Just feelin' a little chatty right now...decided to start researching my hubby's maternal line...My M.I.L. doesn't care if I find anything. (yep, that's what she said.) So I haven't been too motivated to work on them, but got bored with my own line, so off I went a few weeks ago. Have found her paternal grandfather's 1878 birth record in Lapeer County MI, can't WAIT to get it since I don't know his parents' names! Am hoping for more info than that, but not holding my breath....have also found his family (David & Etta Wilson) in Pontiac, MI for the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Censuses. Just started searching 1900, but no luck yet. They're not in the same township, if they were living in Pontiac. What a drag that the 1900 & 1910 Censuses aren't indexed yet! Does anyone know why that is? Have also found her maternal ggfather throughout Hancock, Allen & Putnam Counties in Ohio. David and Sarah Williams settled eventually on a farm in Putnam County (Palmer Township). Have 1880, 1900, 1920 & 1920 Censuses, no luck with 1930 yet. Also will probably have to pay someone to search Palmer Twp's land records...Will probably have to pay someone to search Grant Township/Clare Co., MI land records for her grandfather Augustus Williams' farm, too. At least I know it's in section 28! On the down side, I lost a cousin who'd been helpful in sorting out my black sheep, August Fuhrman(n), of Presque Isle County, MI. She died of a massive heart attack at age 51 last week. Will give a little time for things to settle down, and ask her sister to pass along anything and everything re: genealogy. These cousins grew up in the house our black sheep built.....my ggmother was one of August's daughters, their grandfather was one of his sons--so the farm went down the male line. The farm (with its homestead landmark status) is owned by another cousin, brother to the woman who died last week. Sadly, the loss of this cousin could be a big boon to my quest in sorting out my black sheep--Barbara, my cousin, had TONS of data (recollections of family as well as actual documents & photos) and had given me very little to work with when I started out 3 years ago... she just never had time. Lesson learned: SHARE, SHARE, SHARE! Sue G. IBSSG

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Sally was another nickname for Sarah. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgia Lane" <glane@grics.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Nickname website? > Unfortunately, I do not recall the email of the site where I saw nicknames. > But I know, for a fact, that my grandmother's next-door neighbor's name was > Sarah and everyone called her Sadie. She was born in the 1870s and Sadie > was common then. > > Georgia > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 8/4/03 1:49:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dave.tompsett@sympatico.ca writes: > back in the 1880's timekeeping wasn't nearly as significant a matter as > it was then. > a child born at 11:45 pm on Sunday could be two days earlier than a child > born 12:05 am on tuesday, despite being only 25 hours apart. > Add that to the fact that sloppy timekeeping could vary a few hours, > "sunup" ; "noon" ; and "sundown" were the important times to > an agricultural society. So my bet is - a sure possibility for those twins. > That is a possible theory. Also, when I had my twins one was ready to come out, the other was quite content right where she was. The doc had to "speeden her appearance" so maybe 100 hundred years ago they did not know they could or didnt know how to hurry the delivery up. Joan

back in the 1880's timekeeping wasn't nearly as significant a matter as it was then. a child born at 11:45 pm on Sunday could be two days earlier than a child born 12:05 am on tuesday, despite being only 25 hours apart. Add that to the fact that sloppy timekeeping could vary a few hours, "sunup" ; "noon" ; and "sundown" were the important times to an agricultural society. So my bet is - a sure possibility for those twins.

Unfortunately, I do not recall the email of the site where I saw nicknames. But I know, for a fact, that my grandmother's next-door neighbor's name was Sarah and everyone called her Sadie. She was born in the 1870s and Sadie was common then. Georgia

Does anyone know a good site to find nicknames? I am researching a branch of the family, mother is Sarah. Birth of some children list mother as Sadie. Make sense to anyone out there? Father's name is consistent, but those old records aren't detailed enough for me to be 100% CERTAIN. Also--does anyone know whether back in the 1880's it would've been possible for mom to deliver one fraternal twin days before the other? I'm looking for a true medical opinion on this one. I know it's possible NOW, but then? Thanks!! Sue G. IBSSG

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Brenda Faye Parker <fairplay51@yahoo.com> wrote:Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Brenda Faye Parker Subject: [BS-L] a must see site for black sheep To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com This all the unwritten/swept under carpet history. www.historyhouse.com/columns Am proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== List manager: blacksheep-admin@rootsweb.com Website: http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 Am proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Hi, all I was trying to read a 1920 census image at ancestry.com, and wouldn't you know, the one section I am interested in is virtually illegible. Anyone have any ideas, short of my requesting the fiche? Here's what I wanted to see: 1920 Ohio, Allen Co., Richland Twp. (Bluffton Village) census, sheet no. 16A (lines 23-25) At ancestry's site, it's image no. 31 of 39 in the Richland Twp. pages. Thanks for suggestions! Sue G. IBSSG

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Your welcome. Glad you enjoyed it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Calvin Littlefield" <freeholder679@yahoo.com> > Cute. I have saved it for my archive. Thanks for sharing. > > CBL, IBSSG > > "In a few words, yes." -- Doonesbury

Dave wrote.... >As punishment for getting my greek mythology metaphors mixed, it is raining heavily on my weed-infested lawn today.< ROFL!! Yep, that'll learn ya!!! Them Mythologicals don't take kindly to being mixed! ;-) Best, SueB http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore

> > As punishment for getting my greek mythology metaphors mixed, it is raining heavily on my weed-infested lawn today.

Calvin, that sounds like something they could have used in a "MASH" script. I am looking forward to the whole story. Barb Marsh IBSSG > "You're engaging in sophestry!" "Yes, but I'm stunning in tafeta." -- Lines from a story I haven't written yet. >

Calvin Littlefield wrote.... > I believe that was Sysiphus(sp?) who waa doomed to roll a rock uphill forever. Prometheus was chained to a maintainside as a giant bird came evryday to eat his liver, which, because he was a god, regenerated every day.< *slapping forehead* You're so right on that one, Calvin! I sorta remembered that Prometheus was associated with discovering/creating fire but guess I just figured that the 'rock & roll' (pardon the bad pun) was the result of another instance of displeasing the gods. Here's a site about Sisyphus and his 'crime' that resulted in his punishment: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~widmeyer/sisyphus.html Best, SueB http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore