----- Original Message ----- From: "carleeh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Jeff Boreham" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: Blacksmith My Great-Great Grandfather George Boreham was a Blacksmith in Los Angeles and or the County of San Bernardino about the year 1854 - 1865,1874, also George Boreham was Blacksmith in Marin County between about 1868 - 1873, 1875 - 1882. My Great Grandfather William John Boreham followed in his father's trade of Blacksmith in San Bernardino California 1880 he is listed on the 1880 census as Blacksmith, also William John Boreham was a Blacksmith/Engineer at Fort Mojave Arizona from June 1, 1881 - September 1884, and 1885 - 1886 William Boreham was Blacksmith/Engineer at Fort Mojave Arizona per Washington D.C. National Archives record, also William J. Boreham is listed 1898 San Bernardino California County Directory as a Blacksmith in Hesperia, Victor California. If you would like further information send e-mail to [email protected]

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Hi kts' You wrote:- >Wanting to know if anyone's ancestors were coppersmiths? >Tinkers? Tinsmiths? >Blacksmithing, silversmithing, coppersmithing (especially)... >Possible names: >Schmidt, Schmitt, Schmit, Kessler, Kessel, Kupfer, >Kupferschmidt,Schmeder, >Tinker... > >Any more? Smith? Interestingly, my Grandfather, Thomas Moyes, was a blacksmith in Edinburgh and he called his workshop "the smiddy". I suppose this is the Scottish equivalent of smithy. Any comments -- Gordon S McKean Dumfries, Scotland Mailto:[email protected] http://www.mckean2.demon.co.uk Updated June 20 2001 Have you visited the new D & G Family History Society Website ? http://www.dgfhs.org.uk

Just last night ran across an occupation in a 1926 city directory listed as "Tinner". Not exactly sure what that is but perhaps something along this line of Tinsmith, Tinker etc ? Cheers, Susie __________________________________________________________________ I think my new thing will be to try to be a real happy guy. I'll just walk around being real happy until some jerk says something stupid to me. - J a c k H a n d y S u s i e H a s t i n g s [email protected] > Greetings, > > Wanting to know if anyone's ancestors were coppersmiths? > Tinkers? Tinsmiths? > > Blacksmithing, silversmithing, coppersmithing (especially)... > > Possible names: > Schmidt, Schmitt, Schmit, Kessler, Kessel, Kupfer, > Kupferschmidt,Schmeder, > Tinker... > > Any more? > > Sincerely, > kts

Greetings, Wanting to know if anyone's ancestors were coppersmiths? Tinkers? Tinsmiths? Blacksmithing, silversmithing, coppersmithing (especially)... Possible names: Schmidt, Schmitt, Schmit, Kessler, Kessel, Kupfer, Kupferschmidt,Schmeder, Tinker... Any more? Sincerely, kts ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

This Chart is very useful -- much appreciation to Diana for posting it for us to use. Happy researching, Judy Diana Boothe wrote: > > I found this website, thanks to another list that I am a member of, and > just had to pass it on!! It seems to be a MOST helpful resource..... > "Chart Used To Calculate The Year Of Birth From The Census" > http://jerry.vigo.lib.in.us/washington/CENDATES.HTM > > Take care, > > Diana

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______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From: The Big Oak Flat Road to Yosemite, by Margaret Schlichtmann & Irene Paden, first published in 1955; begins middle of page 133 (Chapter VI : The Big Oak on the Flat) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...Blacksmith shops were lively places. James Mecartea was far too busy making picks at one dollar apiece and ox shoes, six for seventy cents, to think of gold dust except as a means of exchange. So it happened that the ground under his smithy was never panned. When his numerous children asked for spending money it was his custom to suggest that they take a pan and shovel and repair to the cellar which, on several notable occasions, they actually did. During this decade it was usual to be paid for blacksmith work in produce as money was scarce. The Golden Rock Water Company paid in cash and was considered a very special customer. <snip> ...Indian women were hired to help Elvira Smith Mecartea with (page 134) the enormous washings and heavy cleaning, but just to bake bread for so many was a chore almost inconceivable today. A housewife of that generation earned her passage through the world. All clothes for women and some for boys were generally made at home; but in respect to the sewing problem, Mrs. Mecartea was lucky. Only one of her thirteen children was a girl -- Alice, a blonde and notably pretty. At the age of seventy-five James Mecartea contracted pneumonia and quit work and this life at the same time. His son Austin took over and kept up the business until automobiles replaced the horse-drawn vehicles, when he locked the heavy iron doors of his shop with the five-inch key and retired into the old family home. Like many another mountain bachelor he used only the kitchen, a bedroom and side porch. Most of the cupboards had not been opened for so many years that they had lost the knack and Austin had long since forgotten what was in them. In the garden the figs still bore, the roses bloomed spicily and the grape arbor increased to tremendous size. Eugene lived just across the street. On the edge of his front porch stood a rain barrel where dozens of song birds drank while a neighbor's cat with sleepy eyes but switching tail sat nearby and schemed. The brothers spent hours together on one porch or the other and, on many unhurried occasions, told us of their happy childhood, of how the thirteen young Mecarteas worked, played, studied, got sick and got well again. "We didn't have many doctors and they lived a long way off," said Austin reminiscently. "There was Dr. Williamson in early days when the mines were good but in my time Dr. Lampson of Chinese Camp would have to ride up here in a great emergency. But the women folks could handle most kinds of sickness. Our mother could anyway." END ==============================================================================================================

In a message dated 3/25/2002 12:46:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > My g grandfather Israel > Nicholas Mc Carty according to the 1910 CENSUS in Ewing Twp., Franklin Co., > IL was a Blacksmith and owned his own shop. How do I prove this info? Hi, Lin.........you might also check any property tax records for that area. The LDS have microfilmed many old tax records, so you might start by going to their internet site and running a search for that locality to see what might be available. (I am assuming that you do not live near that county. If you did, you could probably do a search at the courthouse.) Property tax records from that era sometimes include a description of the buildings owned. Good luck...... Donna in SW PA

Hi Lin, Try finding a city directory for the time frame that your relative was there. They list the names of all the stores, banks, churches, etc. I have a copy of the 1898 Harrisburg, Saline, IL directory and it lists the blacksmiths by name with their address. Darlene in TX.

Lorenz Husser arrived New Orleans, 1839 from Alsace Lorraine. He was a blacksmith and wheelwright. He settled Husser in Tangipahoa Parish in Louisiana. His two sons are listed as a blacksmith and wheelwright in the 1870 census. I have been trying to find out where Lorenz came from in Alsace Loraine. Any way to track blacksmithing over there? Nita Husser Murphy

Hi Lin, Have had some luck finding info on my blacksmith ancestor, Abner J. FARTHING who practiced from 1850-1890 in NC, TN, AR. & TX. There are some city directories, county histories, and railroad business directories (for cities along their lines). They are available in the local libraries, historical societies, and archives. Also his son John was working as a blacksmith. So you might check records on other members of the family. Let us know if you have any luck. Good hunting, Barbara On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:42:31 -0500 "RICHARD A BROOKS" <[email protected]> writes: > I need some help and don't know how to find it. My g grandfather > Israel > Nicholas Mc Carty according to the 1910 CENSUS in Ewing Twp., > Franklin Co., > IL was a Blacksmith and owned his own shop. How do I prove this > info? Any > suggestions? > Thanks > Lin > > > ==== BLACKSMITHING Mailing List ==== > List Mom for the BLACKSMITHING mailing list: > Diana Boothe > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I need some help and don't know how to find it. My g grandfather Israel Nicholas Mc Carty according to the 1910 CENSUS in Ewing Twp., Franklin Co., IL was a Blacksmith and owned his own shop. How do I prove this info? Any suggestions? Thanks Lin

I have an uncle in Baltimore, MD, who went from blacksmithing to becoming a veterinarian. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Cliff & Pat Luce [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BLACKSMITHING] Re: Horses to Horseless.. Susie asked--- "Has anyone noticed that as a pattern or a common transition as the world moved from horses to horseless carriages?' My grandpa Willard moved into welding on farm equipment, and whatever else came his way to weld. He made some nice umbrella shaped outdoor flower pot hangers, and did some wood working. I don't remember whether he ever got into auto mechanics or not. Pat ==== BLACKSMITHING Mailing List ==== List Mom for the BLACKSMITHING mailing list: Diana Boothe [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Just noticed...It was 1926 they opened that shop. Not 1936!! Pat

Hello Lin, You could try to locate a 1910 City directory for the city/town he was in or near. Perhaps someone familiar with Illinois research could guide you through that. Best wishes, Judy RICHARD A BROOKS wrote: > > I need some help and don't know how to find it. My g grandfather Israel > Nicholas Mc Carty according to the 1910 CENSUS in Ewing Twp., Franklin Co., > IL was a Blacksmith and owned his own shop. How do I prove this info? Any > suggestions? > Thanks > Lin > > ==== BLACKSMITHING Mailing List ==== > List Mom for the BLACKSMITHING mailing list: > Diana Boothe > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Susie asked--- "Has anyone noticed that as a pattern or a common transition as the world moved from horses to horseless carriages?' My grandpa Willard moved into welding on farm equipment, and whatever else came his way to weld. He made some nice umbrella shaped outdoor flower pot hangers, and did some wood working. I don't remember whether he ever got into auto mechanics or not. Pat

I too am a descendant of a blacksmith/farrier. My great-grandfather, Michael J Hogan was a farrier from County Tipperary, Ireland. He applied his trade first in St. Louis, MO working for Anheuser-Bush. He was the foreman in charge of the famous Budweiser Clydsdales in the 1890's. Unfortunately, Anheuser-Bush did not keep any employee records until about 1913, and by then, Michael had moved to Chicago where he was listed as a horseshoer in the city directory until his death in 1935. Dan Hogan

It does seem a promising list! Around 1936, my maternal grandfather, Dallis Willard, and his brother-in-law, George Russell, bought a blacksmith shop in Vermillion, Ks. That's in Marshall County, in the NE part of Kansas, about 9 miles south of the Nebraska line. When Uncle George moved to California in 1941, Grandpa bought his share, and ran it himself until the 1960's. (Am not sure when he gave it up.) It was across the street from a small elevator. I can still see, in my minds eye, the corn cobs spilling out of that elevator. The shop itself was just an old rectangular building, covered with brown, brick-look asphalt siding as far back as I can remember. It had a partial loft, possibly with a little office in it. I'm not sure about that. I have a photo of grandpa and his son, Lawrence Willard, (who later became a Methodist preacher) in the shop. I can never look at it with-out the feeling of being there, smelling the smells of the forge, and all that went with it, and hearing the clang of the anvil. Grandpa has been gone for many years, but the last time I was in the town, a couple of years ago, the building was still standing, abandoned, and surrounded by weeds. The elevator was torn down years ago. I also had a gggrandfather on my paternal side, who was a black- smith, but I don't know which surname, or where. His name was probably Barber, or Raybourn. In the photo I have of him, he has a long, scraggly beard, and is standing beside an anvil. The only information with it was in my Grandpa Raybourn's writing, saying that he thought it was one of his grandfathers. The name also might have been Zeigler or Hudson. Maybe someone out there will have a blacksmith ancestor with one of those names. Pat Luce

Hello, I'm continuing our Mecartea/Mccartea blacksmithing family sage from the Southern Mines. Judy in California ============================================================================================================= From: The Big Oak Flat Road to Yosemite, by M. Schlichtmann & Irene Paden, first published in 1955. This begins on page 132 near end (Chapter VI The Big Oak on the Flat) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...James Mecartea moved his family from Chinese Camp to Big Oak Flat in 1872 buying a pretty frame house, already old, which had belonged to the merchant Michael Noziglia. Next to the house but separated by an ancient grape arbor was a stone building which the latter had used as a general store and which Mecartea converted into a smithy by adding a layer of earth on the roof as a precaution against fire. In spite of this forethought the building was gutted many years later, laying bare a neat hole under the cellar steps which had been the hiding place of Mr. Noziglia's gold dust. In considering the two men last named it seems a good time to (page 133) say that we disclaim all responsibility for the spelling of the proper names so well known in the Southern Mines. Members of the same family often had varying ideas and even individuals refused to be coerced and, from time to time, used a bewildering assortment of spellings. Where we have found a signature on a legal document we have adopted it as probably correct and, to save confusion, have used it to designate all members of that family. To the eleven Mecartea children who had arrived in Chinese camp were added two more, born in the new home. The last child before they moved was Austin. The first after coming to Big Oak Flat was Eugene. These two brothers became landmarks in the town and never left it. At some time Mecartea ran a smithy farther went down the main street on a lot just east of what is called "the big stone building," but the exact date is not known. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------