The List is currently under moderation. the reasons are as follows. This action is to forestall a attack planned by those who have been banned from the lists. <<> >> >> I wonder how long it will be before the hammer drops--it's unusual for >> Jeff >> not to check in and surely he must have expected SOMETHING to come up on >> the list in honor of Jack court date. >> > >> Over the last week or so I have been working to keep the Topic of Jack's trial off the list as a topic. This wasn't a popular decision with 12 people. Periodically I have also recieved direct mail from various members of that group which indicated that they were on the list under aliases, and attempting to reignite the fires which lost this list 60 % of it's subscribers in a four week period. (Down from 350+ to less than 200) Various individuals have also been posting directly to some list members behind the scenes, and harrassing them. ONE of those has lost an ISP account, which she has re-established on another server. This was a direct result of the communications I personally had with the abuse department of her server, and provided copies of her messages submitted by her victims. One recent subscriber used the name BobHansen, an impersonation. That person's identity is known to me, as well as some of the other aliases that were in use. [email protected] was another. As soon as the ban on the Child Pornography subject went up, the person resubbed and qualified as a relative of a near Identical case. This was (immediately suspicious) a (now) proven scam to disrupt the list, and debase the manager's authority to set the topics. > My Uncle was involved in a child pornography ring on the internet. And was > busted last year. He was the casue of all the yahoo groups beong shut down > by the FBI. > > He had started a members only group , by invite only, For parents who like > to use there own children in porno movies.... (amazing about that comment re: private Yahoo Groups designed for nefarious purposes) I did recieve several emails that indicated this was happening directly from the parties involved. <<[email protected] writes: > > damn he wont post my answer. > >> >>> It depends on what the info is. I definatley put in the info of my >>> Pedophile uncle. I know he is one and it is my duty to protect any >>> children he may come into contact with. Hiding this info could be >>> detramental to a childs life. >>> I know this as I was molested as a child , by a Catholic Preist. >>> >> >> I didn't post this answer because by this time I knew that Bob was a planted addressee. Here is a response from one of the others, reaL NAME OMITTED. << > . Was that the first response from you (Bob) to Morgan? If so, don't > despair. Scism sent it to me in private mail. I don't know what game he > is playing. Maybe he'll post it to the list later. I posted a response to > you, (to the list) quoting your message, and that hasn't posted either. > > Sparrow, aka Morgan>> > >> I don't think anyone who is on the lists now should say anything controversial. I think the things that are sent should be mostly genealogy and friendly. After Jack is sentenced then, that's when bombs should be dropped if they are. >> A follow-up answer: <<Let me know where you want the bombs dropped<g>..... Old Crow>> Then to me personally: <<From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Are you having fun at your little game. Protecting a child molester. Did you order some of his videos? I still cant believe how dumb you are , not to have caught me on my request to join... LOL>> From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> oh bull sh*t you did not know... or you wouldnt have let me in, So you did get some tapes... did you enjoy them... you are a sicko you are the one who should be worried... deleting evidence , hiding a child molester. buying kiddie porn videos. Some of the privately sent mail to our list members included choice comments, like the following: <<> >> Oh God!! You must be as sick as your friends Jeff and Jack.>> <<CHILD MOLESTATION IS NOT FOOLISHNESS... There is another child missing...>> << > I don't condone Child molesters, or approve of anyone helping them to hide > the fact. > Nor do I hide there dirty laundry,,,, it needs to be hung from the highest tree. And he needs to be castrated... >> << I just received 2 emails from Jack Childers and they both contained downloads, I haven't dared look at it and and am not about to download it. >> (How can he send email from a Jail cell? and an address on one of the "Dirty Dozen's" servers? This is what caused the loss of THAT ISP account) On July 20th, twelve former members of the IBSSG started a mail group on Yahoogroups. I was informed, that this group was forming on July 7th. (Yes two weeks before it was formed on Yahoogroups) The PRIVATE group is called "The_Dirty_Dozen" and has amassed over 1500 messages since that date. It is a group designed to promote sabotaging IBSSG. So far Yahoo is unresponsive to my obvious questions. The mail lists will be "moderated" and appropriate emails will be forwarded, those that are not "on-topic" will NOT. I hope everyone understands the reasons for these actions. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?