Jeff, If I were Jack, the only thing I'd know for sure about that semi is how strong the hand grip on the door was! lol jan G. <<Jack, I would ask, was this a B model Mack? They were notorious for brake fading. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com)>> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.