Ava - I agree. One cow standing in the pen is better than 100,000 of them slogging around waiting to be slaughtered in Colorado, to end-up our super markets. However, there are a lot of people living in the USA....takes a lot of cattle feed us. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: Ava Fischer <res0f1lp@verizon.net> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 11, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: Beef & chicken >Home grown better. Part of the time I lived on a ranch. My uncle's place. >Grew everything we could to survive. Dad was out of work at the time and my >uncle asked him to run the place while he dug wells. We had chickens (if >they didn't lay eggs then they were for the stew pot), pigs, cows (milk) >and beef, we also grew vegetables. The only thing we didn't have was >fruit. The trees just didn't survive. We also grew our own alfa. We had the >run of 1500 acres, most of it scrub brush and sage. But it was the best >time of my childhood. > >Whitewolf >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> >To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:08 PM >Subject: [BSChat] Re: Beef & chicken > > >> I just read an article in National Geographic (May issue 2002), about >> "FOOD - How Safe, How Altered." Chickens are dirty little things, and >> there's a pic. of cattle feedlot in Colorado, that pens 100,000 cattle for >> slaughter. It talks about the risk of fecal contamination, and disease >> among large-scale agriculture. >> >> So I have differ with you on the selection process of meat being raised >> commercially for us to eat. Those 100,000 cattle are covered in mud, >shit, >> etc. Then they haul them in for slaughter, and maybe they aren't very >> careful, and hair, microbes, bacteria, etc. cling to the final meat >product, >> e.g., hamburger. >> >> I'm not squeamish about eating meat...but I've never eaten any meat *rare* >> or even medium rare. The only time I eat chicken if it's almost burned to >a >> crisp, same with pork. I like some fish, but it has to be baked or >> deep-fried crispy. >> >> Jan C. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sue & Bobby Bates <bsbates@netease.net> >> To: jcurtis <jcurtis@redrock.net>; BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com >> <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:34 AM >> Subject: Re: Beef & chicken >> >> >> >"jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> wrote.... >> >> Why don't we say the same for beef & chickens, and hogs that are >> >killed, for our food? And then there's sea-food.< >> > As a matter of fact, I DO say the same thing for them but the >> >difference is that they have been raised for that express purpose and >> >not just slaughtered in their innocence and left laying there. >> > >> >> We humans have a basic need to eat cooked meat, fowl, fish. I think >> >it's inherited...back to cave ancestors.< >> > Our species are classified as Omnivores, which means that we eat >> >pretty much anything that we come across if we're so inclined. >> > Point of fact: Humans require 'X' percent (maybe 20-30%?) of their >> >diet to be comprised of protein. It is irrelevant whether that >> >protein source is derived from vegetables or meats. The problem is >> >that most vegetable sources are 'incomplete' protein. However, >> >incomplete proteins can be combined to make a complete protein which >> >will satisfy our nutritional requirements. >> > No, I'm not a vegetarian and enjoy a good roast as much as anyone. >> >Given a choice, I'll take seafood though. >> >Best, >> >SueB >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >> Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the >subject, CHANGE the subject. >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Unsubscribe from the list: >Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >