hi!! i'm here! haha mine were German blacksmiths named Peter VOLLMER born 1793 in Schmitshausen Germany and his son Adam born 1835 in Quirnsbach Germany (both in the Rheinland-Pfalz area) they immigrated to the US in 1854 and moved right out to Stark county OH the name was spelled FULMER or FULLMER in OH. then they moved on to Huntington County IN. o the 1860 and 1870 census it says they were blacksmiths, then in 1880 it says farmer. also i believe my Adam BAER born 1860 in Germany immigrated to Phila PA or Wilmington DE, was a blacksmith, he died in 1890 right before the birth of my gr,grandfather Frank was born. take care and good luck!! kathy in PA Researching; Dougherty, McLaughlin, Gordon, MacDonald, Brennan and Shephard in Ireland, Canada and Phila PA Vollmer (Fulmer), Renz (Rentz), Schumacher (Shoemaker), Muller and Huther in Germany, Ohio and Indiana Baer (Beyer), Paszotta and Shutt in Germany, Delaware, Indiana and Philadelphia ----------------------------------------- list "mom" for; [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] ----------------------------------------- my home page: http://community.webtv.net/kathy556/DoughertyGordonBaer