I think we on this list are seers. We talk about something and bingo, the next few days that very subject comes up in my newspapers. In todays paper there is a front page article about child molesters being released due to a court order here in OKlahoma. As part of the sex offender program in Oklahoma prisons, the one I mentioned just a few days ago, the participants were required to not only admit guilt about the crime they were currently incarcerated, but also tell all about any other crimes they had committed. If they did not tell all they lost good time, which made them stay in the prison longer. So some of them took it to court and the court ruled May 9th that such practices were unconstitutional because the men, in being required to admit all details of past crimes were in effect incriminating themselves and could have additional charges filed against them, and as we all know, our US constitution does not require anyone to incriminate themself. While I agree with the legal rational of the ruling (it was unconstitutional), the end result of the ruling is that this past Thursday and Friday they released 11 sex offenders to the streets all at once, with an additional 22 possible releases. I was surprised to find out that we have 2200 sex offenders in prison in OKlahoma. By the way, the man, a convicted sex offender, who filed the law suit was named Gary Dean Childers !!!!! He is not related to me that I know of. Jack Childers in OKC International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" Jaxone1234@msn.com