Then she would also have taught you that Native american Religion is very private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of your tribe. Rhonda IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of course, each nation > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, the words in English would > be as follows: > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great Spirit. You are called to > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth and time. To free your > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, leaving the bonds of this > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the life beyond. > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was Choctaw) > > Mike, IBSSG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that cannot find there way. A > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

That was the reason I paraphrased the English translation. Mike, IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hummingbird Sings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > Then she would also have taught you that Native american Religion is very > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of your tribe. > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of course, each nation > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, the words in English > would > > be as follows: > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great Spirit. You are called to > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth and time. To free your > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, leaving the bonds of this > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the life beyond. > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was Choctaw) > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that cannot find there way. > A > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

But this is not translated exactly and not in the native tongue. As you know some words do not translate into English very well. Many cultures have basically the same chant/prayer, with slight variations. Even Christianity has a chant/prayer for lost ones (lost souls). Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hummingbird Sings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > Then she would also have taught you that Native american Religion is very > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of your tribe. > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of course, each nation > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, the words in English > would > > be as follows: > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great Spirit. You are called to > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth and time. To free your > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, leaving the bonds of this > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the life beyond. > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was Choctaw) > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that cannot find there way. > A > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Whitewolf: Do you know Christianity's chant/prayer for lost souls? I am a Christian, and I know nothing about it. The only Christian answer I know of to lost souls is excorcism, which is hard ot have done and way inappropriate if the spirit you are dealing with is not evil, which is usually the case. The point of an excorcism is to send a demon back to hell. You wouldn't tell an honest ghost to go there, nor would you talk spitefully to it or call it Satan. Dora --- "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> wrote: > But this is not translated exactly and not in the > native tongue. As you > know some words do not translate into English very > well. Many cultures have > basically the same chant/prayer, with slight > variations. Even Christianity > has a chant/prayer for lost ones (lost souls). > > Whitewolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hummingbird Sings" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > Then she would also have taught you that Native > american Religion is very > > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of > your tribe. > > > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and > of course, each nation > > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, > the words in English > > would > > > be as follows: > > > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great > Spirit. You are called > to > > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond > earth and time. To free > your > > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, > leaving the bonds of > this > > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in > the life beyond. > > > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother > was Choctaw) > > > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones > that cannot find there way. > > A > > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > > scribe > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 > billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

I will be out of the net for about a week. Whitewolf

Oh give it a break! Dora --- Hummingbird Sings <[email protected]> wrote: > Then she would also have taught you that Native > american Religion is very > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of > your tribe. > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of > course, each nation > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, > the words in English > would > > be as follows: > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great > Spirit. You are called to > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth > and time. To free your > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, > leaving the bonds of this > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the > life beyond. > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was > Choctaw) > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that > cannot find there way. > A > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

I don't think so. there is no need for you to get ugly either. Rhonda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > Oh give it a break! > > Dora > > --- Hummingbird Sings <[email protected]> wrote: > > Then she would also have taught you that Native > > american Religion is very > > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of > > your tribe. > > > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of > > course, each nation > > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, > > the words in English > > would > > > be as follows: > > > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great > > Spirit. You are called to > > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth > > and time. To free your > > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, > > leaving the bonds of this > > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the > > life beyond. > > > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was > > Choctaw) > > > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that > > cannot find there way. > > A > > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is > > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > > scribe > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, > > go to: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thankyou very much for sharing your knowledge of how to send a ghost to the hereafter with us. I think a few ghosts will benefit from our knowledge. The next time I encounter one (I have met one or two), I will know what to do to help it. Ideas that knowledge is secret, someone owns it and it should not be shared have no place here or anywhere else. Dora --- Hummingbird Sings <[email protected]> wrote: > Then she would also have taught you that Native > american Religion is very > private and nottobe shared with anyone outside of > your tribe. > > Rhonda IBSSG > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > The dialogue varies from nation to nation, and of > course, each nation > > intones in their own unique tongue. In essence, > the words in English > would > > be as follows: > > > > Oh, beloved ones, hear the words from the Great > Spirit. You are called to > > be one with the spirits in the lands beyond earth > and time. To free your > > spirit you must now yield to me and go with me, > leaving the bonds of this > > earth. You shall have eternal good hunting in the > life beyond. > > > > (Suppose I should explain that my ggrandmother was > Choctaw) > > > > Mike, IBSSG > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:44 PM > > Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > > > > > > It is a chant for the lost ones. The ones that > cannot find there way. > A > > > Shaman or Medicine man would know of it. > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > > > > > What kind of chant Whitewolf? This is > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > > scribe > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Unsubscribe from the list: > > > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub > scribe > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com