out. (Not really, this is a pain) Can any one tell me if this two name are the same person and if John B. Blankenship was Elisha's father?????????? s. Elisha Chesterfield Co>Bedford Co>NC>TN 1. Elisha1 Blankenship was born Abt. 1760 in VA, and died 20 June 1844 in VA. He married Elizabeth Ross. She died 30 December 1839. Child of Elisha Blankenship and Elizabeth Ross is: 2 i. John2 Blankenship, born Abt. 1794 in Franklin, Virginia.

In a message dated 9/6/2000 10:30:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mblankenship@mindspring.com writes: << Thomas Rice, born about 1811 [aged over 21 on 1836 Des Moines Co., Iowa Territory census.] Married: September 19, 1849, Patrick Co. VA, Ann T. Potter, daughter of William and Nancy Potter, surety J. R. Brown. 1850 Patrick Co. census shows Ann Blankenship, aged 18, living in the household of William and Nancy Potter. Ann T. Blankenship, petitioned for divorce January 8, 1850, divorce grated by act of the Virginia General Assembly. [Acts of the General Assembly 1850-1851, page 197, VA State Archives; Journal of the (1850) House of Delegates, pages 128, 330, 447, VA State Archives. The first sentence of the original divorce petition found at the VA State Archives reads: "The petition of Ann T. Blankenship of the county of Patrick respectfully presents that on the 19th day of September 1849 she was married to one Thomas R. Blankenship of the County of Giles."] 1) Child mentioned in act of divorce. >> Hi all, I have been reading all the posts for the last month or so and I find this one very interesting. I think by now all of you know I show a keen favor to Ann Blankenship and her family in Mass. I have so many questions about her and James that I want to find out more and more. I just when into my database looking for a William Blankenship that married Nancy Potter. I do not have that family listed. But what I did find is a Eliza Ann Potter married to George II Bonum Nye. I already know from my research that the Blankenships in Mass. (Ann and James) were kin to the NYE family. So while I can not help with the Nancy Potter, you may have helped me with a lead to research more in Ann's family. Thanks, Sue

Hi Sandy, This is all I have in my records for Thomas Rice Blankenship, son of John and Mary Ann Dillion Blankenship. If you're really interested and need a copy of the divorce papers let me know. ++++++++++++++++ Thomas Rice, born about 1811 [aged over 21 on 1836 Des Moines Co., Iowa Territory census.] Married: September 19, 1849, Patrick Co. VA, Ann T. Potter, daughter of William and Nancy Potter, surety J. R. Brown. 1850 Patrick Co. census shows Ann Blankenship, aged 18, living in the household of William and Nancy Potter. Ann T. Blankenship, petitioned for divorce January 8, 1850, divorce grated by act of the Virginia General Assembly. [Acts of the General Assembly 1850-1851, page 197, VA State Archives; Journal of the (1850) House of Delegates, pages 128, 330, 447, VA State Archives. The first sentence of the original divorce petition found at the VA State Archives reads: "The petition of Ann T. Blankenship of the county of Patrick respectfully presents that on the 19th day of September 1849 she was married to one Thomas R. Blankenship of the County of Giles."] 1) Child mentioned in act of divorce. +++++++++++++++++ Sorry I don't have the name of the child. Cousin Mike -----Original Message----- From: SandraG627@aol.com <SandraG627@aol.com> To: mblankenship@mindspring.com <mblankenship@mindspring.com> Date: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: Re: ann potter >In a message dated 9/2/00 10:29:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >mblankenship@mindspring.com writes: >> Ann Potter divorced Thomas Rice Blankenship. There are extensive >> divorce records in the VA State Archives. He married Ann, got her >pregnant, >> then one day said he was going to town and never came back. They had a >> child. >Hi Mike, >do you have the name of the child or any dates for Ann? maybe the Indians got >old Robt! Did you also mean that my William and Nancy Potter are not her >parents? did she marry anyone else? thanks > >Descendants of William Potter > > 1 William Potter b: 29 October 1772 d: 26 February 1827 > >. +Nancy Kirby b: 23 October 1781 d: 11 March 1844 >Father: Mother: > >Thanks for writing. >Sandy in Florida >[Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> >Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

In a message dated 9/6/2000 9:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, copperheadroad@dellnet.com writes: << Is Lnu French?.......????????Liggon???????? I'm searching..TT >> it is not French Lnu means Last name unknown Fnu meas First name unknown Sue

In a message dated 9/6/2000 8:43:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, billwb1@webtv.net writes: << Hi Some of my Blankenships was from Illnois. Gilbert Blankenship was my grandfather who was born there but I cann't find anything on him. Would you know anything about him or anyone related to him. He was married to a Isabell House do you have any info on them. Thank You Bill Blankenship >> Hi Bill, I do not have anything on Gilbert and Isabell right now, BUT I am adding names to my file daily. I will print out this e-mail and if I should run across anything I will let you know or post it to the poating site. Sue