Jack, she's just trying to keep herself from getting hurt by her again. Some people bring more pain than good with them. Not hearing from her again would probably keep the pain away. Well, not all of it... She'll probably feel like my husband does about his mom. Says that when she dies, he doesn't know if he'll be sad or not. I think he will, if only for the way he wishes things could have been, instead of the way she was. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] ACHES AND PAINS Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 07:35:04 -0500 For the past week I have been going through an acute attack of arthritis in my right arm, specifically in wrist. It made it almost impossible to type, shave, pick anything up, or even turn the key in my car ignition. I would try to do something and the pain would be so bad it would make me cry. Finally got to see my doctor last night (his office is only open from 5 pm to 8 pm) and he prescribed Feldene. After two pills the pain is gone. I can still feel a certain tightness in the movement of my wrist, but the searing pain is gone. I have had a touch of arthritis all of my life but never that painful. On another front, still aches and pains, Kade's mama is flying to Florida today. She says is only going for a visit, but neither I nor Kade believe that. She has packed all her favorite things and gave the rest away, cut all ties to people she knows, said her permanent goodbye to friends, etc, so it sounds to me like she is going to get down there and stay . She has done me so many bad turns I won't miss her, but for what she will be doing to Kade I will never forgive her. Kade told her goodbye last night and this morning Kade won't even go say goodbye again, said she done said her goodbye. Kade hasn't said much about it except that if her mama doesn't come back she never wants to hear from her again. That's such a hard stance for a little girl to take. Too bad the mama didn't leave years ago before Kade got to know her. Jack Childers in OKC International Society of BlackSheep Genealogists http://www.gbnf.com/genealogy/childers/html/surnames.htm "I've traveled a long way and some of the roads were not paved" Jaxone1234@msn.com ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

I think it was supposed to be about entertainment, especially during the hard times of the depression and WWII. The Old West was not the first or the last period of history to be glorified by Hollywood, with very little reality involved in it. Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BS-L] Spade Cooley/band member Smokey Rogers Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:32:21 -0600 Thanks Bob...I really had to clue to who these men were. I've never listened to Country, but I do remember hearing someone (long ago), sing the smoke that cigarette ditty. And of course, we all remember Roy Rogers & his horse...and Gene Autry. I don't think my gr.grandfather in Texas would have been *amused* at the Hollywood version of the "cowboy & Indians" era....(ca 1840-1886). It was a bloody, wicked, and deadly page in history. They didn't sing songs riding into the sunset, or wear spotless white cowboy outfits like Roy Rogers did, nor did they harmonize singing with the wife much...my gr.grandmother Maggie packed a Colt 45, and had a loaded Winchester in the kitchen. Anything to make a buck...Spade Cooley, et al. And Roy Rogers would have been dead-in-the-water had he lived during that period of time...he was too pretty, clever, and cute....someone would have picked him off. So much for the movies.....<g> Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: Bob D Call <r_d_call@juno.com> To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Spade Cooley/band member Smokey Rogers > >On Wed, 1 May 2002 22:03:19 -0600 "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> writes: >> What happened to Spade Cooley? Who was Smokey Rogers? Country >> Western? >> >> Jan C. > >1> Spade was due to be released in 1969. A few days or so before his >release he was allowed to perform at a concert. He had a heart attack and >died, off-stage I believe. He spent the minimum time in prison. >Also it was he who fired Tex. Interesting note on Tex, one of the online >biographies claims he was a chain smoker. One of his biggest hits was >"Smoke, Smoke, Smoke That Cigarette" an anti smoking song. > >2> Smokey Rogers was one of the band members. As far as being "band >leader" goes, my oldest brother remembers my father having to continually >use the union book to locate replacement musicians during WW2 as the >turnover was high due to enlistment. But the one they considered the >leader was Tex Williams, it was he the followed when Spade fired him. > >3> NOT Country Western, Western Swing was the type of music. Eventually >WS merged with CW though. > >By the way, Spade was Native American. He greatly resembled Roy Rogers, >was his stand-in. >Spade was in the process of developing his own amusement park when he >killed his wife. >Most of the band members were heavy drinkers and gambelers. > >Bob > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== >--- > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. >The BlackSheep Rootsweb Links page has many Rootsweb based search engines,as well as links to the BlackSheep Message Boards. >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html >--- >The Blacksheep Message boards are at: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac ksheep > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== --- The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 5/1/02 10:57:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, jcurtis@redrock.net writes: > ....my server Burgoyne > never calls me on the phone & I'll bet AOL doesn't call you. Jan C., and those who are not familiar with AOL, maybe some who have AOL. AOL has preference settings, if you don't carefully go through them, yes AOL will call you about special offers they will have. Some are from them, some from other companies through them. I am one who has this setting at Don't call. So, if you have AOL, take the time to carefully go through your preferences and set them where you want them. None of them are permanent, all can be revised. Keyword " preference " should get you there. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Guess I didn't come in contact with the same caliber of criminals. The ones I helped defend, thought of themselves as innocent. Bundy represented himself in court...can't remember if he ever admitted to anything. Oh well.... And you're right, I'm definately on the other-side-of-the-fence. I take your word for what happens inside prisons....I've never been inside one. The closest I came was when my daughter took me through her Salem, OR State Hosp. sex offenders ward, where she worked. Got to meet some of the *nifty* guys incarcerated there. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: JACK CHILDERS <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS >I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. > >Jack Childers on OKC > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 5/2/2002 6:56:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > Jack, I wonder if the ones who are in prison for "white collar > crimes"--stock manipulation, scams of one kind or another, etc., are the > same. I think most white collar criminals never see the inside. Probation is the norm, community service, and not so frequent checks by the Probation department. JUST getting the courts to process a white collar crime is near impossible. Police will not arrest on it unless it is REALLY big. Otherwise the victims are told "civil court", as we were. The people we finally nailed in Civil Court for embezzlement,. although they admitted everything we said they did in court, Still appealed the case, and we had to do it all over again. They to this day still do not "see" that they broke the laws, or what they did as being "improper". (In fact they told everyone they were exonerated, but still had to pay on a "technicality", and that we the victims were the biggest liars ever to walk into a courtroom. So no, they do NOT even know when they do wrong, or feel remorse over it. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

In a message dated 5/2/02 8:22:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > I wonder whose chart the nurse was looking at when she asked the > stupid question. You would be amazed what can happen in a hospital. I had my Gallbladder removed at age 30 and I'm a definite female. One day, when my doctor had assured me there would be no lab work that day, a Lab Tech came in to draw blood. I started questioning him about it, as I I got more upset by the minute, needles terrify me. He answered as he looked for an "artery" to draw from. He was just going to try a questionable place when my doctor walked in and asked what was going on. It turned out that three doors down the hall, there was a male patient, initial "A," last name MORRISON, mid 50s, who had a heart attack. This lab Tech had the wrong patient. He didn't have the imagination to believe that there could be two patients on the same floor with the same looking name, one female, one male. He really got chewed on for not checking my wrist band with his paperwork. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

I took some inmates to the hospital one day the lady doing the screening asked "Is she black? "I looked at the lady said NO And with out blinking the women said "Has she ever been black." duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yes they are Jan. Ever read The Brotherhood by Grisham Even if tey didn't need the money the Scam is the thing ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS > > Jack, I wonder if the ones who are in prison for "white collar > crimes"--stock manipulation, scams of one kind or another, etc., are the > same. Seems like they seem to spend their time in prison creating the next > scheme, for when they get out. I don't know if it occurs to them to admit to > a crime. Not enough conscience. > > Jan G. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS > Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:19:33 -0500 > > I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part > of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too > much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known > hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in > admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they > were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just > like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like > OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. > > Jack Childers on OKC > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

While I'm still subscribing to Ancestry because of not having finished researching the Census reports (going to the local library is a big hassle, since it's downtown...no place to park without feeding a parking meter, you have to take a number in the genealogy section to wait for a microfilm reader, etc.). However, I am SO in agreement with all you say...in fact, I'm still expecting them to come out with an ad offering us their mother..."she's a virgin". Maybe they won't go that far, but they will certainly sell anything they can for the almighty dollar! Mike IBSSG > [Original Message] > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/2/2002 9:06:34 AM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Ancestry scam happening > > > > Yes, but does ancestry tell you that? NO. They send you an email saying "if > you don't want to renew, then call this number before this date". Doesn't > work. And some people have been overcharged. So, to keep them from scamming > you for another year's dues--or more, you have to go to the trouble of > treating them like the scammers they seem to want to be and send a letter, > snail mail, certified, to get them to stop charging you. > > Perhaps the word is getting out. And that's leading to the phone calls. They > will be successful only as long as we let them. > > Jan g. > > > <<Will Ancestry automatically bill your credit card for a non-refundable > renewal? YES. IF yoiu don't write (by USMail) 30 days before the expiration > and CANCEL.(Better spend some extra and get it "certified" Return reciept > requested.>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Shuler Michael --- grinch42@mindspring.com --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

Mike, you're "mom" idea may not be far from the mark!! lol I wouldn't be surprised. Their "nice" is a thin veneer. The rest is greed, and all the ugly stuff that goes with it. Jan G. <<However, I am SO in agreement with all you say...in fact, I'm still expecting them to come out with an ad offering us their mother..."she's a virgin". Maybe they won't go that far, but they will certainly sell anything they can for the almighty dollar! Mike>> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

My grandson, the jock, is graduating from high school. First there is the letterman jacket that all the football players have to have, al least he got to wear it for four years. He made varsity his Freshman year. Then to graduate you have the following costs that I know of: pictures, ring, prom, senior day, senior trip, cap and gown. It is just to costly. What happened to the days when you just rented the cap and gown and bought the tassel? It is a rip off. I am glad and I know his parents are, that he didn't want to do all of the above, he just wanted to play football and graduate, he did want a ring, which he bought. His mother wanted the pictures, and I don't blame her. I like pictures, they stay around for a long while. Just the other day I was looking at some pictures of my grandfather when he was a young man. I only remember him as being old (remember I was very young) anyone over the age of 18 was old to me then. But I regress, they just can't afford all the stuff that goes with graduating and they have three more children to go. They would rather help with college. The kids have a fund for college so their tuition and books are paid for but where they live doesn't have a college so they have to go somewhere else. So you have living expenses and that is not cheep. But what happens when the kids just don't have the money for a cap and gown? Poor is not bad, it isn't a crime, they should not be punished. My two cents. Sorry for rambling, thanks for listening. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: [BSChat] GRADUATING > I went to pick David up from school yesterday and was told by the teachers that if David didn't pay for his cap and gown he would not be allowed to graduate from high school, and the money had to be paid that day, in cash, no checks. > > Well, that just didn't set right with me. I politely informed them that the last I knew it was not illegal to be poor, and that David had earned his graduation through 4 years of school work (he's on the honor roll) and he was going to graduate or the supreme court would be asking why. > > I didn't have the cash that day. I could have written them a check, but they wouldn't take that. It would be nice if David could have bought the graduation packet, had a real good prom, etc., but I was barely able to buy his graduation pictures and ring, let alone anything else. > > They finally decided that they would donate his cap and gown to him. > > I have had so much trouble with this school. No wonder kids want to drop out. > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes, you think correctly, Bundy did. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS > I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. > > Jack Childers on OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yeah, that's about how I found it Karen. They may have any number of rationalizations as to why they did the crime, but most are up front about their guilt. The problem is in who is listening . Many convicts will spin a yard if they think they are talking to a square john. It could be just a simple case of they not wanting to level with the person they are talking to. I know in my own case if I felt the other person was antagonistic towards me I may have told them the biggest line of BS imaginable just as a way of showing my contempt towards them for asking such stupid questions. I guess I get it from my mother. She couldn't stand being asked dumb questions and would give a dumb answer if she was. One time, when she was in the hospital for a stroke at age 73 the nurse asked her if she were pregnant. That so offended my mother's sense of stupidness that she told them she was, and had several pre-school age kids at home that she needed to get back to as soon as possible. The hospital called me and asked me if I thought my mother was deranged. I told them, no, someone must have asked her a stupid question, and come to find out they sure had. Well, convicts are kind of the same way. Ask them a dumb, or a sob sister question, and you will get a dumb answer. Be upfront with them and they will be upfront with you. Convicts make their living victimizing people and they are quick to read a person, and have contempt for a stupid person. But then, don't we all. Jack Childers in OKC

yes he did Jack at the end he even tried to get a stay to show where he left some victiums they never found. In LCIW we are not allowed to ask what someone is in for nor are we told by Admistration butI can tell you what almost every women is in for because they tell us. Most will admit to whatthey did some with excuses but most are pretty up front. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS > I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. > > Jack Childers on OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I went to pick David up from school yesterday and was told by the teachers that if David didn't pay for his cap and gown he would not be allowed to graduate from high school, and the money had to be paid that day, in cash, no checks. Well, that just didn't set right with me. I politely informed them that the last I knew it was not illegal to be poor, and that David had earned his graduation through 4 years of school work (he's on the honor roll) and he was going to graduate or the supreme court would be asking why. I didn't have the cash that day. I could have written them a check, but they wouldn't take that. It would be nice if David could have bought the graduation packet, had a real good prom, etc., but I was barely able to buy his graduation pictures and ring, let alone anything else. They finally decided that they would donate his cap and gown to him. I have had so much trouble with this school. No wonder kids want to drop out. Jack Childers in OKC

I pay the phone company $1.39 a month for the service of repair, no questions asked. Whatever goes wrong I just call them and they come out within 24 hours to repair it, even if my dog did chew the wire in half ! This wire repair thing is just insurance, and no company wants the reputation of not honoring their insurance policies. Jack Childers in OKC

I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. Jack Childers on OKC

Jack, I wonder whose chart the nurse was looking at when she asked the stupid question. Could have been more than one thing going wrong, not just the nurse not noticing her age. Jan g. << I guess I get it from my mother. She couldn't stand being asked dumb questions and would give a dumb answer if she was. One time, when she was in the hospital for a stroke at age 73 the nurse asked her if she were pregnant. That so offended my mother's sense of stupidness that she told them she was, and had several pre-school age kids at home that she needed to get back to as soon as possible. The hospital called me and asked me if I thought my mother was deranged. I told them, no, someone must have asked her a stupid question, and come to find out they sure had.>> _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Yes, but does ancestry tell you that? NO. They send you an email saying "if you don't want to renew, then call this number before this date". Doesn't work. And some people have been overcharged. So, to keep them from scamming you for another year's dues--or more, you have to go to the trouble of treating them like the scammers they seem to want to be and send a letter, snail mail, certified, to get them to stop charging you. Perhaps the word is getting out. And that's leading to the phone calls. They will be successful only as long as we let them. Jan g. <<Will Ancestry automatically bill your credit card for a non-refundable renewal? YES. IF yoiu don't write (by USMail) 30 days before the expiration and CANCEL.(Better spend some extra and get it "certified" Return reciept requested.>> _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Jack, I wonder if the ones who are in prison for "white collar crimes"--stock manipulation, scams of one kind or another, etc., are the same. Seems like they seem to spend their time in prison creating the next scheme, for when they get out. I don't know if it occurs to them to admit to a crime. Not enough conscience. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] POOR THINGS Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 07:19:33 -0500 I have heard you comment before on the lack of admitting guilt on the part of criminals. You either don't know the same criminals I do or you are too much on the other side of the fence to hear the truth. I have known hundreds, no, thousands, of men in prison who had no difficulty in admitting their guilt. In fact, the majority of men I knew admitted they were guilty. The ones who deny guilt are the exception in my book. Just like with most things, you hear the most about the odd man out, like OJ/Bundy. Come to think about it, I think even Ted Bundy admitted guilt. Jack Childers on OKC _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com