In a message dated 8/17/02 2:12:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Cats were once worshipped as gods and for some reason have never forgotten > it. > Cal, call a cat an it tells you to take a number. I tell mine that I always have # 1. LOL I love your taglines. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Aleta sez "So, lets wipe our feet on the welcome mat and go chat or exchange data. Tell a joke or two, more funny stories about our ancestors, fact or legend. Let's have a good time at Jeff's house. Let's make it so he wants us to return." E T sez Amen, Amen!

You are back, I was beginning to worry, Just delete most of mine as I am sure that they were just cute sayings for you and you do need to get unplugged it seems like. Just give me a holler when you are ready but I am so glad to hear that you are okay! really missed you Cousin Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Shuler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] I'M BACK! > For any of you who may have sent me an email in the last week or so, please > be aware that my CPU had it's memory completely scrubbed by a so-called tech > support specialist (and they had the nerve to charge me $30 for loosing over > 40 years of research), and I'm still in the process of getting everything > back. I can't get my DSL back, because the "idiot" fried my DSL modem. I > just got my email back today (all that was in there when they scrubbed the > hard drive is gone), and had 700 msgs in front of me. After deleting the > "spam", I still have 543 to look at. I will get there, but if I owe anyone > a response, be aware that it may take me a while. > > Mike, IBSSG > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

When Black Sheep started, it was plain to all who were part of it, that this was Jeff's house, online. Then it went to Roots Web. It was still Jeff's house, only larger. Then another dimension was added with the Chat, still Jeff's house. Right from the word "go" there were rules. Just as when you visit a neighbor or relative, they have rules for their house. When a person visits a house belonging to or occupied by a friend, relative or acquaintance, they behave according to the rules, or they are invited to leave. I must say, this is the way I was raised. I guess not all are, however going to school is much the same. Sure, there is room for jokes and laughter, within the rules. These rules are much the same as traffic laws. Many are common courtesy, some have to get nit-picking, for those who need them spelled out. Same when you visit. I for one am happy to be a guest in Jeff's house, online. There has been much good come from it. Many have new friendships. Many have new cousins. Some close, some distant. Some we knew before we went online and met in Jeff's house, many we met for the first time in Jeff's house. That I know of the youngest in the Black Sheep is about 3 or 4, yes, Peter, however he doesn't say much, yet. I can't wait until he does. I imagine he will show up in Chat first, just to get his feet wet. I can't see him not knowing how to be polite in his contact with others, whether face to face, or through letters, of some kind or another. The rest are adults, I know a few and there are many fine people here. There are also some fine people who don't think before they "speak." I wonder if any remember the story I told about my older sister and brother. They were arguing with each other, yelling so loud that they could not hear my Dad ask them to turn it down a bit. He asked several times, no response. Since they were literally head to head, he walked up to them and tapped their heads together, just hard enough to get their attention. They never stood head to head and yelled at each other again. They also listened to Dad, it was his house, when he spoke. They learned from their mistake, no, they didn't stop arguing, they stopped yelling so loud and started listening to what was going on around them as well. I know most of us feel this was unnecessary, I do too. However, it happened. Those who were the loudest and most persistent are gone. Jeff's house is once again a place where we can think and communicate. Do I feel bad? I feel terrible. It seems we have lost some friends through foolishness. I never wanted this to happen. I'm certain that Jeff didn't either. However to have a place to visit and communicate for so many people of such diverse backgrounds, we must have rules that all understand. Personally, I think there are some very good ones in place. So, lets wipe our feet on the welcome mat and go chat or exchange data. Tell a joke or two, more funny stories about our ancestors, fact or legend. Let's have a good time at Jeff's house. Let's make it so he wants us to return. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

L. Roy Mayes wrote.... >I just subscribed a few days ago, and it seems to be a madhouse. I guess I'll wait and see if any of it makes sense, but at this point it seems to be very confusing to an old 'feller'.< Hang in there, Lee. We've been undergoing some recent growing pains but they're getting back to normal here soon. Feel free to introduce yourself to the group and tell us about any genealogy you might be doing. :-) Best, SueB-TLC IBSSG List Co-Manager

IDIOTS IN SERVICE This week, all our office phones went dead and I had to contact the telephone repair people. They promised to be out between 8:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. When I asked if they could give me a smaller time window, the pleasant gentleman asked, "Would you like us to call you before we come?" I replied that I didn't see how he would be able to do that, since our phones weren't working. He also requested that we report future outages by email. (Does YOUR email work without a telephone line?) IDIOTS AT WORK I was signing the receipt for my credit card purchase when the clerk noticed I had never signed my name on the back of the credit card. She informed me that she couldn't complete the transaction unless the card was signed. When I asked why, she explained that it was necessary to compare the signature I had just signed on the receipt. So I signed the credit card in front of her. She carefully compared the signature to the one I had just signed on the receipt. As luck would have it, they matched. IDIOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I live in a semi-rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the local township administrative office to request the removal of the Deer Crossing sign on our road. The reason: Too many deer were being hit by cars and he didn't want them to cross there anymore. IDIOTS IN FOOD SERVICE My daughter went to a local Taco Bell and ordered a taco. She asked the person behind the counter for "minimal lettuce." He said he was sorry, but they only had iceberg. IDIOT SIGHTING #1 I was at the airport, checking in at the gate when an airport employee asked, "Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?" To which I replied, "If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?" He smiled knowingly and nodded, "That's why we ask!" IDIOT SIGHTING #2 The stop light on the corner buzzes when it's safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually challenged coworker of mine when she asked if I knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red. Appalled, she responded, "What on earth are blind people doing driving?" IDIOT SIGHTING #3 At a good-bye luncheon for an old and dear coworker who was leaving the company due to down-sizing. Our manager commented cheerfully, "This is fun. We should do this more often." Not a word was spoken. We all just looked at each other with that deer-in-the-headlights stare. IDIOT SIGHTING #4 I work with an individual who plugged her power strip back into itself and for the life of her couldn't understand why her system would not turn on. IDIOT SIGHTING #5 When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the driver's side door. As I watched from the passenger side, I instinctively tried the door handle and discovered that it was unlocked. "Hey", I announced to the technician, "it's open!" To which he replied, "I know -I already got that side." NOW, DON'T YOU FEEL A LITTLE SMARTER?!!! A cheerful heart is good medicine...

I think they consider "mainstreaming" to be instantaneous. She has been in classes that donot emphasize academic learning, but focus on daily self care. She climbed out of the swamp, and an education designed not to educate, but to let her just survive. (A really dedicated teacher helps). She was misdiagnosed, be causde of developmental delays, as being low IQ. VERY far from the truth. She just was delayed, but VERY intelligent. Now she is doing excellent in her academic work, but adjusting to things like Homework, and structured class rules is new to her. She is 7 weeks into teh second grade, and academically she is with or above her classmates. Behavior and attention are her problems. She loses her attention focus,and deviates to something "fun". Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

What is all this about? I just subscribed a few days ago, and it seems to be a madhouse. I guess I'll wait and see if any of it makes sense, but at this point it seems to be very confusing to an old 'feller'. Lee R.Mayes ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BSChat] Re: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-D Digest V02 #1112 Mellie, they are saying you are full of it. Full of what ? You have to use your imagination. LOL ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 8/17/2002 3:55:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jeff says: > > *I have just removed several people from the list. Several were "regular > posters".* > > It's too bad that it came to this,but Jeff bends over backwards for us. He > has to think of what is best for the group as a whole....."Jeff, you done > good". > > .....E T.....IBSSG..... Thanks, I wasn't an easy choice to make. I have to keep the list on-topic and as free from irritation as possible. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

Mellie, they are saying you are full of it. Full of what ? You have to use your imagination. LOL

Three cheers for you & your family, Jeff. I know from problems my daughter has had with schools with the 2 grandsons she is raising (8 & 9 years old) that have ADHD the parents that show up at school when needed do make a difference. My daughter tries to see things from both sides of the fence but she also can tell when they just don't want to be bothered & she won't stand for it. It is a darn shame that some people don't take the time to look at things from the other persons side of the fence. If they could just try to imagine how they would feel if they were like your little girl, it might help the situation, but they seem to be to selfish & snobbish. Darn twits. Good luck, Gail in La.

Cal, Some people think that you have to agree with them or you are a piece of slime. Unfortunately you found some of them here. Unfortunately, truth is not want they are interested in, it's forcing their particular view on the world. And unfortunately also, it is indicative of unhealthiness within them, not you. Your sense of humor helps us all lighten up, which all of us need. In that humor there is a lot of very special and very good insight, even when you sometimes miss the point. Pamela [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/16/02 10:45:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > In a message dated 8/16/02 9:17:17 AM, [email protected] writes: > > > > << A fascinating story and a good example of justice almost gone very > > wrong. > > > > Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG > > > > "Hang 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" >> > > > > Calvin: > > > > I'm glad you enjoyed the account on my G Grandaddy Fitzpatrick. I rather > > like your tag line! > > > > Sandi Carter, IBSSG > > Thank you. It is nice to have some positive feedback now and then. I've > gotten a bit of the other kind lately. > > CBL, IBSSG > > > > > A dog has an owner. A cat has a staff! > > Dogs believe they are human. Cats know they are gods. > > > > Cats were once worshipped as gods and for some reason have never forgotten > it. > > Cats and women do as they will. Men and dogs learn to adjust. > > Can't think of any other clean ones right now... C. > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Cal, Twas a guess re Oyvey....has heard it somewhere before...I was just hoping I got it right....or someone would have corrected me....<bg> Call Peg R NSW Australia [email protected] Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation leans on the doorbell.

Jeff says: *I have just removed several people from the list. Several were "regular posters".* It's too bad that it came to this,but Jeff bends over backwards for us. He has to think of what is best for the group as a whole....."Jeff, you done good". .....E T.....IBSSG.....

In a message dated 8/16/02 10:45:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > In a message dated 8/16/02 9:17:17 AM, [email protected] writes: > > << A fascinating story and a good example of justice almost gone very > wrong. > > Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG > > "Hang 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" >> > > Calvin: > > I'm glad you enjoyed the account on my G Grandaddy Fitzpatrick. I rather > like your tag line! > > Sandi Carter, IBSSG Thank you. It is nice to have some positive feedback now and then. I've gotten a bit of the other kind lately. CBL, IBSSG > > A dog has an owner. A cat has a staff! > Dogs believe they are human. Cats know they are gods. > Cats were once worshipped as gods and for some reason have never forgotten it. Cats and women do as they will. Men and dogs learn to adjust. Can't think of any other clean ones right now... C.

In a message dated 8/16/02 9:57:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > They discribe many "discipline" problems, but have written nothing down, > nor > called me at home, even when she was missing. > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > You are of course, writing this all down in great detail. With all pertinant names. When the chickens come home to roost on this issue you want to make sure everybody who has an egg coming gets one. }=) Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "Ain't I a stinker...?" -- B. Bunny

>Vous plein a merde Saying it in french doesn't mitigate the meaning. Je comprends votre rapport. < being rubbish at french I don't get this either! would someone like to explain? Mellie How Come My Coat Of Arms Has Buckles At The Back? ListAdmin: [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

In a message dated 8/16/2002 9:52:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Jeff, the people who let that happen to your little girl are heartless. How > would they feel if you treated their child like that, I know they wouldn't > like it one bit. it is so fortunate that something bad didn't happen to her > > when she was missing and for them not to notify you of it is inexcusable? > Oh > yes the harassment has really started. And they are supposed to be trained > educators, they couldn't educate a flea. If you treated your child like > that > they would want to call HRS. How old is your daughter? I do hope things > will > improve for you. Can she go back to her old school or is that not possible? > > Gail in La. She had spent a year in the wrong class. by the time that year was up, she had advanced so far ahead of her cllassmates, she couldn't be on a par with them. They moved her to "mainstream classes", she is 7. No they will not move her back. (They said she had a "perfect" day today, perhaps my anger yesterday has made them stop and think.) Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

Jeff, the people who let that happen to your little girl are heartless. How would they feel if you treated their child like that, I know they wouldn't like it one bit. it is so fortunate that something bad didn't happen to her when she was missing and for them not to notify you of it is inexcusable? Oh yes the harassment has really started. And they are supposed to be trained educators, they couldn't educate a flea. If you treated your child like that they would want to call HRS. How old is your daughter? I do hope things will improve for you. Can she go back to her old school or is that not possible? Gail in La.

Terri, I go back to Ohio every year or two. Always in the summer or fall never winter. I have gone back quite often in the last 5 years as my sister has had 2 cancer operations and a lot of other health problems. When she is gone I doubt if I will ever go back even though I have nieces & nephews there. They are younger than I am, they can come to see me. If my plans don't change I am moving back to Florida in September. Gail in La.