They started out calling it 5.1 but later upgraded it to 5.5. Even where I live, it didn't get much coverage. Too much other misery in the world. Sharon Lee IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJSTON@aol.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Earthquakes for those in the Central US > > In a message dated 4/23/02 8:16:13 PM, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > > << Found this while I was trying to find more on the NY quake of a few days > ago. Looks like it was near NY City?? That was the only one I could find. > >> > > JanG > > I think they said something like 5.2....but I could be remembering it wrong. > Lee would probably be able to say for sure, since she's in NY. Is that what > it was, Lee? > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 4/23/02 3:34:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > My grandmother was left handed, the only one in her family. And she was a > first generation American, German parents. And in their culture, > left-handedness was considered to an evil thing. So, they would stand > behind > her and force her to use her left hand. She cried and cried, she said, but > for the rest of her life, until she was in her 70's she wrote with her > right > hand. Then, she became a bit palsied and went back to her left hand, > because > it was less shakey. (In Grandma's family of 10 kids, there was only one > with brown eyes, and they told her she was adopted. lol It didn't pay to be > > different in that family!) > Jan G., I'm the same. I'm the third of nine. Only lefty, only redhead. Six of us have brown eyes, eight if you include my parents. Of the nine, as children, we were 4 brownettes, 4 blondes and 1 redhead. Dad and Mom are brownette. Only one of the blonde's has brown eyes. The rest are blue or hazel. You really never know what will surface in physical characteristics in a child. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

In a message dated 4/23/02 8:16:13 PM, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: << Found this while I was trying to find more on the NY quake of a few days ago. Looks like it was near NY City?? That was the only one I could find. >> JanG I think they said something like 5.2....but I could be remembering it wrong. Lee would probably be able to say for sure, since she's in NY. Is that what it was, Lee?

In a message dated 4/23/02 12:10:15 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ScismGenie@aol.com writes: > I had to stop in Jan's home town for repairs. The dealer freaked too. It > looks just like an 1980, but NOTHING is standard under the hood. > Jeff, LOL, shades of a car I learned to drive a standard tranny in. It's description: Plymouth 2 door, three seat, Station wagon I don't recall the engine block size, but it was BIG gas hog. My brother blew the fuel pump and the tranny, would you believe 80 mph in second gear? It cut out, I wonder why. When Dad called the parts store to see if they had the fuel pump, he said, sure, but I need the exchange, normal. Dad took the fuel pump in, placed it on the counter, beside the new one. The old one was three times bigger. Parts guy looked up the number. The only vehicles that had that fuel pump in were -- Taxis and Federal Cars. Care to guess which it was? LOL Car also had 1,000 lbs of weights around the rear end, probably to hold it on the road at high speeds. I came close to taking out the back door of the Davis County Courthouse, just backing up. <groan > My first time behind the wheel of a standard. BTW, the courthouse is constructed of granite blocks. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

In a message dated 4/23/02 7:59:42 PM, firebyrd@eatel.net writes: << I told ya'll he was religious you should hear his gospel CD >> His Ave Maria and his How Great Thou Art isn't too shabby, either. <g>

No...Stella likes to pay for things. I've been with them & she'll say: "Here Mom, let me pay for it!" And Becki hands her the money. I'll be interested to know what she spends her $1.00 on...can't buy much with a buck. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: ScismGenie@aol.com <ScismGenie@aol.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:11 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: Stella's Birthday >In a message dated 4/22/2002 7:20:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >jcurtis@redrock.net writes: > > >> Can't figure out why tho? My daughter makes a lot of money (so does dad >> Jack), and she has everything parents can buy for a little girl....my >> daughter is 42 & Stella's her only child...and Jack's only daughter! We >> aren't talking about a needy family here. >> >> The only thing I can think of is that Stella watches her Mom spend money, >> and she ends-up with goodies. >> >> Jan C > >Perhaps she isn't allowed to handle money? > > >Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) >~~ >Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site >Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site >manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: >B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n >d i c o t t, > S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. >Nv.) > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jan, The recent New York quake occurred in the northernmost part of the state. It was felt all over the state, except by me, who slept through it. Just across town from my house, a friend was jolted awake with the house shaking and rattling for 20 seconds. If I noticed anything, I probably thought it was a cat jumping on the bed. Sharon IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: [BSChat] Earthquakes for those in the Central US > > For those who think we in CA are living on the edge of geologic disaster: > > http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/ > > Found this while I was trying to find more on the NY quake of a few days > ago. Looks like it was near NY City?? That was the only one I could find. > > Jan g. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

a long time ago he wentto jail don't remeber why not long though and the arms He was a Stevadore on the warfs in New Orleans ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > Karen, I don't doubt that he's religious. I'm just noticing that Neville has > created his own niche, crosses a lot of music lines. And is difficult to put > a label on, even when it comes to his style of singing. > > Didn't he go to jail a couple times on drug charges, heroin or something? > Years ago, not at all recent, I think. Or maybe that's what he looked like, > with those vests and big arms, like a weight lifter. > > Jan G. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "K ORTOLANO" <firebyrd@eatel.net> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:06:45 -0500 > > I told ya'll he was religious you should hear his gospel CD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > > > > > > > lol, how bout that! Neville does country and religious music! lol Pretty > > good for a guy who sings falsetto! > > > > Jan g. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> > > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BSChat] British TV? > > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:47:41 +0100 > > > > I knows y'all love some of our Brit Comedies, if "BARBARA" ever makes it > > across the pond, give it some serious viewing, its a married couple in > their > > early 50's, and "Barb" has a barbed wire mouth LOL she is really funny, > real > > cutting humour! > > > > On Sunday evening we got APOLLO 13 agian, but I do love that film, so > > watched it again! and tomorrow night we have GOODFELLOWS with Ray Liotta, > > again, but a good enough reason to watch it LOL, would you believe as > tehy > > were showing trailers of GF tonight, the music accompanying was Ave > Maria, > > sung by some geezer named Aaron Neville, how about that for a > coincidence! > > Mellie > > IBSSG > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the > subject, CHANGE the subject. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the > subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

wow, Karen, singing like he does an the wharves--that could get a guy killed couldn't it? lol No wonder he dressed 'tough'. lol Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "K ORTOLANO" <firebyrd@eatel.net> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 20:07:58 -0500 a long time ago he wentto jail don't remeber why not long though and the arms He was a Stevadore on the warfs in New Orleans ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > Karen, I don't doubt that he's religious. I'm just noticing that Neville has > created his own niche, crosses a lot of music lines. And is difficult to put > a label on, even when it comes to his style of singing. > > Didn't he go to jail a couple times on drug charges, heroin or something? > Years ago, not at all recent, I think. Or maybe that's what he looked like, > with those vests and big arms, like a weight lifter. > > Jan G. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "K ORTOLANO" <firebyrd@eatel.net> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:06:45 -0500 > > I told ya'll he was religious you should hear his gospel CD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > > > > > > > lol, how bout that! Neville does country and religious music! lol Pretty > > good for a guy who sings falsetto! > > > > Jan g. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> > > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BSChat] British TV? > > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:47:41 +0100 > > > > I knows y'all love some of our Brit Comedies, if "BARBARA" ever makes it > > across the pond, give it some serious viewing, its a married couple in > their > > early 50's, and "Barb" has a barbed wire mouth LOL she is really funny, > real > > cutting humour! > > > > On Sunday evening we got APOLLO 13 agian, but I do love that film, so > > watched it again! and tomorrow night we have GOODFELLOWS with Ray Liotta, > > again, but a good enough reason to watch it LOL, would you believe as > tehy > > were showing trailers of GF tonight, the music accompanying was Ave > Maria, > > sung by some geezer named Aaron Neville, how about that for a > coincidence! > > Mellie > > IBSSG > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the > subject, CHANGE the subject. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the > subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Wow, that was a pretty big one, for back there! It should have been a good little jiggle, if you were within 50 miles, enough to make the power lines sway, make the windows rattle. I haven't felt one that strong since 1994. <g> Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> Reply-To: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Earthquakes for those in the Central US Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:20:19 -0400 They started out calling it 5.1 but later upgraded it to 5.5. Even where I live, it didn't get much coverage. Too much other misery in the world. Sharon Lee IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJSTON@aol.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Earthquakes for those in the Central US > > In a message dated 4/23/02 8:16:13 PM, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > > << Found this while I was trying to find more on the NY quake of a few days > ago. Looks like it was near NY City?? That was the only one I could find. > >> > > JanG > > I think they said something like 5.2....but I could be remembering it wrong. > Lee would probably be able to say for sure, since she's in NY. Is that what > it was, Lee? > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

I told ya'll he was religious you should hear his gospel CD ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > > lol, how bout that! Neville does country and religious music! lol Pretty > good for a guy who sings falsetto! > > Jan g. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BSChat] British TV? > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:47:41 +0100 > > I knows y'all love some of our Brit Comedies, if "BARBARA" ever makes it > across the pond, give it some serious viewing, its a married couple in their > early 50's, and "Barb" has a barbed wire mouth LOL she is really funny, real > cutting humour! > > On Sunday evening we got APOLLO 13 agian, but I do love that film, so > watched it again! and tomorrow night we have GOODFELLOWS with Ray Liotta, > again, but a good enough reason to watch it LOL, would you believe as tehy > were showing trailers of GF tonight, the music accompanying was Ave Maria, > sung by some geezer named Aaron Neville, how about that for a coincidence! > Mellie > IBSSG > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

THE "G" Word - GIBBETTED - means hung I am horrified at the thought of execution, even if some crimes do merit it, and the types of executions carried out on this list - shudder. Some others: burned - can there be a worse way to die? pressed - not even on the list but should be - that was the way they killed 'witches' bludgeon - ugh - it would take a murderous mind to come up with this one break on wheel hang in chains _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

In a message dated 4/23/2002 12:00:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dorisbarnett@hotmail.com writes: > pressed - not even on the list but should be - that was the way they killed > 'witches' > Only one- Giles Corey, was PRESSED, after the Salem trials. I am unsure if the method was used elsewhere, he was an octogenarian, and withstood it for three days before dying. He reportedly challenged them to keepadding stones, professing innocence, and defied them right to near the end. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

For those who think we in CA are living on the edge of geologic disaster: http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/ Found this while I was trying to find more on the NY quake of a few days ago. Looks like it was near NY City?? That was the only one I could find. Jan g. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Karen, I don't doubt that he's religious. I'm just noticing that Neville has created his own niche, crosses a lot of music lines. And is difficult to put a label on, even when it comes to his style of singing. Didn't he go to jail a couple times on drug charges, heroin or something? Years ago, not at all recent, I think. Or maybe that's what he looked like, with those vests and big arms, like a weight lifter. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "K ORTOLANO" <firebyrd@eatel.net> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 19:06:45 -0500 I told ya'll he was religious you should hear his gospel CD ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] British TV? > > > lol, how bout that! Neville does country and religious music! lol Pretty > good for a guy who sings falsetto! > > Jan g. > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BSChat] British TV? > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:47:41 +0100 > > I knows y'all love some of our Brit Comedies, if "BARBARA" ever makes it > across the pond, give it some serious viewing, its a married couple in their > early 50's, and "Barb" has a barbed wire mouth LOL she is really funny, real > cutting humour! > > On Sunday evening we got APOLLO 13 agian, but I do love that film, so > watched it again! and tomorrow night we have GOODFELLOWS with Ray Liotta, > again, but a good enough reason to watch it LOL, would you believe as tehy > were showing trailers of GF tonight, the music accompanying was Ave Maria, > sung by some geezer named Aaron Neville, how about that for a coincidence! > Mellie > IBSSG > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

lol, how bout that! Neville does country and religious music! lol Pretty good for a guy who sings falsetto! Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] British TV? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:47:41 +0100 I knows y'all love some of our Brit Comedies, if "BARBARA" ever makes it across the pond, give it some serious viewing, its a married couple in their early 50's, and "Barb" has a barbed wire mouth LOL she is really funny, real cutting humour! On Sunday evening we got APOLLO 13 agian, but I do love that film, so watched it again! and tomorrow night we have GOODFELLOWS with Ray Liotta, again, but a good enough reason to watch it LOL, would you believe as tehy were showing trailers of GF tonight, the music accompanying was Ave Maria, sung by some geezer named Aaron Neville, how about that for a coincidence! Mellie IBSSG _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

I agree with Joyce on this. Jack, we need your help on this. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Dever" <skipdever@earthlink.net> To: <Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: [Melungeon] FW: [MONCRIEF-L] Cemetery Destruction > Hi all, I rec'd this today, I find this horrible. Joyce > > > > > > Hello Dennis, > > > > I read your account of the cemetery destruction. It is appalling to me > that > > this could happen. Would you mind if I "shared" your email with some of > the > > other lists I belong to? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joyce Lucas Dever > > > Not at all Joyce, go ahead. - Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Muncrief [mailto:mudman@cableone.net] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:28 PM > To: MONCRIEF-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MONCRIEF-L] Cemetery Destruction > > Hello All, > Received an email from a retired Marine Corps fighter pilot from this area > of Okla. It's so incredible that someone would do this to a cemetery. > > Last year this retired Major drove from Florida to Wapanucka, OK to take > pictures of the grandparents and great-great grandparents graves in a rural > cemetery. The directions were confusing to him so he stopped at a grocery > store and asked directions. The owner of the store told him it would do no > good to go there. When he asked why, the store owner told him the owner of > the land had removed all the tombstones and put them in a boggy creek bottom > on his farm so it would be easier to drive across the creek in wet weather. > > In 2000, a farmer in western Murray county, OK, near Ft. Arbuckle, bulldozed > all the tombstones in an old Negro freedmen cemetery into a ditch. Many of > these interred there were listed on the 1860 Slave Census of the Chickasaw > Nation. When asked why he did this he said he thought nobody cared about > the old cemetery anymore. > > I have asked my State Representative, who is the House Majority Leader, to > look into creating new laws to protect these old Pioneer, Historic and > Abandoned cemeteries in Oklahoma. Since many of you have relatives buried > in this state, I hope you will join the effort to create new laws to protect > these cemeteries. > > If you choose to be a part of this effort, contact: > > Rep. Danny Hilliard > State Capitol Bldg, Room 442 > 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd. > OKC, OK 73105-4885 > > email: hilliardda@lsb.state.ok.us > > Here is the link to the letter I sent to him as well as the proposed laws to > be created. Please take a look at them and join the effort if you feel as > upset about these occurrences as I do. You CAN make a difference. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmurray/pioneer_cemeteries.htm > > > Thank You, > Dennis > > > > > > > > ==== Melungeon Mailing List ==== > Helen Campbell's Melungeon Homepage: > http://www.melungeons.com > Contains an abundance of Melungeon related articles and links. > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Dever" <skipdever@earthlink.net> To: <Melungeon-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: [Melungeon] FW: [MONCRIEF-L] Cemetery Destruction > Hi all, I rec'd this today, I find this horrible. Joyce > > > > > > Hello Dennis, > > > > I read your account of the cemetery destruction. It is appalling to me > that > > this could happen. Would you mind if I "shared" your email with some of > the > > other lists I belong to? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joyce Lucas Dever > > > Not at all Joyce, go ahead. - Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Muncrief [mailto:mudman@cableone.net] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:28 PM > To: MONCRIEF-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MONCRIEF-L] Cemetery Destruction > > Hello All, > Received an email from a retired Marine Corps fighter pilot from this area > of Okla. It's so incredible that someone would do this to a cemetery. > > Last year this retired Major drove from Florida to Wapanucka, OK to take > pictures of the grandparents and great-great grandparents graves in a rural > cemetery. The directions were confusing to him so he stopped at a grocery > store and asked directions. The owner of the store told him it would do no > good to go there. When he asked why, the store owner told him the owner of > the land had removed all the tombstones and put them in a boggy creek bottom > on his farm so it would be easier to drive across the creek in wet weather. > > In 2000, a farmer in western Murray county, OK, near Ft. Arbuckle, bulldozed > all the tombstones in an old Negro freedmen cemetery into a ditch. Many of > these interred there were listed on the 1860 Slave Census of the Chickasaw > Nation. When asked why he did this he said he thought nobody cared about > the old cemetery anymore. > > I have asked my State Representative, who is the House Majority Leader, to > look into creating new laws to protect these old Pioneer, Historic and > Abandoned cemeteries in Oklahoma. Since many of you have relatives buried > in this state, I hope you will join the effort to create new laws to protect > these cemeteries. > > If you choose to be a part of this effort, contact: > > Rep. Danny Hilliard > State Capitol Bldg, Room 442 > 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd. > OKC, OK 73105-4885 > > email: hilliardda@lsb.state.ok.us > > Here is the link to the letter I sent to him as well as the proposed laws to > be created. Please take a look at them and join the effort if you feel as > upset about these occurrences as I do. You CAN make a difference. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmurray/pioneer_cemeteries.htm > > > Thank You, > Dennis > > > > > > > > ==== Melungeon Mailing List ==== > Helen Campbell's Melungeon Homepage: > http://www.melungeons.com > Contains an abundance of Melungeon related articles and links. > >

Now, just don't get me started ! I have seen people killed up close, as in standing right next to them when it happened and having blood spurted all over me and running to hide in the latrine so the guards wouldn't think it was me who had did it. I have started a book about all the killings I witnessed in prison, called "My Brother's Keeper ?". Actually, it was all the senseless killings I saw while there that changed a lot of my thinking about how I viewed mankind. Indeed, it addled my senses so much I started being crazy and goofy and went around my prison trying to keep people alive, even the ones I didn't like personally, got nosey, stuck my nose in other people's business, would snatch some young stupid kid by the hand and drag him to safety, got the hell beat out of me several times, had contracts put on my life, the whole nine yards. And then some group in Oklahoma City heard of my actions and gave me an award for them. While I was in prison. And speaking of awards, David, the young boy I took under my wing and tried to salvage after his parents abandoned him, well, this Friday he receives an award from the National Association of Volunteers, live TV coverage on their surprise presentation which will take place at his high school, limousines, plaque, baloon boquet, and a $1000 gift to the charity he is volunteering at. The presentation will be shown on channel 9 here in Oklahoma City at 5:00 PM Friday the 26th. They are making a big deal about it because most volunteers are older folks who are retired, and they seldom have an opportunity to give one of their awards to a teenager still in high school. Coincidentally, one of the women who sits on the Volunteer award committee also sat on the committee that gave me the award 25 years ago. Small world. Jack Childers in OKC International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" Jaxone1234@msn.com

Starts with the same letter, Don, but the name for that is garroted. Mike IBSSG > [Original Message] > From: Don Kelly <donkelly@grovenet.net> > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/23/2002 3:41:14 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Unusual methods of execution > > We live and learn. I grew up thinking that being gibbeted was being > choked to death with a rope around the neck being twisted tighter and > tighter by turning a handle made of wood, not unlike a tourniquet. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doris Barnett" <dorisbarnett@hotmail.com> > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:00 PM > Subject: [BS-L] Unusual methods of execution > > > > THE "G" Word - GIBBETTED - means hung > > > > I am horrified at the thought of execution, even if some crimes do > merit it, > > and the types of executions carried out on this list - shudder. > > > > Some others: > > burned - can there be a worse way to die? > > pressed - not even on the list but should be - that was the way they > killed > > 'witches' > > bludgeon - ugh - it would take a murderous mind to come up with this > one > > break on wheel > > hang in chains > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > --- > > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > by each individual submitter. > > The BlackSheep Rootsweb Links page has many Rootsweb based search > engines,as well as links to the BlackSheep Message Boards. > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html > > --- > > The Blacksheep Message boards are at: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations. > blacksheep > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~~ > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Hall of Shame portion of our website. > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Shuler Michael --- grinch42@mindspring.com --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.