State Sex Offender Databases <A HREF="http://www.gsiweb.net/">Alabama</A> <A HREF="http://www.dps.state.ak.us/Sorcr/search.asp">Alaska</A> <A HREF="http://www.sexoffenders.net/">California</A> <A HREF="http://www.state.ct.us/dps/Sor.htm">Connecticut</A> <A HREF="http://www.state.de.us/dsp/sexoff/">Delaware</A> <A HREF="http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/index.asp?/Sexual_Predators/index.asp">Florida</A> <A HREF="http://www.ganet.org/gbi/disclaim.html">Georgia</A> <A HREF="http://www.ai.org/cji/html/sexoffender.html">Indiana</A> <A HREF="http://www.ink.org/public/kbi/kbisexpage.html">Kansas</A> <A HREF="http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/">Michigan</A> <A HREF="http://sbi.jus.state.nc.us/sor/MainText.htm">North Carolina</A> <A HREF="http://www.scattorneygeneral.com/public/registry.html">South Carolina</A> <A HREF="http://216.140.183.67/so_search.cfm">Texas</A> <A HREF="http://www.cr.ex.state.ut.us/soreg/home.htm?">Utah</A> <A HREF="http://sex-offender.vsp.state.va.us/cool-ICE/">Virginia</A> <A HREF="http://www.wvstatepolice.com/sexoff/">West Virginia</A> Related Resources <A HREF="http://www.wolfenet.com/~dhillis/sexoffen4.htm">Sex Offender Data Online</A> by Brad Hillis <A HREF="http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cj/cjl10399.htm">Sex Offender Registries Hit the Web</A> Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)
ResearchWire Megan's Law By Genie Tyburski > <A HREF="mailto:tyburski@virtualchase.com">Genie Tyburski</A> is the Web Manager of <A HREF="http://www.virtualchase.com/">The Virtual Chase: A Research Site for > Legal Professionals</A>. > The Web’s impact on information occasionally sparks controversy. Privacy > advocates, for example, challenge existing public records laws that fail to > address, or clearly allow, making personal data available via Web sites. > More recently, Web access to information about sexual offenders incites > debate.In Oregon, several anonymous sex offenders and their families seek > to pull the plug on a State Police Web site that intends to provide names, > photographs, and other information about approximately 8,500 registered sex > offenders in Oregon. While the site has the backing of the state > legislature, the police voluntarily postponed its publication pending a > court’s ruling.In Tennessee, legislation enacted during 1997 mandated > posting information from sex offender registries on the State's official > home page. Later, the Middle District of Tennessee ruled "that the > notification provisions of the Tennessee Sex Offender Registration Act > violates the due process rights of the offender." Consequently, Tennessee > no longer provides access to the registry via the Internet.In Texas, a law > that took effect a few weeks ago permits access to information about > juvenile sex offenders. Already, a search of the <A HREF="http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/">Texas Department of > Public Safety</A> Sex Offender Database found names, addresses, dates of birth, > and even shoe sizes for several registered juvenile sex > offenders.Currently, 12 states -- Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, > Georgia, Kansas, Michigan, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and > Virginia -- offer sex offender databases from Web sites hosted by official > state servers. Alabama, California (presently offline), Indiana, and West > Virginia provide such access through databases housed on other Web sites. > Moreover, various law enforcement agencies as well as private citizens > publish county or community listings. Most, if not all, are freely > available regardless of the residence of the individual searching for > information.Researchers will find no uniformity amongst sex offender > databases. Some, like those for Alaska, Connecticut, and Florida, provide > photographs as well as physical descriptions, dates of birth, and details > concerning the offense. Virginia provides both home and work addresses > while Indiana offers only the city of residence.Most of the databases > permit zip code or name queries. Kansas allows searching by partial zip > codes while Alaska and Delaware provide for street name or partial address > queries and Indiana permits searching by social security > number.Non-statewide listings range from offering photographs, physical > descriptions and last known addresses to providing only the names of > registered sex offenders. The Cowlitz County Sheriff's Office in Kelso, > Washington, for example, further flags photographs of registered sex > offenders with "wanted" or "incarcerated" status.To find a listing of > offenders in a community for a state not offering Web access to its > registry, first locate the county sheriff's or local police department's > Web site. Discover these local law enforcement Web pages via their > respective county or municipality Web sites. Find county or municipality > sites with resources like <A HREF="http://www.piperinfo.com/state/states.html">State and Local Government on the Net</A>.Or conduct > a search combining terms like the name of the community with "sex > offender," "megan's law," "community notification," or "offender registry." > For example, the query -- yuma sex offenders -- at Google finds a site > that appears to be maintained by the <A HREF="http://www.primenet.com/~coyypd/sex3.html">Yuma, Arizona Police Department</A>. > http://www.llrx.com/columns/megan.htm Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)
In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:49:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > Jack, you might want to check again on that. "Megan's Law" (federal) was > passed about 5 or so years ago to make that information available, > especially on the internet, where it's easy to reach. > The Flaw in Megan's Law is that it says that "law enforcement officials will make information available" NOT that they have to make it READILY available. Most jurisdictions take the vioew that if you come in to the station and ask about a particular PERSON, then they will say yes or no. That isn't the INTENT of the law, but it is how it is interpreted by th police departments, who were forced to do this, but not funded to do it. Some "civil rights" groups are trying (sometimes successfully) to block puvblishing of the whole list, it was PULLED from the internet in California, which is the State where Megan was abducted. (Where were these lawyers when the victim's rights were violated?) Check on the internet for "Megan's Law" and see what is happening nationally. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)
Transfer all of my funds OUT? Hmmmmm. I'm pretty good at that all my myself. Sharon IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScismGenie@aol.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Nigerian weirdos > In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:46:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > Robinosborne90@cs.com writes: > > > > > Is that the one the FBI has been investigating? Apparently, some people > > > have taken the bait. Hope springs eternal? We human beans are terrific > > at > > > fooling ourselves. > > > > > Yep you add these guys to your bank account "so they can transfer the funds > in" , and WOW all your funds transfer OUT. > > Amazing isn't it? > > Jeff > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) > ~~ > Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site > Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site > manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: > B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n > d i c o t t, > S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. > Nv.) > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:46:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Robinosborne90@cs.com writes: > > Is that the one the FBI has been investigating? Apparently, some people > > have taken the bait. Hope springs eternal? We human beans are terrific > at > > fooling ourselves. > > Yep you add these guys to your bank account "so they can transfer the funds in" , and WOW all your funds transfer OUT. Amazing isn't it? Jeff Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)
Hi Mike No problem, and I do know what you mean. But, rape doesn't always happen with a male body part. That's why castration (surgical or chemical) doesn't help. You never know what new idea they'll want to try. I don't know how old a man has to be before he's not considered a threat anymore, or what disability there would have to be. I don't want to support the perverts in a jail or hospital either, lobotomized or not. But, unless they kill someone, our laws don't presently allow us to kill them. So--what to do? They get out in 5-15 years as it stands. Sometimes less. And if we don't know who they are and where they are, they keep doing what they've done. Ja ng. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Shuler Michael" <grinch42@mindspring.com> Reply-To: grinch42@mindspring.com To: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [BSChat] Megan's Law Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:42:58 -0500 Jan, while I certainly see the point you're making (and have no disagreement with it), I'm going to stick my opinion in just as something to chew on... There is not SATISFACTORY cure for pedophiles, since we're talking orientation modification, and the only way I can think of to affect that would be a partial lobotomy. Which, of course, would render the offender incapable of endangering mankind, but would also relegate the individual to be a ward of the state for the remainder of their lives. I don't know about Ms Garland, but I certainly wouldn't wish to support that slime forever! Since I speak from the prospective of someone who got their psychological training in the ministry, I'm undoubtedly slanted toward that point of view, but I would think that as they age the male molesters in particular would prove to be less of a threat due to physical limitations due to their longevity. This does not mean that I think they should wander the streets with other people to whom they might be a danger, I just have to believe (maybe because I can't look on humans as inherently evil) that at some time in their dotage they would be rendered physically incapable of doing harm. Child molestation is certainly a concern for me, as well as anyone else, since I have 8 grandchildren, and will soon have ggrandchildren, in addition. You needn't respond to this if you don't wish...I just feel the need to vent sometimes ;-). Mike IBSSG > [Original Message] > From: J. Garland <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 5/14/2002 4:09:18 PM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] Megan's Law > > > > Jeff, I know that all states have not been as cooperative as the law > intended. But some have and it's worth looking into on the net to see if > it's there first. If not, then I guess one would have to got to the > authorities for a list and locations. > > As a side note, in CA, when a home sells, there are required disclosures > about the presence of known child molesters. > > At places on line you can give your zip code and a search is done to tell > you the number of convicted offenders are living in that zip code. But it > doesn't give names. > > There was a committee that pushed through Megan's Law. I would hope that > those dedicated people would be willing to continue that organization as a > non-profit agency, acquiring and posting on the net the names and locations > of convicted child molesters. I wonder if they have a website or if the > group still exists in some capacity. > > Since this perversion is not curable, I don't see how the public can be > protected unless they either keep the convicts in prison for life or tell us > who they are so we can be aware of who our neighbors are. If this makes life > difficult for the molesters, so be it. It's the choice they made when they > started hurting kids. I'm not in favor of doing doing personal harm to the > perverts. Just keeping the kids away from them and making sure the kids know > who they need to avoid and which homes and cars to never go into. > > Jan g. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: ScismGenie@aol.com > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BSChat] Megan's Law > Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:09:12 EDT > > In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:49:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > > > > Jack, you might want to check again on that. "Megan's Law" (federal) was > > passed about 5 or so years ago to make that information available, > > especially on the internet, where it's easy to reach. > > > > The Flaw in Megan's Law is that it says that "law enforcement officials will > make information available" NOT that they have to make it READILY > available. > Most jurisdictions take the vioew that if you come in to the station and ask > about a particular PERSON, then they will say yes or no. That isn't the > INTENT of the law, but it is how it is interpreted by th police departments, > who were forced to do this, but not funded to do it. > > Some "civil rights" groups are trying (sometimes successfully) to block > puvblishing of the whole list, it was PULLED from the internet in > California, > which is the State where Megan was abducted. (Where were these lawyers when > the victim's rights were violated?) > > Check on the internet for "Megan's Law" and see what is happening > nationally. > > > Jeffery G. 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I wonder why it is that people don't think I know what I am talking about ? Before I even sent that first message where I said our Oklahoma City police would only tell you about a sex offender if you asked by name I had already checked it out through the OKC police department. As I use to tell folks in prison, If I tell you a chicken dips snuff, check under his wing to find his can. Being human I am prone to mistakes, but if I make a mistake I will readily admit it. I ain't mad at anyone, just pointing out that unlike some posters I have seen on some lists I do not just jot off an item off the top of my head. I at least give it some thought and like to think I know what I am talking about. Jack Childers in OKC
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<<BTW, on a personal level, do you enjoy being called a liar? Ostracized and ridiculed by your own family? This is no fun, I don't recommend placing yourself in that position, ever.>> No one enjoys being called a liar, Aleta. But I come from a family of independent thinkers and if anyone of us know we are speaking the truth, being called a liar wouldn't stop us. Especially as adults. We don't fear being ostracized or shunned or ridiculed because it doesn't happen, no matter what our differences. Nor is anyone called a liar. If that is truly the case in your family, then I truly feel sorry for you. And even more sorry that the same family that ostracizes and ridicules those who speak the truth still accept and, evidently, respect the pervert. Looks to me like there's some more overall, big, enveloping problems going on. It's a pitiful situation that you've described. I hope the Lord does indeed work it out. Jan g. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
wow, that's great, Jeff! Sure looks like there's some states missing, doesn't it. I wonder how long it will be before they get in touch with the reality of the problem. Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: ScismGenie@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] Database Links Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:31:47 EDT State Sex Offender Databases <A HREF="http://www.gsiweb.net/">Alabama</A> <A HREF="http://www.dps.state.ak.us/Sorcr/search.asp">Alaska</A> <A HREF="http://www.sexoffenders.net/">California</A> <A HREF="http://www.state.ct.us/dps/Sor.htm">Connecticut</A> <A HREF="http://www.state.de.us/dsp/sexoff/">Delaware</A> <A HREF="http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/index.asp?/Sexual_Predators/index.asp">Florida</A> <A HREF="http://www.ganet.org/gbi/disclaim.html">Georgia</A> <A HREF="http://www.ai.org/cji/html/sexoffender.html">Indiana</A> <A HREF="http://www.ink.org/public/kbi/kbisexpage.html">Kansas</A> <A HREF="http://www.mipsor.state.mi.us/">Michigan</A> <A HREF="http://sbi.jus.state.nc.us/sor/MainText.htm">North Carolina</A> <A HREF="http://www.scattorneygeneral.com/public/registry.html">South Carolina</A> <A HREF="http://216.140.183.67/so_search.cfm">Texas</A> <A HREF="http://www.cr.ex.state.ut.us/soreg/home.htm?">Utah</A> <A HREF="http://sex-offender.vsp.state.va.us/cool-ICE/">Virginia</A> <A HREF="http://www.wvstatepolice.com/sexoff/">West Virginia</A> Related Resources <A HREF="http://www.wolfenet.com/~dhillis/sexoffen4.htm">Sex Offender Data Online</A> by Brad Hillis <A HREF="http://www.ncsl.org/programs/cj/cjl10399.htm">Sex Offender Registries Hit the Web</A> Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.) ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Some of the duets are pretty, like Clint Black and his wife. Am I the only one that thinks Clint resembles Roy Rogers? Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: British movies Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:30:15 +0100 >I just don't like the country music that leaves you depressed! Terri< I know the sort you mean, wife left him dog died kinda stuff! I like the sloppy slushy sentimental stuff, stuff for lovers! Mellie IBSSG How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ListAdmin: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com BAGNALL-L@rootsweb.com BATE-L@rootsweb.com BENTON-ENG-L@rootsweb.com BLACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com FEREDAY-L@rootsweb.com HOLLOWOOD-L@rootsweb.com HOWDLE-L@rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. No attachments sent without prior notification Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
LOL Very funny Mel! Why didn't I see that punch line coming???? Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Mellie" <Mel@i12.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: British movies Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:33:31 +0100 >ever since Kenny Rogers came along in the 70's, but even "(You picked a fine time to leave me,)Lucille" was a *great* drinking song. The whole bar could sing along! <G> (It's really hard NOT to sing along with that one, for some reason. lol)< jan gotta share this with ya, someone tried to pinch my wheel nuts once but got disturbed, anyway i was driving along and my wheel came loose, and fell off! at the Pub that night everyone sang "you picked a fine time to leave me LOOSE WHEEL! thought you might all like a laugh at that one! Mellie IBSSG How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ListAdmin: AUS-NSW-SURNAMES-L@rootsweb.com BAGNALL-L@rootsweb.com BATE-L@rootsweb.com BENTON-ENG-L@rootsweb.com BLACKHAM-L@rootsweb.com FEREDAY-L@rootsweb.com HOLLOWOOD-L@rootsweb.com HOWDLE-L@rootsweb.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. No attachments sent without prior notification Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/02 ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Jack, I don't doubt you. But I thought you might not have checked in the past 5 years or so. If I offended, I'm sorry, it wasn't meant to. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Megan's Law Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:41:29 -0500 I wonder why it is that people don't think I know what I am talking about ? Before I even sent that first message where I said our Oklahoma City police would only tell you about a sex offender if you asked by name I had already checked it out through the OKC police department. As I use to tell folks in prison, If I tell you a chicken dips snuff, check under his wing to find his can. Being human I am prone to mistakes, but if I make a mistake I will readily admit it. I ain't mad at anyone, just pointing out that unlike some posters I have seen on some lists I do not just jot off an item off the top of my head. I at least give it some thought and like to think I know what I am talking about. Jack Childers in OKC _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Terri, lol yes I know, hey we better stop the CW bashing. They get sensitive here. I've done enough damage in the past... <g> Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: HBalc27124@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] Re: Cw music Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:49:29 EDT I know, we were at a party and they had Karaoke. My youngest was 19 at the time and sang, "I've Got Friends in Low Places" and the entire party joined in. This was the same kid who got buzzed at my anniversary party and they had karaoke. He sang "Born to be Wild" Everyone came up and said, "...but he's so QUIET!" I just hate the ones when someone dies and the other one talks about mommy/daddy being in heaven and the truck gets repo'd. If you play a CW song backwards, the guy gets his truck back, his woman comes back, his dog comes back to life and he joins AA! Terri ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Well, I guess we can each decide whether what you, as a group, have done to make people aware of that 'man' is enough or not. Saying that "the Lord will handle it" refers to punishment in the future. That doesn't cover events in the here or now, or things that have happened in the past 30 years. You don't know if he visits playgrounds or hangs around schools. Is he active in kids activities in the church? Is he treated there as someone who is trusted? What is the fear factor that you mentioned? His daughters in fear of him? Why? Aren't they adults now? How are they protecting their daughters? Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: AletaM@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] RE: [BS-L] WOW... I MISSED you guys!!! Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:00:01 EDT In a message dated 5/13/02 8:26:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > My only concern is for the others he may > still be hurting. The problem is that the only proof is in the memories of those involved. Most want nothing to do with this now that they are out of it. Some will not admit that it happened. If he acted the same with his daughters, it is hearsay on my part. As I said, the Lord will take care of it. I think the neighbor hood was put on alert when the flood of nieces and nephews, the boys couldn't go without their sisters, stopped having overnight visits, which are the custom in my Mom's family. Yes, when we could we told the girls in the neighborhood to not be alone with him, they would look at us strangely, then nod and tell us, "OK." Back then, in this place, adults word was law and the children had to develop their own defense until it was feasible to loosen it. The children here were very good at that. We all have the same belief that the Lord will take care of it. It was our responsibility to try to keep it from happening more, which we did. However nothing in that matter is 100%. This is why our attitude is what it is. We know better, we did actively do our best to teach the younger children that this was not a good thing. Did we paint him into a corner? To some extent, yes. Since he has lived in the same home for over 44 years the neighbors are probably very aware of what he is. I remember my Aunt, his wife who just died, commenting about the children not wanting to play in their yard when he was at home. This is a very strong indication that word got around. When there are 6 small children in a house, half girls, usually there are children in and out in a stream, not so in their home. Those who came by were mostly boys, he didn't bother them. In this neighbor hood it was safer for them to play in the park, two blocks away, than in my Uncle's yard. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Jeff, I know that all states have not been as cooperative as the law intended. But some have and it's worth looking into on the net to see if it's there first. If not, then I guess one would have to got to the authorities for a list and locations. As a side note, in CA, when a home sells, there are required disclosures about the presence of known child molesters. At places on line you can give your zip code and a search is done to tell you the number of convicted offenders are living in that zip code. But it doesn't give names. There was a committee that pushed through Megan's Law. I would hope that those dedicated people would be willing to continue that organization as a non-profit agency, acquiring and posting on the net the names and locations of convicted child molesters. I wonder if they have a website or if the group still exists in some capacity. Since this perversion is not curable, I don't see how the public can be protected unless they either keep the convicts in prison for life or tell us who they are so we can be aware of who our neighbors are. If this makes life difficult for the molesters, so be it. It's the choice they made when they started hurting kids. I'm not in favor of doing doing personal harm to the perverts. Just keeping the kids away from them and making sure the kids know who they need to avoid and which homes and cars to never go into. Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: ScismGenie@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BSChat] Megan's Law Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:09:12 EDT In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:49:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, zippywebgenie@hotmail.com writes: > Jack, you might want to check again on that. "Megan's Law" (federal) was > passed about 5 or so years ago to make that information available, > especially on the internet, where it's easy to reach. > The Flaw in Megan's Law is that it says that "law enforcement officials will make information available" NOT that they have to make it READILY available. Most jurisdictions take the vioew that if you come in to the station and ask about a particular PERSON, then they will say yes or no. That isn't the INTENT of the law, but it is how it is interpreted by th police departments, who were forced to do this, but not funded to do it. Some "civil rights" groups are trying (sometimes successfully) to block puvblishing of the whole list, it was PULLED from the internet in California, which is the State where Megan was abducted. (Where were these lawyers when the victim's rights were violated?) Check on the internet for "Megan's Law" and see what is happening nationally. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.) ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
In a message dated 5/14/02 12:53:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, workman@dreamscape.com writes: > Is that the one the FBI has been investigating? Apparently, some people > have taken the bait. Hope springs eternal? We human beans are terrific at > fooling ourselves. > Yes, it is and you should try to report it to their FBI Fraud Web site. They need to know who they are contacting even if you aren't falling for the trap. They got me last year for $1800.00 it was in Lome, Togo W. Africa. Bad deal. Robin
In a message dated 5/14/02 7:39:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ginlu@charter.net writes: > When I worked with this in Texas, I was appalled by how long it can go on > without a mention ... I think most children tell someone, but most people > didn't chose to respond appropriately. > Me too, Doris. So true, as a victim and survivor of sexual abuse, I totally agree, sometimes people have a hard time believing it. Stigma again, And generations of keeping the family secrets........... Mine is generational incest, my mother knew her Uncle molested her sister, so they sent her away. She now believes her mother was also a victim of incest, and we of course found intermarriage all over her side of the family. The sister that moved away never came back or keep in touch with them. She is dead now. I don't blame her. He did it to her till she got her period. How tragic!!!!!! She had a good life though, and became an RN. Married well and had children. People that speak out like you help all of us. Thank You for all you have helped along the way. If one child is saved, it can stop it at least for them. Just my $2.00(inflation) worth, Robin TLC IBSSG
Terri and Sheepers, Is that the one the FBI has been investigating? Apparently, some people have taken the bait. Hope springs eternal? We human beans are terrific at fooling ourselves. Sharon IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: <HBalc27124@aol.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Nigerian weirdos > Ah, the Nigerians are at it again! I have been offered 20% and 35% by > different Ministers trying to unload money! Always a foreign engineer with > an American sounding name who died in a car accident! > Hmmm---20% or 35% which one would I be stupid enough to try for? > Don't they ever give up? > Terri > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >
Ah, the Nigerians are at it again! I have been offered 20% and 35% by different Ministers trying to unload money! Always a foreign engineer with an American sounding name who died in a car accident! Hmmm---20% or 35% which one would I be stupid enough to try for? Don't they ever give up? Terri