What is Melugeons? Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > With the backgrounds you & Edrie furnished, Jan, I wouldn't be one bit > surprised if you discovered that the Hardin bunch was Melungeon...they sure > sound a lot like some of my ancestors (and, as I've said before, I have the > Melungeons on BOTH sides!). > > Mike > IBSSG > > > [Original Message] > > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 5/6/2002 6:06:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > Edire, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like most of the "removals" were > > done by 1833, and the land was pretty well handed out to settlers by 1835. > > > > You got me to thinking about my Hardin cousins. One of them married Alex > > Shaw, the Irish immigrant whose property was next to the reservation. The > > Hardins, family of Sukie Hardin--Alex' wife, lived in Franklin Co. GA, > right > > on the border with SC. But, they weren't Cherokee, near as I can tell, I > did > > some checking today. They later moved to TX, most because they wanted to, > > three because they were running from a murder conviction, but that's > another > > story. > > > > Jan G. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Edrie Broughton" <etfoam@inreach.com> > > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:42:35 -0700 > > > > The rest of the Dorsey researchers and I have kicked that around. David > > Dorsey we don't think was Indian or Melungeon but think that Mary Martin > may > > very well have been. Sarah must have had a dark complexion to have the > > Black Dutch explanation used for her at least to her children or > > grandchildren. The chart says that she was born of German parents and > > brought as a very young child. Her husband having been German, probably > > with the appropriate accent may have helped the fiction. When asked on > > Census reports however she said she was born in SC and parents born in NC. > > David and Mary Martin Dorsey came south out of Macon County, NC to > Pendleton > > district SC, then on to Habersham (later White Co.), GA. They must have > > maintained ties in both NC and SC because their children bounced back and > > forth. All these areas were strongly Cherokee. Since the removals began > > when Mary and David were doing all this moving, I suspect they were > avoiding > > the Army. > > > > EdrieAnne IBSSG > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > --- > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > > each individual submitter. > > > > The Blacksheep Message boards are at: > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac > ksheep > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > > This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > > A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > --- Shuler Michael > --- grinch42@mindspring.com > --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

visit this webaddress http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyrockca/mul1.htm to learn about some Melungeon theories! I find this very interesting - we have all the "Melungeon" Characteristics in my family - but I can't find any census type evidence listing anyone as anything but white. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ava Fischer" <res0f1lp@verizon.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > What is Melugeons? > Whitewolf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:35 PM > Subject: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > With the backgrounds you & Edrie furnished, Jan, I wouldn't be one bit > > surprised if you discovered that the Hardin bunch was Melungeon...they > sure > > sound a lot like some of my ancestors (and, as I've said before, I have > the > > Melungeons on BOTH sides!). > > > > Mike > > IBSSG > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 5/6/2002 6:06:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > > > > Edire, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like most of the "removals" were > > > done by 1833, and the land was pretty well handed out to settlers by > 1835. > > > > > > You got me to thinking about my Hardin cousins. One of them married Alex > > > Shaw, the Irish immigrant whose property was next to the reservation. > The > > > Hardins, family of Sukie Hardin--Alex' wife, lived in Franklin Co. GA, > > right > > > on the border with SC. But, they weren't Cherokee, near as I can tell, I > > did > > > some checking today. They later moved to TX, most because they wanted > to, > > > three because they were running from a murder conviction, but that's > > another > > > story. > > > > > > Jan G. > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: "Edrie Broughton" <etfoam@inreach.com> > > > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:42:35 -0700 > > > > > > The rest of the Dorsey researchers and I have kicked that around. David > > > Dorsey we don't think was Indian or Melungeon but think that Mary Martin > > may > > > very well have been. Sarah must have had a dark complexion to have the > > > Black Dutch explanation used for her at least to her children or > > > grandchildren. The chart says that she was born of German parents and > > > brought as a very young child. Her husband having been German, probably > > > with the appropriate accent may have helped the fiction. When asked on > > > Census reports however she said she was born in SC and parents born in > NC. > > > David and Mary Martin Dorsey came south out of Macon County, NC to > > Pendleton > > > district SC, then on to Habersham (later White Co.), GA. They must have > > > maintained ties in both NC and SC because their children bounced back > and > > > forth. All these areas were strongly Cherokee. Since the removals > began > > > when Mary and David were doing all this moving, I suspect they were > > avoiding > > > the Army. > > > > > > EdrieAnne IBSSG > > > > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > > --- > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > by > > > each individual submitter. > > > > > > The Blacksheep Message boards are at: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac > > ksheep > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go > > > to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > > ~~~~ > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > by > > each individual submitter. > > > > > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > > > This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > > > A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > --- Shuler Michael > > --- grinch42@mindspring.com > > --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. 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