----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Ouija > > Sorry, Jan, I misunderstood. <g> > > Jan G. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > > > Of course they were dead...one doesn't do Ouija Board, looking for living > people... > > Jan C. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > > > >Is that when they were declared dead??? > > > >Jan G. > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > > > > > >Mel - I did the Ouija board once...it just lay there...nothing happened. > >There was no energy. > > > >The same thing has happened with a few of my old ancestors. > > > >Jan C. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: > Political discussion/ views > Religious and inspirational postings, > Politically "Hot" Topics > Advertising and chain letters > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Ouija boards > > Sure, Terri. > > Jan G. > > > <<My grandmother's brother haunted her childhood home. > And my great grandfather appeared in a dream that totally spooked my > grandmother by events that happened later. > Interested in the story? > Terri>> > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~~ > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Hall of Shame portion of our website. > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Ouija > Of course they were dead...one doesn't do Ouija Board, looking for living > people... > > Jan C. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:54 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Ouija > > > > > >Is that when they were declared dead??? > > > >Jan G. > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > > > > > >Mel - I did the Ouija board once...it just lay there...nothing happened. > >There was no energy. > > > >The same thing has happened with a few of my old ancestors. > > > >Jan C. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > >--- > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > >Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > >BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, > >Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) > >Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" > and funds. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, > Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) > Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Ouija > > Is that when they were declared dead??? > > Jan G. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > > > Mel - I did the Ouija board once...it just lay there...nothing happened. > There was no energy. > > The same thing has happened with a few of my old ancestors. > > Jan C. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, > Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) > Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Tea Leafs > > > Jan, does your mom come up with anything uncannily accurate with her tea > leaves? > > My mom is a scorpio, too, but she's spooky for entirely different reasons. > lol > > Jan g. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BS-L] Re: Tea Leafs > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 23:08:10 -0600 > > Don't laugh, Jan G., my old Mom knows how to read tea leaves....how do we > spell that? Leaves or leafs. > > My Mom gets really spookey sometimes...she's a Scorpio, and thinks she can > see *beyond.* > > Jan C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] OUI-JA > > > > > > > >Beyond a doubt, Herb! lol Just like reading tea leaves or whispering to a > >cat. > > > >Jan G. > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: HMELENDY@aol.com > > > >That there oui-ja stuff sounds kinda-like the sorta thing could of got ya > >hung up in Salem, back in '92. > > > >Herb Melendy, IBSSG > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > >~~~~ > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > >This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > >A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: > Political discussion/ views > Religious and inspirational postings, > Politically "Hot" Topics > Advertising and chain letters > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, > Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) > Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Let's take this to Chat, pleez! Thx! SB ----- Original Message ----- From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: [BS-L] Re: Ouija > Mel - I did the Ouija board once...it just lay there...nothing happened. > There was no energy. > > The same thing has happened with a few of my old ancestors. > > Jan C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mellie <Mel@i12.com> > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:21 AM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Missing Benton > > > >Ouija scares the hell out of a lot of folk, my dad had a hysterical turn > >when my mom and her friend were "playing" with one many years ago! > >it used to be made by waddingtons and sold in Wollworths, now you can't get > >one anywehre, folk think you are nuts or a witch if you wnat a ouija board, > >me I am fascinated by that stuff! > >i wanna come play! > >Mellie > >IBSSG > > > >How Come My Coat Of Arms has Ties At The Back? > > > >List Admin: > > AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com BAGNALL-L@rootsweb.com > >BATE-L@rootsweb.com > > BENTON-ENG-L@rootsweb.com BLACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com FEREDAY-L@rootsweb.com > >HOLLOWOOD-L@rootsweb.com HOWDLE-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Attachments are not enclosed unless previously notified > >My AVG is updated every 24 hours > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02 > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > >--- > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html > >search the Rootsweb, UsGenWeb and The Social Security Death Index and More. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html > search the Rootsweb, UsGenWeb and The Social Security Death Index and More. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
CHAT pleez................... thx! SB ----- Original Message ----- From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: [BS-L] Re: Tea Leafs > Don't laugh, Jan G., my old Mom knows how to read tea leaves....how do we spell that? Leaves or leafs. > > My Mom gets really spookey sometimes...she's a Scorpio, and thinks she can see *beyond.* > > Jan C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] OUI-JA > > > > > > > >Beyond a doubt, Herb! lol Just like reading tea leaves or whispering to a > >cat. > > > >Jan G. > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: HMELENDY@aol.com > > > >That there oui-ja stuff sounds kinda-like the sorta thing could of got ya > >hung up in Salem, back in '92. > > > >Herb Melendy, IBSSG > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > >~~~~ > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > >This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > >A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: > Political discussion/ views > Religious and inspirational postings, > Politically "Hot" Topics > Advertising and chain letters > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Moving this to Chat, pleez..... thx! ;-) SB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma" <norma@normasplace.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Ouija boards > Hello, Love ghost stories, Many years ago we use to sit under the Aladdin Lamps and an old firestove in the dead of winter in N.D.and the old folks would talk for hours, It was a good life. Norma IBSSG > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HBalc27124@aol.com> > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Ouija boards > > > > I don't think Jasper was family. I think Grandma got the name "Jasper" > > because she couldn't think of "Casper". Honest. > > My grandmother's brother haunted her childhood home. > > And my great grandfather appeared in a dream that totally spooked my > > grandmother by events that happened later. > > Interested in the story? > > Terri > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > --- > > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > TENDER LAMB CORNER: If your Blacksheep is still living, or public posting > may cause trouble, send the information to our TLC Coordinator, Sue Bates; > BSBates@netease.net, Confidentiality maintained. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > TENDER LAMB CORNER: If your Blacksheep is still living, or public posting may cause trouble, send the information to our TLC Coordinator, Sue Bates; BSBates@netease.net, Confidentiality maintained. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
"jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> wrote..... >.... I've taken Norvasc for high BP for 4 yrs. During my last little health thing, my blood pressure was tested every week, and it was all over the place....a high of 172/94, to 120/80....which told me the pills don't mean squat.< It tells me that the medication isn't working for you and that it's time to find a more compatible BP medication, maybe. Best, SueB
Let's take the Ouija boards and ghosts and such to Chat-L, pleeeeezzzz..... ;-) Thx! SB ----- Original Message ----- From: <TANUKIE@aol.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Ouija boards > Yes > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~~ > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Hall of Shame portion of our website. > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/shame.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Chat PLEEZ........ thx! ;-) SB ----- Original Message ----- From: <HBalc27124@aol.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Ouija boards > I don't think Jasper was family. I think Grandma got the name "Jasper" > because she couldn't think of "Casper". Honest. > My grandmother's brother haunted her childhood home. > And my great grandfather appeared in a dream that totally spooked my > grandmother by events that happened later. > Interested in the story? > Terri > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > TENDER LAMB CORNER: If your Blacksheep is still living, or public posting may cause trouble, send the information to our TLC Coordinator, Sue Bates; BSBates@netease.net, Confidentiality maintained. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
I had a friend's mother read my tea leaves, she was right on. Things I didn't know and she couldn't know, like my daughter getting pregnant a couple of months before she did. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Tea Leafs > > > Jan, does your mom come up with anything uncannily accurate with her tea > leaves? > > My mom is a scorpio, too, but she's spooky for entirely different reasons. > lol > > Jan g. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BS-L] Re: Tea Leafs > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 23:08:10 -0600 > > Don't laugh, Jan G., my old Mom knows how to read tea leaves....how do we > spell that? Leaves or leafs. > > My Mom gets really spookey sometimes...she's a Scorpio, and thinks she can > see *beyond.* > > Jan C. > > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] OUI-JA > > > > > > > >Beyond a doubt, Herb! lol Just like reading tea leaves or whispering to a > >cat. > > > >Jan G. > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: HMELENDY@aol.com > > > >That there oui-ja stuff sounds kinda-like the sorta thing could of got ya > >hung up in Salem, back in '92. > > > >Herb Melendy, IBSSG > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > >~~~~ > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > > >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > >This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > >A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > ~~~~ > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by > each individual submitter. > > The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: > Political discussion/ views > Religious and inspirational postings, > Politically "Hot" Topics > Advertising and chain letters > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > --- > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. > > Visit the Black Sheep Home page, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > BEST OF THE WEB-Bronze Award for 1998, > Gail's Genealogy Wonderland SITE of the YEAR (1998) > Proudly Hosted by Rootsweb, and a supporter of Rootsweb through "good will" and funds. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Thank you. I will Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> To: "Ava Fischer" <res0f1lp@verizon.net>; "BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L" <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > Well, Ava, Melungeon is classified as tri-racial (part European, part > Native American, part either North African or from the Turkish Plateau > known as Anatolia). They were first discovered in North American during > the VERY early English explorations into the interior. When discovered, > they spoke a very poor version of Elizabethan English, and claimed to be > "Portugee" which was Elizabethan English for "foreign", not Portuguese. > The Native Americans claimed no relationship, couldn't understand their > language, and their dwellings were often made of stone, and had unusual > shaped windows. It has been hypothesized that they were either from the > "lost colony of the English" or were put ashore from a Spanish ship of > exploration, and intermarried with the Native Americans. They weren't > truly black, their lips were thin, and they had a few unusual physical > characteristics (which many of us have even after 4 centuries or more). > For more info, you can either contact me directly, or type the word > "Melungeon" into any search engine, and come up with a number of > interesting sites. > > Mike > IBSSG > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ava Fischer <res0f1lp@verizon.net> > > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: 5/6/2002 6:43:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > What is Melugeons? > > Whitewolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> > > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:35 PM > > Subject: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > > > > > With the backgrounds you & Edrie furnished, Jan, I wouldn't be one bit > > > surprised if you discovered that the Hardin bunch was Melungeon...they > > sure > > > sound a lot like some of my ancestors (and, as I've said before, I have > > the > > > Melungeons on BOTH sides!). > > > > > > Mike > > > IBSSG > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Date: 5/6/2002 6:06:00 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > > > > > > > Edire, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like most of the "removals" > were > > > > done by 1833, and the land was pretty well handed out to settlers by > > 1835. > > > > > > > > You got me to thinking about my Hardin cousins. One of them married > Alex > > > > Shaw, the Irish immigrant whose property was next to the reservation. > > The > > > > Hardins, family of Sukie Hardin--Alex' wife, lived in Franklin Co. GA, > > > right > > > > on the border with SC. But, they weren't Cherokee, near as I can > tell, I > > > did > > > > some checking today. They later moved to TX, most because they wanted > > to, > > > > three because they were running from a murder conviction, but that's > > > another > > > > story. > > > > > > > > Jan G. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > > From: "Edrie Broughton" <etfoam@inreach.com> > > > > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:42:35 -0700 > > > > > > > > The rest of the Dorsey researchers and I have kicked that around. > David > > > > Dorsey we don't think was Indian or Melungeon but think that Mary > Martin > > > may > > > > very well have been. Sarah must have had a dark complexion to have > the > > > > Black Dutch explanation used for her at least to her children or > > > > grandchildren. The chart says that she was born of German parents and > > > > brought as a very young child. Her husband having been German, > probably > > > > with the appropriate accent may have helped the fiction. When asked > on > > > > Census reports however she said she was born in SC and parents born in > > NC. > > > > David and Mary Martin Dorsey came south out of Macon County, NC to > > > Pendleton > > > > district SC, then on to Habersham (later White Co.), GA. They must > have > > > > maintained ties in both NC and SC because their children bounced back > > and > > > > forth. All these areas were strongly Cherokee. Since the removals > > began > > > > when Mary and David were doing all this moving, I suspect they were > > > avoiding > > > > the Army. > > > > > > > > EdrieAnne IBSSG > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > > > --- > > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > > by > > > > each individual submitter. > > > > > > > > The Blacksheep Message boards are at: > > > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac > > > ksheep > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go > > > > to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== > > > > ~~~~ > > > > The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted > > by > > > each individual submitter. > > > > > > > > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/mia.html > > > > This is the POW/MIA Links and Database. > > > > A complete list by Service Branch of POW/MIA/KIAs in Vietnam is here. > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Shuler Michael > > > --- grinch42@mindspring.com > > > --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. 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visit this webaddress http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyrockca/mul1.htm to learn about some Melungeon theories! I find this very interesting - we have all the "Melungeon" Characteristics in my family - but I can't find any census type evidence listing anyone as anything but white. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ava Fischer" <res0f1lp@verizon.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > What is Melugeons? > Whitewolf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:35 PM > Subject: [BSChat] Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > With the backgrounds you & Edrie furnished, Jan, I wouldn't be one bit > > surprised if you discovered that the Hardin bunch was Melungeon...they > sure > > sound a lot like some of my ancestors (and, as I've said before, I have > the > > Melungeons on BOTH sides!). > > > > Mike > > IBSSG > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > > > To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: 5/6/2002 6:06:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > > > > > > > Edire, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like most of the "removals" were > > > done by 1833, and the land was pretty well handed out to settlers by > 1835. > > > > > > You got me to thinking about my Hardin cousins. One of them married Alex > > > Shaw, the Irish immigrant whose property was next to the reservation. > The > > > Hardins, family of Sukie Hardin--Alex' wife, lived in Franklin Co. GA, > > right > > > on the border with SC. But, they weren't Cherokee, near as I can tell, I > > did > > > some checking today. They later moved to TX, most because they wanted > to, > > > three because they were running from a murder conviction, but that's > > another > > > story. > > > > > > Jan G. > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: "Edrie Broughton" <etfoam@inreach.com> > > > Reply-To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Grandpa Lied > > > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:42:35 -0700 > > > > > > The rest of the Dorsey researchers and I have kicked that around. David > > > Dorsey we don't think was Indian or Melungeon but think that Mary Martin > > may > > > very well have been. Sarah must have had a dark complexion to have the > > > Black Dutch explanation used for her at least to her children or > > > grandchildren. The chart says that she was born of German parents and > > > brought as a very young child. Her husband having been German, probably > > > with the appropriate accent may have helped the fiction. When asked on > > > Census reports however she said she was born in SC and parents born in > NC. > > > David and Mary Martin Dorsey came south out of Macon County, NC to > > Pendleton > > > district SC, then on to Habersham (later White Co.), GA. They must have > > > maintained ties in both NC and SC because their children bounced back > and > > > forth. All these areas were strongly Cherokee. 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They were very popular when the big 'spiritualism' thing became so popular, but they still can open some doors that can be harmful. I don't believe it will send you to hell, nor that the devil will have you in his power....but I do know from personal experience that some really wierd things happened shortly after our kids got the board and started using it---I didn't really put it together until they got me to "play" it with them....then I found some very strange messages coming through... I could give a long list of things that happened and that came through the messages, but I'll just say it was an energy of some sort that I won't play with, and I won't let anyone bring one into my house....I don't fear the board itself---I just don't want what it can open the door to in my "space". On that track---those things (spirits) are there anyway, but I don't need them to be invited into my life or my home ever again. It was a period of some extreme experiences that were not good; and try as I may, I can't discount everything as "coincidence". I would never connect it with Scrabble other than it being in the board game section.... Doris....A Texan in Georgia..... Still shaking the family tree and dodging the nuts after 30+ years! IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "bobert" <bobert@i-1.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: [BSChat] FEAR OF OUIJA BOARD Hi Sheepers! A neighbor had a garage sale and there were some kids games in the mess of 'stuff', including a Ouija Board. A 20-something friend of the neighbor saw the 'board' and her reaction was as she had just seen the devil himself! She told us "don't touch it!" - "you will go to hell cause the devil will have you in his power." She said she knew she was right cause 'her minister had told her at church and preached about it'. Ouija Boards were popular in the 1920's and 30's, if I remember correctly. Parlor fun for most - sort of a precurser of Scrabble when it came to 'letters and words'. Shirley: bobert@i-1.net ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
Don....wonder of wonders, I've moved us to Chat... It's a good thing the Flockmaster doesn't have me as his Assistant....things would be a mess...anyway... What say you, if God eventually turns out to be a woman? Jan C. IBSSG -----Original Message----- From: Don Kelly <donkelly@grovenet.net> To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] FW: ROSIES >Guess I'll have to burn my jock so you ladies will talk to me on equal >ground. >I too am proud of all of you independent thinkers. >Don Kelly >IBSSG > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "jcurtis" <jcurtis@redrock.net> >To: <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 8:52 PM >Subject: Re: [BS-L] FW: ROSIES > > >> Adette - I'm really proud of American women...we've come a long way >since >> the 60's. I burned my bra & stopped wearing panty hose...my opinion >was: >> Men don't wear make-up, shave their legs, or wear something to keep >their >> bellies in, so why should I? It was like men could walk around >looking like >> *grunge* and women seemed to "primp." For who or what? >> >> Suppose we should take this to Chat, but I'm not in the mood...I'll >let Sue >> do it. I'm tired. She has more energy than I do....~oo~ >> >> Jan C. IBSSG >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Adette Watkins <1228jml@bright.net> >> To: BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com <BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [BS-L] FW: ROSIES >> >> >> >My daughter and I had a discussion about what caused "women's Lib" >and >> >changed my life .I said WW II . Women went to work in defense plants >> ,worked >> >hard and cared for a home & kids .Five years later a "stranger " >came home >> >and wanted to assume the role of "Wearing the pants'. It was hard >for a >> >women who was used to handling a Job,Kids ,and rationing ,,plumbing >and >> >other problems that Men had traditionally handled. >> >We found out we could wire a lamp ,change fuses , handle a clogged >sink ect >> >,ect ,ect,. There were a lot of divorces after the war. >> >A W >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== >> >--- >> > >> >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are >copyrighted by >> each individual submitter. >> >TENDER LAMB CORNER: If your Blacksheep is still living, or public >posting >> may cause trouble, send the information to our TLC Coordinator, Sue >Bates; >> BSBates@netease.net, Confidentiality maintained. >> > >> >============================== >> >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >> go to: >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== >> ~~~~ >> >> The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted >by each individual submitter. >> >> The Following topics are inappropriate on Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com: >> Political discussion/ views >> Religious and inspirational postings, >> Politically "Hot" Topics >> Advertising and chain letters >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/02 > > >==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== >--- > >The contents of the Blacksheep-L@rootsweb.com archives are copyrighted by each individual submitter. >The BlackSheep Rootsweb Links page has many Rootsweb based search engines,as well as links to the BlackSheep Message Boards. >http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/resources.html >--- >The Blacksheep Message boards are at: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.organizations.blac ksheep > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
bobert wrote: > > Hi, Sheepers! > > A friend sent me this one - just sharing. I don't know that I can > honestly agree with all of it 100%, because a lot of 'churchy' folk get > into some very tricky and even criminal situations. Just look at the > pedophile priests, the Jim Bakkers, and Jimmy Swaggarts. It's sort of > like does military school build character - questions like that. > --------- > I had a "drug" problem when I was a young person and teenager. > > I was "drug" to church on Sunday morning - > I was "drug" to church on Sunday night > I was "drug" to church on Wednesday night - > I was "drug" to Sunday School every week - > I was "drug" to Vacation Bible School > I was "drug" to the family altar to read the bible and pray. > > I was also "drug" to the woodshed when I disobeyed my parents. > > Those "drugs" are still in my veins; > and they affect my behavior in every thing I do, say, and think. > They are stronger than cocaine, crack or heroin. > > If our children had this "drug" problem, America would certainly be a > better place. > ----------------- > Well - maybe in an ideal world. Shirley: bobert@i-1.net > I don't know about that. I went with a few ministers daughters and never met any wilder girls in my whole life. Not complaining I really enjoyed the experience. <GRIN> -- Wild Bill, North Pole, Alaska Life is what happens to you while you're making other plans.
Thanks Jan G. I read the same thing. Interesting isn't it? A.J. loved hot showers...most men do. His friend in Salt Lake, Matt, (A.J. went to his house when the hospital released him), helped A.J. put a new patch on before he went to bed. Charlotte & son Steve talked to A.J.during the day....the Sunday he died. A.J. was feeling fairly good...he had done some house cleaning in Matt's house, and another friend had taken him to the store to buy some things...new tooth paste, etc. A.J. didn't even know what the pain drug was...he told Charlotte it was Morphine.... Matt helped A.J. with the patch, and A.J. went to bed.....now he's history. It really worries me...the drugs that are prescribed, and I'm getting more & more spooked about them. I've taken Norvasc for high BP for 4 yrs. During my last little health thing, my blood pressure was tested every week, and it was all over the place....a high of 172/94, to 120/80....which told me the pills don't mean squat. Jan C. -----Original Message----- From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: A.J.'s death > >I looked around a little. I've only found one mention of breathing problems >and it was in reference to an overdose. The more interesting part has to do >with using the fentanyl patch (transdermal systemic) and it's sensitivity to >heat: > >"Heat can cause the fentanyl in the patch to be absorbed into your body >faster. This may increase the chance of serious side effects or an overdose. >While you are using this medicine, do not use a heating pad, a sunlamp, or a >heated water bed, and do not take sunbaths or long baths or *showers in hot >water*. Also, check with your health care professional if you get a fever." > >I'm wondering if A. J. took a hot shower that led to an overdose. I wonder >how many people may not be getting instructions on this patch and its heat >sensitivity. Some people are more sensitive to things like this drug than >others--maybe A. J. was one of them. > >Also, a different aspect--a study was done that shows that fentanyl use >leads to a "long term" hyper-sensitivity to pain, the more you use it. A >rebound affect. It's also a narcotic, an opiate. Gives a mild high, and >there's concern that those in the medical industry may start using it for >that reason. > >wow, what a swell drug! > >Jan G. > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Denise" <denise@wcnet.org> >Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com >To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: A.J.'s death >Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:10:48 -0400 > >I don't know anything about it. I sure am looking and making inquiries >now!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jcurtis > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:09 PM > Subject: [BSChat] Re: A.J.'s death > > > The pain medication (patch) that killed A.J. was FENTANYL. Charlotte >just > got the certified autopsy report. > > Has anyone heard of it, used it, know anything about it? > > (They also found a tiny cancer on his liver...so he would have faced that > down-the-road). > > Jan C. > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > >Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsu bscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the >subject, CHANGE the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > >==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== >Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Hi Sheepers! A neighbor had a garage sale and there were some kids games in the mess of 'stuff', including a Ouija Board. A 20-something friend of the neighbor saw the 'board' and her reaction was as she had just seen the devil himself! She told us "don't touch it!" - "you will go to hell cause the devil will have you in his power." She said she knew she was right cause 'her minister had told her at church and preached about it'. Ouija Boards were popular in the 1920's and 30's, if I remember correctly. Parlor fun for most - sort of a precurser of Scrabble when it came to 'letters and words'. Shirley: bobert@i-1.net
Hi Sheepers! A neighbor had a garage sale and there were some kids games in the mess of 'stuff', including a Ouija Board. A 20-something friend of the neighbor saw the 'board' and her reaction was as she had just seen the devil himself! She told us "don't touch it!" - "you will go to hell cause the devil will have you in his power." She said she knew she was right cause 'her minister had told her at church and preached about it'. Ouija Boards were popular in the 1920's and 30's, if I remember correctly. Parlor fun for most - sort of a precurser of Scrabble when it came to 'letters and words'. Shirley: bobert@i-1.net