hi everyone! i wante to let you kow there is a new list it's [email protected] to subscribe go to [email protected] and write subscribe in subject. it's for people who had German ancestors in and around Phila. since at one time many of the surrounding counties were part of Phila at one time. if any questions please contact me at [email protected] thank you take care kathy Researching; DOUGHERTY, BRENNAN, MACDONALD, MCLAUGHLIN, GORDON, SHEPHARD, in Ireland, Pennsylvania RENZ (RENTZ), VOLLMER (FULLMER), SCHUMACHER (SHOEMAKER), HUTHER, MULLER (MUELLER), in Germany, Ohio or Indiana BAER, PASZOTA, SHUTT (SCHUTT) in Germany, Delaware, Indiana or Philadelphia --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my home page: http://community.webtv.net/kathy556/DoughertyGordonBaer