Jack So, you were on the old original grapevine!! wow, That would have been a horrendous ride. You're lucky you made it! It probably helped that the truck driver was likely familiar with the road, knew where the turns were. But, that doesn't help you feel better when you're the passenger. Bet you white-knuckled the door and dashboard all the way down. lol Jan G. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com