I had one of those spiked balls on the end of a chain once and the police confiscated it and threatened to have me arrested for possession of a dangerous weapon. This was many years ago in the early 60's in Los Angeles. Jack Childers in OKC International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" Jaxone1234@msn.com