In a message dated 4/25/2002 11:00:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dlnews_sender@dtic.mil writes: > IMMEDIATE RELEASE > April 25, 2002 > (703)697-5737(public/industry) > > DOD RELEASES TWO REPORTS ON KHAMISIYAH DEMOLITION OPERATIONS > > The Department of Defense released today two reports > relating to the events at Khamisiyah during the Gulf War. The > first report is a final version of its case narrative "U.S. > Demolition Operations at Khamisiyah." The second, "Modeling and > Risk Characterization of U.S. Demolition Operations at the > Khamisiyah Pit," is a technical report detailing the modeling > and risk characterization of possible chemical warfare agent > exposure in the Gulf War. > > After publishing the first interim report in 1997, > investigators working for DoD's special assistant for Gulf War > Illnesses, Medical Readiness And Military Deployments > intensified their efforts to address unanswered questions and to > fully understand the effect of demolition operations on U.S. > servicemembers. In addition, investigators began detailed > computer modeling of events in the spring and summer of 1997 to > determine the size and path of the potential hazard area created > by demolition activities. The modeling resulted in the Defense > Department sending notification letters to approximately 99,000 > veterans in 1997. > > Further refinement of computer modeling of the > Khamisiyah Pit demolition was completed in January 2000. This > information combined with an updated CIA estimate of how much > chemical warfare agent was released, addition of deposition and > decay to the models and consideration of toxicity of both sarin > and cyclosarin in the models resulted in a second interim report > published in December 2000. The improved modeling allowed > investigators to redefine the potential hazard area, resulting > in slight changes to the estimated numbers - 101,000 vs. 99,000 > - of U.S. servicemembers possibly exposed to low-levels of nerve > agent by the Khamisiyah demolitions. More than 66,000 soldiers > were shown to be in the potential hazard area by both the 1997 > and 2000 modeling. In December 2000, the Defense Department > notified more than 140,000 servicemembers of their status based > on their unit location inside or outside of the 2000 potential > hazard area. Now what was that aboput "Gulf War Syndrome?" Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

Jack, I would ask, was this a B model Mack? They were notorious for brake fading. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

They're sensitive to the UV light from the sun. Or from a "black light" or other UV source. I don't doubt you had one the size of a thumb nail, but chances are it was a man-made model, and there's nothing wrong with that either. It's the same identical chemicals/structure, and far more perfect. It's unusual to get one that big, natural that is. And they're known for having a lot of 'inclusions', stuff cluttering them up, not usually a "clean" stone. But, that's what sets the natural ones apart, all those inclusions. Yes, they're still expensive, the natural ones at least, retail is often $6,000/carat, but the man-made ones are pretty affordable, perhaps $40/carat where I buy them. They're really pretty and that's all that matters--that you like the way it looks. (The natural ones are a whole lot less if you know the Russian importer and buy from him/her at less than book wholesale. wink wink) Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Jewelry Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:22:59 -0500 Jan G, Alexandrite is my birthstone also. Aren't they beautiful ? But expensive for the real thing. I had one that I got when I was a teenager, a beautiful square cut, stone as big as your thumb nail. Someone stole it and I haven't had the money to replace it since then. It always fascinated me how they changed from green to red. Jack Childers in OKC ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Jack, I thought you were lucky. You made it through just fine and you've got a story to tell. Jan G. << See, my luck was bad even back then, got a ride from the truck driver from hell ! Jack Childers in OKC>> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

If you can turn them over once, you can do it twice. <G> Keeps them evenly tanned. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] JanG's Upside Down Car Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:10:40 +0100 > but we turn them over every few years, before the sun damage shows up. this was JanG's comment about her car, now my question is, exactly how do you drive them upside down? Mellie IBSSG How Come My Coat Of Arms has Ties At The Back? List Admin: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com BAGNALL-L@rootsweb.com BATE-L@rootsweb.com BENTON-ENG-L@rootsweb.com BLACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com FEREDAY-L@rootsweb.com HOLLOWOOD-L@rootsweb.com HOWDLE-L@rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Attachments are not enclosed unless previously notified My AVG is updated every 24 hours Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02 ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Jeff, If I were Jack, the only thing I'd know for sure about that semi is how strong the hand grip on the door was! lol jan G. <<Jack, I would ask, was this a B model Mack? They were notorious for brake fading. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com)>> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Jeff, I agree that there's a real problem and by far most of the symptoms and complaints are a direct result of service in the Gulf War. I still think that a lot of the problems started with the experimental shots they were given. Please tell me if I'm wrong about this--Did the shots have something included in them that was intended to protect them from sarin attacks? Wondering if perhaps it didn't work to protect them, but combined with the anthrax and other stuff in the shots, it just made things worse when they were exposed to the real thing. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: ScismGenie@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] Re: DoD Releases Two Reports on Khamisiyah Demolition Operations Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:11:05 EDT In a message dated 4/25/2002 11:00:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dlnews_sender@dtic.mil writes: > IMMEDIATE RELEASE > April 25, 2002 > (703)697-5737(public/industry) > > DOD RELEASES TWO REPORTS ON KHAMISIYAH DEMOLITION OPERATIONS > > The Department of Defense released today two reports > relating to the events at Khamisiyah during the Gulf War. The > first report is a final version of its case narrative "U.S. > Demolition Operations at Khamisiyah." The second, "Modeling and > Risk Characterization of U.S. Demolition Operations at the > Khamisiyah Pit," is a technical report detailing the modeling > and risk characterization of possible chemical warfare agent > exposure in the Gulf War. > > After publishing the first interim report in 1997, > investigators working for DoD's special assistant for Gulf War > Illnesses, Medical Readiness And Military Deployments > intensified their efforts to address unanswered questions and to > fully understand the effect of demolition operations on U.S. > servicemembers. In addition, investigators began detailed > computer modeling of events in the spring and summer of 1997 to > determine the size and path of the potential hazard area created > by demolition activities. The modeling resulted in the Defense > Department sending notification letters to approximately 99,000 > veterans in 1997. > > Further refinement of computer modeling of the > Khamisiyah Pit demolition was completed in January 2000. This > information combined with an updated CIA estimate of how much > chemical warfare agent was released, addition of deposition and > decay to the models and consideration of toxicity of both sarin > and cyclosarin in the models resulted in a second interim report > published in December 2000. The improved modeling allowed > investigators to redefine the potential hazard area, resulting > in slight changes to the estimated numbers - 101,000 vs. 99,000 > - of U.S. servicemembers possibly exposed to low-levels of nerve > agent by the Khamisiyah demolitions. More than 66,000 soldiers > were shown to be in the potential hazard area by both the 1997 > and 2000 modeling. In December 2000, the Defense Department > notified more than 140,000 servicemembers of their status based > on their unit location inside or outside of the 2000 potential > hazard area. Now what was that aboput "Gulf War Syndrome?" Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.) ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Yes, Whitewolf, my sister says both she and I should either be dead or insane by now !Good thing we're not !! Jack Childers in OKC

Jack So, you were on the old original grapevine!! wow, That would have been a horrendous ride. You're lucky you made it! It probably helped that the truck driver was likely familiar with the road, knew where the turns were. But, that doesn't help you feel better when you're the passenger. Bet you white-knuckled the door and dashboard all the way down. lol Jan G. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Jewelry is like a lot of other possessions that eventually becomes just burdensome. My brother is in the jewelry business, so decades worth of gifts of jewels to my mother and to me have become a real problem. What in the world should I do with that stuff? I quit wearing all those rings when my hands stopped looking like a young person's. Broken fingernails and callouses from gardening, scratches and small scars....adorn those hands with emeralds? I don't think so! Sharon IBSSG

Sharon, I think you should wear those rings, at least the ones you like the best. It doesn't matter about how much character <> your hands have. As for the number of rings, I know what you mean. I've got a bunch of jewelry I never wear and I've told my husband not to bother buying me more. How many rings can a person wear?? I have two rings I wear every day, my diamond wedding ring and my birthstone (alexandrite) ring. I like the way they look and they're both special to me because I got them from my husband. So, the rest of the jewelry is just sitting there, never worn. I guess I should give them to my daughters. I have enough stuff keeping me busy that I don't take the time to think, 'now what ring do I want to wear today?' lol I do hav ea friend who keeps a bunch of rings in her purse and she changes which ones she's wearing pretty often, and it easy because they're with her. But, keeping them in her purse seems a bit foolish, safety-wise. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> Reply-To: "Sharon Workman" <workman@dreamscape.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Jewelry Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:14:35 -0400 Jewelry is like a lot of other possessions that eventually becomes just burdensome. My brother is in the jewelry business, so decades worth of gifts of jewels to my mother and to me have become a real problem. What in the world should I do with that stuff? I quit wearing all those rings when my hands stopped looking like a young person's. Broken fingernails and callouses from gardening, scratches and small scars....adorn those hands with emeralds? I don't think so! Sharon IBSSG ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Jack, I know what you mean. When I lived in Bakersfield I was dating a guy who rode a nice Harley. Now I have no problem with motorcycles my Dad & Mom always rode them and I like to ride even today at my age. But when the guy driving the bike down the grapevine is 3 sheets in the wind and you are on the back praying just let me live through this, that isn't a thrill that is being scared to death. When I finally got home safely I never dated that guy again. A few months later my grandfather became very ill and I moved back home to Ohio. Been there, done that. Gail in La.

Jack it seems like you have had a angel with you for a lot of years, by all rights you should have been dead several times. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] S-10 pick-ups > Yeah, it sure does scare the hair off of you to drive dangerously down the grapevine. What made it so bad was that the driver would not stop ! He could have, but was trying to make it. His brakes were not totally out, but were cutting in and out....brakes one second, no brakes the next. This was in the late 50's. His headlights were not the big bright ones they have today, it was raining, pitch dark, and I kept trying to get him to stop and at least let me out, but he wanted to get to the bottom and said he could make it. And wouldn't you know it, the only times his brakes gave out were when another vehicle was coming toward us or when we were at a sharp curve with a steep drop off the side of the road. Nothing like looking down 19 million miles of sheer cliff side in a truck with faulty brakes ! I didn't cuss at the time but I did I sure would have filled his ears full over that. When I finally got on solid ground I was so thankful ! Looking back on it it was kind! > of funny when we stopped. As I said, I didn't cuss, but I sure gave him a piece of my mind, useless probably, because I was telling him how awful he was, that I would never ride in his truck again, how could he put my life in such danger, just throwing a regular fit ! He probably thought he had given a ride to a choir boy !!! > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yeah, it sure does scare the hair off of you to drive dangerously down the grapevine. What made it so bad was that the driver would not stop ! He could have, but was trying to make it. His brakes were not totally out, but were cutting in and out....brakes one second, no brakes the next. This was in the late 50's. His headlights were not the big bright ones they have today, it was raining, pitch dark, and I kept trying to get him to stop and at least let me out, but he wanted to get to the bottom and said he could make it. And wouldn't you know it, the only times his brakes gave out were when another vehicle was coming toward us or when we were at a sharp curve with a steep drop off the side of the road. Nothing like looking down 19 million miles of sheer cliff side in a truck with faulty brakes ! I didn't cuss at the time but I did I sure would have filled his ears full over that. When I finally got on solid ground I was so thankful ! Looking back on it it was kind! of funny when we stopped. As I said, I didn't cuss, but I sure gave him a piece of my mind, useless probably, because I was telling him how awful he was, that I would never ride in his truck again, how could he put my life in such danger, just throwing a regular fit ! He probably thought he had given a ride to a choir boy !!! Jack Childers in OKC

In a message dated 4/24/2002 7:14:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stickneys@alltel.net writes: > EUGENE MATUSEK 15 Feb 1927 Nov 1963 > Perhaps there is a second personality? How close to where your dad was? Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

In a message dated 4/24/02 6:19:56 PM Mountain Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > Asking about income from such a mortgage is one of the questions that a > tax preparer asks to make sure that all income is listed. Since the reverse > > mortgage is more beneficial, profit-wise, for a bank, and that's their only > > reason for making such an instrument available, and since the bank is the > one who creates the documents, I wouldn't trust any questions about my tax > situation to be answered by them, not even about this one thing. Usually the ramifications of the responsibilities of the parties involved are explained in detail, same as when you sign papers on a home mortgage. This is when it is discussed, never in place of a Tax professional, even though I have had some very wrong answers from them as well. If I want Tax info, at the time I'm filing, I go to whom ever I'm to pay the taxes to, I also get their name and position. I use these as a reference point in case of a problem. So far I have never had a problem to use this on, so after a time it becomes excess info and I discard it. While meaning several years. Until then it is kept with Tax info. I have been doing taxes for hubby and myself for nearly 30 years. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

JanG, Falsetto, is just right for "Ave maria" sounds great! Karen, can't agree more! >His Ave Maria and his How Great Thou Art isn't too shabby, either. <g>< Ave I have heard, but not how great thou art, would imagine its pretty good, me thinks its a trip to the CD shop this weekend LOL the size of his arms you gotta be pretty mean or pretty stupid to wanna pick a fight with him LOL JanG, i auto refuse attachments, I haven't had any, as you know I advise before sending. Mellie IBSSG How Come My Coat Of Arms has Ties At The Back? List Admin: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com BAGNALL-L@rootsweb.com BATE-L@rootsweb.com BENTON-ENG-L@rootsweb.com BLACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com FEREDAY-L@rootsweb.com HOLLOWOOD-L@rootsweb.com HOWDLE-L@rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Attachments are not enclosed unless previously notified My AVG is updated every 24 hours Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02

I hope my emails are not being sent twice. I have been getting duplicates of everything today, and my server is very slow. So I think I will sign off and try another time. So good-night and God bless and keep you safe. Whitewolf aka Ava, IBSSG

The family jewerly has been handed down to the oldest daughter. My mom got her mother's (of course she gave her sister whatever she wanted) and it will come to me along with her jewerly. My jewerly along with whatever is left to me will go to my daughter. Mom only had one daughter, I have one daughter and my daughter has only one daughter. The rest are sons and they don't want it, whatever their wives want we will share. But it is to stay in the family. There are some very nice pieces and some junk, but we love it all. When the grand-chnildren visit the grand-daughters take out the big jewerly box and take out the pieces and look at it all. The grand-sons listen and look, but try to act like they are not paying any attention. Then my daughter or son will tell them what belonged to who, how they got the piece, (most of the time it is funny) and show a picture of the person wearing the jewerly. That way the family history is preserved, not by the jewerly but by the telling of it. Even if all the jewerly disappeared the telling would still be there, it would just be with pictures. Whitewolf > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:26 PM > Subject: [BS-L] Re: Jewelry > > > > Doris - I have a lot of fine jewelry. When I lived in Thailand I took > > advantage of the low cost of gems...rubies, diamonds, saphires, jade, > opals, > > pearls, topaz, and gold items, etc. I also have a lot of Turquoise from > the > > Southwest. > > > > I don't wear many of them, every day. But when I do wear something, > people > > notice. I've already given my daughter a ruby & diamond ring (perfect > > stones). Son Steve wants my huge Aquamarine ring someday. > > > > Other than that....I don't know where my jewelry is going. Maybe I'll > just > > take it all with me when I leave Mother Earth. > > > > Jan C. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Doris <ginlu@charter.net> > > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Administration of wills > > > > > > >My aunt, who was my godmother, had promised two of her diamond rings to > my > > >two oldest daughters, and her coin collection and other jewelry to be > > >divided among my other three children......but when she had the fatal > heart > > >attack and was being taken to the hospital (arrived d.o.a.), somebody > went > > >in and "gathered up" her valuables to bring for "safe-keeping" along with > > >her purse (she carried oodles of cash and things of value in her big > > >purse).... > > > > > >Of course the joint property went to her husband, but since they had no > > >children and had been like parents to me and close to my children all my > > >life --- lived in the same house until well after I married ----- and it > > was > > >a well-publicized fact that all her personal items were to go to me and > my > > >family.... > > > > > >Somewhere between the house and the hospital the jewelry and other items > > >that were placed in the purse just disappeared.....her sister (my other > > >aunt) took the purse with her and later gave it to the husband, but when > he > > >got it there was no sign of any of the items.....?? When my mother asked > > >after her purse, she was told it was at [my aunt's] house.... > > > > > >Well, I'm sure I know where it all went....since the same aunt took my > > >grandma's yellow diamond ring that was given to me....she got that before > > >grandma even died---just told grandma she'd keep her valuables until > > grandma > > >got out of the hosp.....and later showed us how she'd had it reset into > > >another mounting and how great it looked on her!!! > > > > > >I hope that bunch never enjoys their stolen goods.....it was the idea > that > > >these were earmarked for me at my birth, and they all knew it....I > wouldn't > > >fight for any of them, and that bunch knew it--but they wanted mine AND > > >thiers...so my bad feelings go with them.... > > > > > >when it comes to heirlooms and families....forget it....I will try to > give > > >all my jewelry away before I die, and they all know it....the rest will > be > > >in a will. > > > > > >Doris....A Texan in Georgia..... > > >Still shaking the family tree and > > >dodging the nuts after 30+ years! > > >IBSSG > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > > >To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:57 PM > > >Subject: Re: [BS-L] Administration of wills > > > > > > > > >You should have seen how my dad & his brothers & sisters argued the day > > >after the funeral of my gr.dad! > > > > > >Gr. dad was a mail delivery man in NM, and not wealthy, but they argued > > like > > >they were 10-12 years old, and they were all in their 60's !?! They > > >eventually *drew cards* for every item in the house. My uncle in Oregon, > > >drove to NM with his horse trailer, and had it almost loaded with stuff > > >before we, and the others, got there. > > > > > >It was the most pathetic thing I've ever witnessed, and their behavior > put > > >such a bad taste in my mouth, that I rarely talked to any of them > > >again...even typing about it makes me squeegy. My Dad was the worst of > the > > >lot. He had a lot of money, and yet he bickered, cussed, called them > all > > >names, and argued over every dish that came out of the cupboard. > > > > > >Any respect I had for him vanished the week we were there...I never felt > > the > > >same about him afterward. I was ashamed of them all, and I was stunned > by > > >the g r e e d! > > > > > >Jan C. > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > >To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Date: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:26 PM > > >Subject: Re: [BS-L] Administration of wills > > > > > > > > >> > > >>I haven't, myself. My parents have both handled their parents estates, > at > > >>least in part, no problems. But, I have seen the greedy heirs in some > > other > > >>people's families. Pretty awesome how they fight over other people's > > money, > > >>as if their parents worked their whole life just to leave it to them. > lol > > >> > > >>Jan G. > > >> > > >> > > >><<Don't know if you've been involved in a > > >>probate, but they can be messy. > > >> > > >>Jan C.>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > >>Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > >>http://www.hotmail.com > > >> > > >> > > >>==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > >>--- > > >>The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > by > > >each individual submitter. > > >> > > >>http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html > > >>search the Rootsweb, UsGenWeb and The Social Security Death Index and > > More. > > >> > > >>============================== > > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > >go to: > > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > >--- > > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > > >each individual submitter. > > > > > >The Blacksheep Message boards are at: > > > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.bla > > c > > >ksheep > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go > > >to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > >--- > > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > > each individual submitter. > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: Visit the following website and use the QUIT List or Quit > > Digest Buttons > > >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > > >Contact Jeff Scism, ScismGenie@aol.com for list problems > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > > This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > > A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Situations like that just curl my finger-nails...her kids not visiting her for months before she died...! Then they show up to get the pots & pans... After my Dad died, and my Mom decided to sell their place & move to So. Utah, she told me I had 1st choice of everything in her house (she basically liquidated everything). I have my own home filled with furniture, etc., and I took nothing...not one thing (except my gr.grandfather's little old Safe Deposit box from the 1800's), that my Dad managed to get in NM during the family fight. I gave the old Safe to son Kyle, cause he loves family history, (but he lets me do all the research work). Someday, when I fly away, I'm leaving him all of my genealogy. He's also my computer guru, so maybe someday he'll put it on-line. Anyway....my kids took what they wanted from Mom's house, then we had an estate sale...sold my Dad's boat, guns, snow-mobiles, fishing poles, tools, remaining furniture, etc. My Mom took that money & put it in her *mad money* pocket. A couple of months ago she told me she'd finally spent it, and she wanted to go to the bank & get some more cash...so I took her. My Mum is a real *piece of work*....she's one of a kind, for sure. She's the Gholson....direct male line to her. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: ScismGenie@aol.com <ScismGenie@aol.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: [BSChat] hanging like vultures >My neighbor, Lyndon Johnson, has just moved to Florida. His wife, Eula died >last year, and he is moving in with his EX-wife, after being separated more >than twenty years they are deciding to suport each other in their old age. >She came out last month, and seems to be a wonderful person, I wish them >happiness. > >Lyndon decided that 80 years of acumulated thiongs had to go, so he offered >me the pick of his property (in his home), I gratefully accepted some of his >furniture, and a porch swing he had made, which my kids love. He also gave us >a Glade chair from his liviung room, both of these items are desired by his >step children. They were told by Eula, thier mother, that she had promised >them to my kids, and they after her death insist that Eula told them to come >and get them. > >Lyndon told me to take them, and I did. The kids came with a large truck to >empty the house and were very upset that these two items were not there, they >were in my yard thirty feet away. Some of the other things that Eula had >promised my wife, and Lyndon acknowledged were hers for the taking, were >also taken by the kids, Bridget said "whatever, they are her family, we are >just friends", but the attitude was there ws nothing too small to take. > >Lyndon had told them to come down a month before to pick and choose, but >they said it was too much hassle, and since he was leaving very shortly, he >had to dispose of a lot of things. So he invited in his neighbor, let them >'reserve" what they needed, and promised they could pick them up the day >before he left. THEN the kids showed up. > >Their mother had died a year before, and they made no effort to visit or to >look at her things, she had been hospitalized for MONTHS, and they lived 20 >miles away and didn't visit her in the hospital. > >The other son-in-law lives in Arizona, and made several trips to visit and >help out. > >People are really strange, and when the people they are descended from are >gone, they JUMP to "get their share, fair or not". In this case they made his >departure and the proccess as painful for him as possible, forcing him to >break promises, and put "her' family over what his integrity was. > >He ended up leavinga lot of furnishings in the house, because he had no >place to put any of it, the real estate agent ( same gal we sued for >embezzlement) was eagarly awaiting his departure so she could clean out the >property. he specifically declared the left furnishings were for the new >buyer, as he had promised. I am now "watching" the home and hoping she stays >out. (she has his keys for the new buyer). > > > > > >Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) >~~ >Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site >Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site >manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: >B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n >d i c o t t, > S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. >Nv.) > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Unsubscribe from the list: >Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >