In a message dated 4/27/2003 9:30:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I also believe that other generations of MARKHAM'S were blacksmiths in and > around E. Yorkshire - such as Wressle, S. Cave and other places - Hi, Freda.......I don't have any information for you, but have you considered posting your query to YORKSGEN-L? If you don't get any assistance from this List, Yorksgen might be the next place for you to try. Pehaps someone there is searching the surname MARKHAM. Also, if you are not familiar with the GENUKI pages, you might find this one useful: <A HREF="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html">http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html</A> There are trade directories posted for many locations, which you can search alphabetically. Blacksmiths are always listed in trade directories, although not ALL of the blacksmiths in a given location. Generally, the chief smith will be listed, but not necessarily those working for him. So, if your man is not named in a directory, it does not necessarily mean he wasn't there. But it is always worth a look. Good luck.......... Donna Edwards-Jordan

Hi, I am new to this list and hoping that someone is able to help me. I am looking for information regarding my g.granddad THOMAS WILLIAM MARKHAM. He was born in Hull in 1863. He was a Blacksmith and I am told by relations that he won prizes at the Harrogate show for blacksmithing. Will there be any records surviving giving such information? I believe that he left the marital home and any details of his whereabouts other than Hull would be greatly appreciated. I also believe that other generations of MARKHAM'S were blacksmiths in and around E. Yorkshire - such as Wressle, S. Cave and other places - any information regarding these also very welcome. Many thanks in anticipation Freda Good Malvern, Worcs.

Greetings from Western Australia Listers! I have just joined this list having found it via Cyndislist.com. I am trying to find records of Blacksmiths in Cornwall in General. But, more specifically, I am interested in Charles Retallack who seems to have been a Blacksmith in the 1830's in Menagissey, St Agnes, Cornwall. He was married in 1835 in St Agnes to the widow Julia NETTLE, but he seems to have died before 1841 or definitely before 1846 (when his wife married for the third time) after siring two children. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it. TIA Regards, Nigel BOUNDY Western Australia --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I have just discovered that in addition to my Dorset GILLINGHAMS and HANSFORDS, I am descended from blacksmiths named HILL living in Bramham and Clifford (between York and Leeds) in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries - in particular, according to Baines's Directory of 1822, THOMAS HILL in Bramham, and ROBERT HILL in nearby Clifford. If anyone is researching this family, I should be very pleased to be in contact. Best wishes Ann

Thanks Dan! I ended up spending hours at that site looking at the Chicago my grandparents first found in 1925. Regards, Linda in Boston

I found a website from the Library of Congress throught another list. It contains pictures from the Chicago Daily News from 1902-1929. If you go to the home page and click on the Search button, type in Blacksmith or Horseshoe and you will get a few pictures of blacksmiths and their shops from the early 1900's. Dan Hogan The url is, http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/ndlpcoop/ichihtml/cdnhome.html

Hello listmates: I have just joined this list. My grandfather was a blacksmith. Can anyone recommend books about smithing, especially in the early 20th century? My grandfather, Wilhelm Altenkamp, practiced his tradein Germany and later in Chicago. He was apprenticed as a boy in the Essen area around 1910. In WWI, he was a machine gunner in the Germany army, but I have a picture of him in his army hat at the anvil, so he must have also done some smithing. In the early 1920's, he worked for Krupps in Essen. He emmigrated to Chicago IL in 1925 and set up his own shop a few years later. My mother recalls stopping by the shop on her way home from school to watch him work. In the later years, he did mostly household repairs, since horse-drawn vehicles had disappeared. Sometime in the late 30's or early 40's, he closed his shop and became an industrial welder at Continental Can Company in Chicago. He retired in 1961. Would appreciate recommended reading, and would like to hear about other blacksmith ancestors. Does the list have an archive? Regards, Linda in Boston

Greetings Listers. Has anyone any info on Richard BREEZE, blacksmith of Pontesbury, Shropshire circa early 1820 - 1830, please. Any help will be greatly appreciated.Happy New Year (and hunting) to all. Cheers, Bea,Dorset, UK

Hi everyone, I am new to the list and to geneology. Would a coach smith and farrier smith come under this list? I am looking for info on an Edward Fennemore who (according to daughters birth and marriage certs) lived and worked in the county of Surrey, Registration district St Saviour, London, England at least from 1876 til 1894. Also my grandfather Frederick Alexander Palmer was a farrier-smith (making horseshoes, I believe) from at least 1925 til 1949, again in Wandsworth Surrey area, London. Hope I am on the right list and any info/guidance appreciated. Karen Adelaide Australia

I am interested in a Sorenson of Denmark who may have also worked with bronze as art... Recently came across a beautiful art deco item by this gentleman and would like to know more about him. K ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

Thorvald PETERSEN became the owner of the blacksmith shop in Dike, Iowa in 1917. He operated the blacksmith shop on the corner of State and Fourth Streets (one block east of the main Dike corner) from 1917 until retiring in 1957. >From an undated newspaper article: ³The shop was built in 1902 by a Danish blacksmith, Theodore Juhl, who later sold it to Tom Porter of Reinbeck who had it until his death in 1907. Then the shop was sold to Walter Jensen of Clear Lake who operated it until 1913 when Matt Paulsen of Mason City took over. On Jan. 1 1917 Thorvald Petersen purchased the shop and continued his trade as ³village blacksmith² until 1958 when ill health prevented him from further work.²

We would like to find any information on my wife's great aunt's family. Fred Sørensen (b.c. 1875 Denmark) was a blacksmith in Cicero (from at least about 1910). His wife was Marie (Smith-Petersen), and we are fairly certain there were two children: perhaps Fred and Carl. We have an old undated newspaper article (an undated clipping from the Indianapolis News) celebrating Fred¹s 61 years at the shop in Cicero (he had also celebrated his 80th birthday in the article written about 1950). The article also suggested that he had lived in Cicero since 1885.

hello i'm researching ELWOOD M CLAPPER born 1894 in Blair County PA on the 1930 census he is listed as a blacksmith for the RR. kathy list "mom" for; [email protected] Germans-OH-StarkCo-L Blinn-L Brauch-L Hamby-L Hofmann-L Paszotta-L Schumacher-L Vollmer-L family tree;http://community-2.webtv.net/kathy556/DoughertyGordonBaer

Greetings all, With the kind permission of this list's administrator, I am submitting the URL of my non-profit website, "The American Blacksmith." Please enjoy! http://www.blackiron.us/ Fred Smoot -- The closer you look, the farther you see. (Cavagnaro's Axiom)

Thankyou for your reply it is a help to get someone else's opinion. thankyou Ann Roots

Hello, Ann.....A really good research tool for you to try would be the on-line version of the International Genealogical Index (IGI). The search page is: http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchigi.asp I went there and filled in the forms as "Francis Sharp", requested the birth/christening, for "British Isles" and "England". I set the date at 1767, since you have this, but I added the "year range" as + or - 5 years. Dates of birth that you get from the census are sometimes not too exact. I find it best to add in a range of years to search, just in case your date is off by a year or two. If you fill out the search form as I did, and click on "search" you will see, as I did , that there are several "Francis Sharps" listed born within that range of years for England. However, I think you'll find your fellow born in London....look and see what you think. I'd bet on #9. I am just making a guess, that if your fellow was married in London, he'd likely have been born there. (Of course, I could be wrong. Young men born in the countryside did go to the big city to seek their fortunes! ) If you click on his name, you can see the names of his parents, and discover the exact code number for the film (source code) of that parish register. If you'd like to see the exact entry for this christening, you order that film at any Mormon Family History Library, and they will get it on loan for you. I hope this is of some help to you. If you have problems using the website, re-post and I (or someone else) will try to help out. Good luck........... Donna Edwards-Jordan (in the USA, researching the SNOWDON blacksmiths of Yorkshire and Pennsylvania)

I have an ancestor a Francis Sharp (Blacksmith) he is on the 1841 census for Slaters Alley London. He was born about 1767 but I do not know where. Married to Elizabeth Logan 1796 St Marys Rotherhithe. I wondered if anyone can help I have no trace of him being a Blacksmith only as the occupation listed in 1841. Thankyou Ann Roots

My ggf was a blacksmith in Co Tyrone, Ireland. There is a list of all the blacksmiths registered for each county in Ireland in a sessional paperfor a House of Commons proceedings. I found the papers in Kew PRO - there were none for Tyrone and none for Londonderry but a whole heap for Donegal. I spent an hour or so transcribing the Donegal list only for someone to tell me it has already been published somewhere. I am happy to forward it to this list or to anyone who wants a copy. Rachel Dysart

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