Trying to switch this to chat... Does anyone know what became of Smokey Rogers? He played with Cooley and Tex Williams and was one of the Sons of the Pioneers way back. All this was before I was born. Really! But...during the '50's, Smokey Rogers owned a place called the Bostonia Ballroom in El Cajon CA. I grew up about 6 blocks from that place. And Smokey lived in a little one-story art-and-crafts era bungalow on Bostonia St., then just a little dirt road, about 2 or 3 blocks from the ballroom. I used to walk by both the ballroom and his house on my way home from school. He had a TV show televised from the ballroom every weekday afternoon. For THREE HOURS!!! FIVE DAYS A WEEK!! In case any of you wonder how I OD'd on C/W at a young age... lol Anyway, my mom got me on his show for my third birthday, with a few other kids. A very clear memory for me. By sometime about 1960 or so, the TV show was gone and it seems like sometime after that Smokey moved to Apple Valley and had a ballroom type place up there. Don't know if he's alive or not. But, I sure do have memories of his show on tv, in black and white, on our little 12" screen with the convex sides, inside the "blonde" wood cabinet. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: fivesquirrels@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BS-L] Spade Cooley's real name Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 11:39:56 -0500 Donnell Clyde "Spade" Cooley was charged with murder in the first degree. The State of California charged that Spade "did willfully, on the night of April 3rd, kick, beat, and strangle Ella Mae Cooley, his wife." The crime took place at Spade's plush desert ranch near the community of Mojave, during a "wild, drunken attempt to reconcile their wrecked marriage." Spade entered a plea of ''not guilty and not guilty by reason of insanity." Spade liked to dress in "some of those $500 handmade western suits, white Stetson and a string tie and expensive boots." Copied from "Inside the Goldmine" ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== ~~~~ The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: Political discussion/ views Religious and inspirational postings, Politically "Hot" Topics Advertising and chain letters ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Can't speak for the Denver area (was only in the state once & that was over 50 years ago), but most prisions have a burial area near the prison for bodies rejected by the prisioner's family. I would contact the state Bureau of Corrections to get the info. They should have records of what became of the bodies. Mike IBSSG > [Original Message] > From: Gwen Griggs <mstblu3@fone.net> > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/1/2002 9:52:33 AM > Subject: [BS-L] Burials > > Ok since I am new to the list I will get right to it. I am looking for information on my Blacksheep, I wish to know if anybody can tell me how I would go about finding a burial place for someone that spent his life in Prison? When they die does the family get the body?What if that family rejects it ,where does it go ,does the State bury them ? If so where? > Mistyblue > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > The Blacksheep Message boards are at: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac ksheep > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Shuler Michael --- grinch42@mindspring.com --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

Hi, Sheepers! Enjoy that "Redneck Neighbor" website. We had a 'know-it-all neighbor once: if he didn't know about it or the answer to it, it had never happened. He was one of those 'no fertilizer' farmers out in their backyard. He planted runner beans - used old bedsprings for poles and the 'running'. Those bedsprings stayed up no matter what the month or the season. We planted bushes to spare us the sight - they finally grew tall enough to halfway cover that bedspring eyesore. So - what does the neighbor do: while we are away, he plants wild honeysuckle on his side of the fence - actually, our fence. I am still fighting the shoots from that D*@# honeysuckle! These neighbors also had rabbits in their backyard - had a warren and did keep them in that. They had a small lap dog (wife's dog),then added a a brown Doberman - Duke (husband's dog) - to their animal population...Duke was 'in love' with that poor lapdog! Never mind the leash law in our town: they waited till 'dark' and let Duke loose. One afternoon I was out in our side yard - had a long-handel shovel - so must have been planting something or digging something else up. Duke was outside with the teenage son, but Duke looked like he would like to take a bite out of my leg, or other fleshy part of my body. I thought, 'ole boy, just make a move and you are gonna get it with this shovel I got in my hands!' Forgot to mention the corn crop. Oh, yes, any farmer can tell you that growing corn is a surefire way of attracting rats - right! The neighbor would sit on their backporch and shot at the rats with a B-B pistol. Well - one year when the corn was just about ready to pick, either rats or squirrels got to it: ate all the kernals off and left the cobs on the stalks! Ha-ha-ha-ha! What a weird sight! Well - the upshot of this domestic bliss that used to be next door to us is that the husband nearly died from a massive heart attack. He recovers and, as I have been told, that like many men especially, decided to begin a new life to sort of make up for what he missed the first time around. However, he had, just previous to the bad heart attack, signed a 2d mortage on the house so his wife could get a new car: needed one to get to her job. Divorce degree: he gets his own car, he continues to pay for 2d mortage on house (taken out to get the car the ex-wife gets). She gets the house with its regular mortage payment each month -- which she eventually sells since she can't afford the house payments, expecially after spending a year in the slammer and having to make restitution on the stolen church funds. And - she gets 1/2 the ex husband's military retirement pay! Oh, Ouch! Post Divorce Degree: 1 - old bedsprings and tepee poles get torn down and put out for trash collection. 2 - Non-fertilizer garden gets all torn up...looked like somebody tok a pickax to it with big-time rage venting. 3 - Rabbits, pens and all, put out to street with sign, "Free - take 'em all" Have you ever been away from home on a trip or vacation and come home to find things happened, big time, while you were away? We went on a week's trip - came home - husband had left the wife...divorce in the works. A few months later, we go away for a few days - wife is arrested and is the slammer for grand theft! The job she needed the new car for: church office; grand theft of $10,000 from church offerings/fund raising projects. There is more but know your eyes are more than tired from reading all of this. Have a great tomorrow! Shirley: bobert@i-1.net

You can darn well bet that the gas company wouldn't be paying back that money if they didn't have to and you can be sure that it won't break them. I wonder how much they got away with that hasn't been discovered. When I lived in Oklahoma I always wondered why the gas rates were so high in a state that had so many gas & oil wells. Gail

Welcome to corporate America...not saying that it's right, cause it's NOT. But I fear I've come to understand that that's the way things are in these United States. Mike IBSSG > [Original Message] > From: JACK CHILDERS <jaxone1234@msn.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/30/2002 5:08:53 PM > Subject: [BSChat] POOR THINGS > > Our state gas supplier, ONG, has settled a court case with the corporation commission. They deny any wrong doing, but admit they overcharged us customers 83 million dollars, and have agreed to pay that amount back to us. > > Well excuuuuuuuse me, I just must be in the wrong business. Now what kind of a company is willing to give up 83 million dollars when they admit no wrong doing ? Great cats, if I had to give back 83 dollars it would break me. > > And the disgusting thing is that even after giving back 83 million dollars I bet they will still make a profit. > > Jack Childers in OKC > International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists > http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm > "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" > Jaxone1234@msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Shuler Michael --- grinch42@mindspring.com --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

In a message dated 4/30/02 3:46:27 PM Mountain Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > What do they do to make it look right, after those few years? I'm not certain. I have seen some they have done. It is the weather that makes the repair show. Maybe Del knows how it is done and has suggestions. Hey Del. Any comments? Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Our state gas supplier, ONG, has settled a court case with the corporation commission. They deny any wrong doing, but admit they overcharged us customers 83 million dollars, and have agreed to pay that amount back to us. Well excuuuuuuuse me, I just must be in the wrong business. Now what kind of a company is willing to give up 83 million dollars when they admit no wrong doing ? Great cats, if I had to give back 83 dollars it would break me. And the disgusting thing is that even after giving back 83 million dollars I bet they will still make a profit. Jack Childers in OKC International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" Jaxone1234@msn.com

This appears to be for real and, if you think you're neighbors are a pain in the patoot, check out what this poor shmoe is going through with his..... :-) http://www.knology.net/~carlos/redneck.htm Best, SueB

Persons Unknown are calling Rootsweb subscribers and asking for Credit Card numbers, and stating they are Ancestry.com, and renewing the account subscription. This is a reported scam. If you are contacted , ask for acall back number, and report the incident to Rootsweb helpdesk, or call ancestry yourself and verify ( not the call back number, you want to report that to Ancestry, it will probably be fake anyway.) For those who HAVE ancestry and wish to discontinue give a 30 DAY WRITTEN notice by USMail, see the Hall of Shame site for details. http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame.html Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

> Oops, this is happening tomorrow, 30 April 2002.... Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

In a message dated 4/29/2002 4:19:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vicki@rootsweb.com writes: > In order to improve the Message Boards performance, we will be > replacing one of its database servers on Tuesday, 30 April 2002 at > 9:00 am MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). The server replacement may > impact people's ability to log into the Message Boards. If all goes as > planned, we expect the Message Boards to be back at peak performance > by mid-afternoon (Mountain Daylight Time). > > We thank you for your patience during this time. > > Sincerely, > > RootsWeb Message Board Team Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

In a message dated 4/29/2002 11:33:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > Jack, I recall having a biology teacher in high school who had chosen a > favorite brand of catsup (ketchup) based on it having the fewest parts of > tomato worm in it. > > There's rat hair in chocolate. Bound to happen. And who knows how many bugs > > of all kinds. And it's all legal, up to a certain amount. > > Big kitchens with lots of cooking going on and stored food are nearly > impossible to keep truly clean. Bugs and rodents find them by scent. > > Jan G. > Read this book, by Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle". Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

<ScismGenie@aol.com> wrote..... > Read this book, by Upton Sinclair, "The Jungle". < Oh, yeah! We HAD to read it in Jr. High. Talk about enlightening! Made me want to run out and eat sausauge..... NOT! ;-) Best, SueB

In a message dated 4/29/02 10:12:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time, jaxone1234@msn.com writes: > Its not as though a tombstone engraving mistake can be erased and done over. > Jack, my sister and brother-in-law corrects minor mistakes on Tombstones all the time. They can make it look like it wasn't there, this lasts for several years before the correction shows. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Sharon - I do hope those peanuts didn't come from ex Prez. Jimmy Carter's peanut farm...in Georgia. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Workman <workman@dreamscape.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: [BSChat] Peanut Butter >Years ago, I read a consumers' reports kind of study on peanut butter. Gif >had the fewest rat ****s in it. I wouldn't eat any other brand. > >Sharon >IBSSG > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Unsubscribe from the list: >Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Aleta, What do they do to make it look right, after those few years? Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: AletaM@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] TOMBSTONES Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:48:09 EDT In a message dated 4/29/02 10:12:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time, jaxone1234@msn.com writes: > Its not as though a tombstone engraving mistake can be erased and done over. > Jack, my sister and brother-in-law corrects minor mistakes on Tombstones all the time. They can make it look like it wasn't there, this lasts for several years before the correction shows. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Sue - Anyone who is 55 yrs old is considered Senior Citizen now-days. Remember Gloria Steinham...the women's libber....she's 64 now. Elizabeth Taylor is 70.... My Mom is 86 & has no clue about computers. I think what she would like is a new man in her life...ROFL Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: Sue & Bobby Bates <bsbates@netease.net> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:25 AM Subject: [BSChat] Fw: Senior Citizen >This in from my 92 year old uncle (b. 1911) who got his first computer about 3-4 yrs. ago and has been enjoying the 'net ever since! :-) >SueB > >> > Senior citizens are constantly being criticized for every >conceivable deficiency of the modern world, real or imaginary. We know we take responsibility for all we have done and do not blame others. BUT, upon reflection, we would like to point out that it was NOT the senior citizens who took: > >The melody out of music, >the pride out of appearance, >the romance out of love, >the commitment out of marriage, >the responsibility out of parenthood, >the togetherness out of the family, >the learning out of education, >the service out of patriotism, >the religion out of school, >the Golden Rule from rulers, >the nativity scene out of cities, >the civility out of behavior, >the refinement out of language, >the dedication out of employment, >the prudence out of spending, or >the ambition out of achievement, >>> > > > And, we certainly are NOT the ones who eliminated patience and tolerance from personal relationships and interactions with others!! Does anyone under the age of 50 know the lyrics to the Star Spangled Banner? Just look at the Seniors with tears in their eyes and pride in their hearts as they stand at attention with their hand over their hearts! > Remember.......Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > Yes, I am a SENIOR CITIZEN! I'm the life of the party...even if it lasts until 8 p.m. I'm very good at opening childproof caps with a hammer. I'm usually interested in going home before I get to where I am going. I'm awake many hours before my body allows me to get up. > I'm smiling all the time because I can't hear a thing you're saying. I'm very good at telling stories; over and over and over and over... I'm aware that other people's grandchildren are not as cute as mine. I'm so cared for -- long term care, eye care, private care, dental care. > I'm not grouchy, I just don't like traffic, waiting, crowds, politicians. I'm sure everything I can't find is in a secure place. I'm wrinkled, saggy, lumpy, and that's just my left leg. I'm having trouble remembering simple words like... I'm realizing that aging is not for wimps. > I'm sure they are making adults much younger these days. I'm wondering, if you're only as old as you feel, how could I be alive at 150? I'm a walking storeroom of facts.....I've just lost the storeroom. Yes, I'm a SENIOR CITIZEN and I think I am having the time of my life! >>> > Now if I could only remember who sent this to me, I would send it to many more! > Did I already send this to you? > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sheesh, Jack...chickens riddled with cancer spots...! As you know I lived in Thailand... had rats running around outside carrying the Plague, we couldn't even brush our teeth with the filthy water, and Amoebae dysentery was everywhere & in everything. Son Kyle was just learning to walk, and he had dysentery so bad I thought I was going to lose him...his fever shot-up to 106. And he was just eating bottled baby foods, and drinking canned milk from the Army PX (shipped in from the States). Germs were everywhere... Not to bore you with the all of the health regimes I followed living there - I think I became super sensitive to diseases, water, food & preparation, and over-all cleanliness, especially in the kitchen, and floors, living there. To this day, no-one walks into my house with their dirty shoes on, including me. I kick them off at the front door. And my kids are the same way in their homes. Everyone who knows me, shucks their shoes at my front door. Anyway, to my knowledge I've never seen a chicken with cancer spots...and I can imagine your disgust at some jerk in prison spitting in the food....acting like the low-caliber person they were, that landed them there in the 1st place. I cannot even imagine being housed-up (for over 20 years), with ranting, bitter, convicts. And, I'm amazed that you made it through, in one piece, to look forward to a better life...that you loved your Mom (in spite of everything), and your family histories. And I know....restaurants bother me to the 9th degree! Jan C. IBSSG ----Original Message----- From: JACK CHILDERS <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: [BSChat] CATS >Ah, Jan Curtis. > >I first ran away from home at age 12. There were a few times when I was so hungry that I ate food out of a dumpster outside of a restaurant. > >Prisons were about as bad. I worked in the kitchen a lot while in prison. I have seen them fry chickens that were riddled with cancer spots. When they crack eggs there was often time feces on the eggshells and some of that fell into the frying pan and no one bothered to pick it out. > >When you go through the chow line you never know when one of the cooks has had a bad day and spit, or worse, in the food. Sometimes you get a real nut in the kitchen who puts a dab of ammonia in the food. Doesn't kill you but sure gives you diarrhea. > >I have lived in prison cells that had open trap toilets and at night huge rats come up from the sewers and jump out of your toilet and prowl all over your belongings. > >I learned a long time ago that in order to keep from starving to death you just closed your eyes and ate what you could and hoped it didn't kill you or make you too sick. After all, the local McDonald's was kind of off limits to me. > >Do you think a few cat hairs will worry me at this late date ? I mean, I do clean house, I do clean my kitchen. But I do have cats, and I feel sure a cat hair has crept into my food chain now and then. I try not to let that happen, but with all the other contaminants floating around everyone's food supply, a cat hair now and then won't kill me. I would be more worried about the chemicals they use in growing the food long before I ever lay hands on it. And when one eats in a restaurant, do you know the health departments actually allows X number of insect parts to be in the food ? I hold a certified food handler's license here in Oklahoma, know what I am talking about. Check out the FDA rules on foreign bodies in food products, then you may not be so concerned over a cat hair. > >Jack Childers in OKC >International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists >http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm >"I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" >Jaxone1234@msn.com > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Unsubscribe from the list: >Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Well said, Shirley. The thieves and vandals deserve a special place in hades. Sharon IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "bobert" <bobert@i-1.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: [BSChat] STRAY TOMBSTONE > Hi - heard it all! Tombstones don't 'stray' - they get stolen. My > cousin's great-grandparents stones were stolen: another cousin knew by > whom. Stones were used as decorations in the jerk's (thief's) garden. > Now, that is creepy! My cousin notified the sheriff - the stones were > retrieved - the thief was hauled into court, fined, and had to also pay > for cost of placing the stones back in the cemetery. This happened in a > very small town, so there went whatever reputation the thief had in the > first place - it's in the toilet now! > It takes a real special SOB to steal tombstones! > > Shirley: bobert@i-1.net > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Years ago, I read a consumers' reports kind of study on peanut butter. Gif had the fewest rat ****s in it. I wouldn't eat any other brand. Sharon IBSSG