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Smart girl Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

As children mature they see their horizons expanding, which also means more responsibility, and sometimes this new found "freedom' and responsibility scares them, so they regress a little. Kind of a putting on the brakes to slow down something that is coming at them too fast. I think it is normal for children to regress from time to time. Heck, I have seen adults regress under times of stress. The curling up in a little ball and wanting the world go away when you experience a traumatic experience, that kind of thing. I think I was 27 years old before I quit wanting someone else to take over the reins and drive for awhile. Jack Childers in OKC

It's a mens prison now. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: <ScismGenie@aol.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Megan's Law > They grow HUGE apples in Tehachapi. > > They also had a woman's Prison there. > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) > ~~ > Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site > Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site > manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: > B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n > d i c o t t, > S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. > Nv.) > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 5/16/2002 7:18:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, telecomgirl911@hotmail.com writes: > This is definitely rivalry, my 11 year old, who will be 12 in June has > regressed to watching Rugrats and Blues Clues, he plays with ALL his little > brother's toys. Little one insists he is the older brother, wants to wear > brother's and Daddy's shoes, get his hair cut like his big brother, it is > they are both searching for their identities in the other! > Time for some guidance, perhaps some additional attention to the older one so he/she doesn't lose their place and pace. Any regression is a warning sign. Some may be only social issues, like perhaps the older child feels insecure and isn't "challenged" to play with more sophisyicated toys/games/activities? Or perhaps the child needs a slightly older friend, who can "pull them" along? Your younger child will feel the need to "meet" his older sibling's level, and that level seesm to be coming down, as you noted. The pair need a higher challenge. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

In a message dated 5/16/2002 7:18:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, telecomgirl911@hotmail.com writes: > This is definitely rivalry, my 11 year old, who will be 12 in June has > regressed to watching Rugrats and Blues Clues, he plays with ALL his little > brother's toys. Little one insists he is the older brother, wants to wear > brother's and Daddy's shoes, get his hair cut like his big brother, it is > they are both searching for their identities in the other! > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

whoa, there's a problem there! You need some outside help, or an opinion at least, in regards to the older one. That kind of regression is a serious sign that something's wrong. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Telecom Girl" <telecomgirl911@hotmail.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:20:16 -0500 This is definitely rivalry, my 11 year old, who will be 12 in June has regressed to watching Rugrats and Blues Clues, he plays with ALL his little brother's toys. Little one insists he is the older brother, wants to wear brother's and Daddy's shoes, get his hair cut like his big brother, it is they are both searching for their identities in the other! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

This is definitely rivalry, my 11 year old, who will be 12 in June has regressed to watching Rugrats and Blues Clues, he plays with ALL his little brother's toys. Little one insists he is the older brother, wants to wear brother's and Daddy's shoes, get his hair cut like his big brother, it is they are both searching for their identities in the other! ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Garland" <zippywebgenie@hotmail.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > > Are you sure it's rivalry? Maybe they just don't have enough in common. > That's quite an age gap, and difference in development. Three year olds have > ways of getting attention that drive older kids nuts! And your older one is > at an age when he doesn't want his stuff messed with, wants his own private, > untampered-with place. They can't play the same games, or enjoy the same > shows on TV or the same friends. And the three year old will want to tag > along everywhere. (My older brother is 8 years older than me. I was the tag > along.) > > jan G > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Telecom Girl" <telecomgirl911@hotmail.com> > Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:24:46 -0500 > > > I have an 11 year old who was the only child for 8 years - he was thrilled > to have a younger brother come along! Now that his brother is 3, and more > independent, tempers are flaring! I thought sibling rivalry wouldn't be so > bad with the big age gap in the kids, but I was wrong! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> > To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > > > > I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said > she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child > because it allowed me to spoil her !!! > > > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the > subject, CHANGE the subject. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have an 11 year old who was the only child for 8 years - he was thrilled to have a younger brother come along! Now that his brother is 3, and more independent, tempers are flaring! I thought sibling rivalry wouldn't be so bad with the big age gap in the kids, but I was wrong! ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Yes, but Kade is an Earth Mother incarnate ! She has very strong maternal instincts, always taking care of someone or some animal. When her baby brother was alive she thought that was HER baby and was actually very good at taking care of him. When he died she was very upset, and wanted me to give her another baby to take care of. Now all of a sudden she wants to be an only child ! What's this, the onset of hormonal changes addling her mind !?! Jack Childers in OKC

I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! Jack Childers in OKC

The only thing good about sextuplets is that you might get a free house and van and college ed for the kiddies, like that couple in Iowa. Personally, I can't see it. Terri

I have no idea! Terri

Are you sure it's rivalry? Maybe they just don't have enough in common. That's quite an age gap, and difference in development. Three year olds have ways of getting attention that drive older kids nuts! And your older one is at an age when he doesn't want his stuff messed with, wants his own private, untampered-with place. They can't play the same games, or enjoy the same shows on TV or the same friends. And the three year old will want to tag along everywhere. (My older brother is 8 years older than me. I was the tag along.) jan G ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Telecom Girl" <telecomgirl911@hotmail.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:24:46 -0500 I have an 11 year old who was the only child for 8 years - he was thrilled to have a younger brother come along! Now that his brother is 3, and more independent, tempers are flaring! I thought sibling rivalry wouldn't be so bad with the big age gap in the kids, but I was wrong! ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

Jack, every little kid, 3 or 4 years old, thinks they want a new sibling. And then the baby is born and the jealousy sets in by the time the baby is 6 months old, if not sooner. It would have happened to Kade too. Ja ng. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:03:03 -0500 Yes, but Kade is an Earth Mother incarnate ! She has very strong maternal instincts, always taking care of someone or some animal. When her baby brother was alive she thought that was HER baby and was actually very good at taking care of him. When he died she was very upset, and wanted me to give her another baby to take care of. Now all of a sudden she wants to be an only child ! What's this, the onset of hormonal changes addling her mind !?! Jack Childers in OKC ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Blacksheep-Chat-L@rootsweb.com is a wide spectrum Chat List, Topics allowed are almost anything.restrictions are: Political discussion, religious prosylitizing, and aggressive behavior, any of these topics will result in restricted priveleges. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Yes, they did. But two of them have some real challenges ahead in their lives, problems related to premature births. I'm glad they got some help--a big enough home, etc. But mom and dad are going to need to spend some extra time with those two. Makes it tough to have as much time as you'd like with the rest. Not enough time in the day. But, I don't doubt there's plenty of love to go round and I'm sure they'll know it. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: HBalc27124@aol.com Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:06:31 EDT The only thing good about sextuplets is that you might get a free house and van and college ed for the kiddies, like that couple in Iowa. Personally, I can't see it. Terri ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Yup, I don't doubt it a bit! It would be real tough on her, even one sib. Jan g. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 07:09:30 -0500 I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! Jack Childers in OKC ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

My nearest chronological brother is five years older than me. It took him about 20 years to get over losing his spot as "baby" in the family. lol Used to steal my teddy bear. And my "space radio". Oh, the trauma! lol We're good friends now, btw. Jan G. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Telecom Girl" <telecomgirl911@hotmail.com> Reply-To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:24:46 -0500 I have an 11 year old who was the only child for 8 years - he was thrilled to have a younger brother come along! Now that his brother is 3, and more independent, tempers are flaring! I thought sibling rivalry wouldn't be so bad with the big age gap in the kids, but I was wrong! ----- Original Message ----- From: "JACK CHILDERS" <jaxone1234@msn.com> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] SEXTUPLETS > I mentioned to Kade that I'd of liked to have had sextuplets and she said she didn't want any part of it ! She said she liked being any only child because it allowed me to spoil her !!! > > Jack Childers in OKC > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

In a message dated 5/15/2002 7:45:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jaxone1234@msn.com writes: > I'm watching a news program about sextuplets. I just love it. I wish I had > of had 6 children all at once. Twice over !! Naw, you don't, even TWINS are too much work. Silly off the wall question, I took Elizabeth to have blood tests done last week, checking for Osteoporosis and Osteopnia, which they have diagnosed, and they have decided she needs a screen for Vitamin D, I got a letter from Loma Linda Hospital to day that says they have forwarded her blood to the Mayo Clinic. (Why would a top hospital like Loma Linda suddenly send her blood two thousand miles?) (any Blood experts out there?) Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)

They grow HUGE apples in Tehachapi. They also had a woman's Prison there. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com) ~~ Coordinator, C h u r c h i l l Nevada U S G e n W e b Site Co-Coordinator, Inmontgo-L, Montgomery County, Indiana, U S G e n W e b Site manager of the following Rootsweb Lists: B l a c k s h e e p, L a n d e s, L a n d i s, P e f f l e y, S c i s m, E n d i c o t t, S h i p w r e c k, Inmontgo (Mont. Co. Indiana), NVChurch (Churchill Co. Nv.)