In one of the Iowa censuses, Someone was enumerated, including their menial labor job and then off in the margin it said 'idiot'. Another one it was in the comment section. The census takers were supposed to note anyone with a disability because they were looking to understand how many were most likely going to need gov. assistance. I've also seen 'blind', 'deaf', and 'dumb'; as well as 'crippled', 'halt' and 'bent'. When I worked on the 2000 census there were ethnic groups who did not want gov. interferance or help and didn't want to be perceived as needy so they didn't want co-operate. We learned to find the 'head' man or woman and explain how they were hurting themselves. If we got through to them, all of a sudden everyone was home and everyone answered the questions. Then there were the red-blooded Americans who don't think anyone should get assistance so they didn't want to be counted because that was co-operating with giving assistance. Unfortunately what that did is make the percentage of people needing assistance higher, not lower which would enable or qualify a district for more of certain types of assistance. I was a supervisor so I say a lot more of the anomalies than an individual enumerator whould have seen. Pamela Elmo wrote: > > In the old censuses here in Chautauqua Co, Western NY State, I have seen the > term "defective" > Also in another place, a young woman hired girl was called "Harlot". She > nursed the wife thru terminal illness and then she and the widower raised a > large family together, just never bothered to travel to get married. They > were happy the way things were so more power to them.....E T ..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] "idiot" children? > > > In a message dated 8/19/2002 11:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > "idiot" children??? Never heard of it referred to that way, do you mean > > > Mentally Retarded? > > > Robin > > > > > > > Idiot is an old term for Mentally disabled persons, also used was > "simple". > > > > Autiistic children which have abnormal abilitoies are called "Idiot > Savant", > > My son is one. Idiot refers to the inability to cope with teh normal > social > > aspects of life, Savant means what it looks like "Saved". (Save can also > > mean "except".) > > > > Idiot Savant literally means " an idiot except" and usually teh thing > that > > the person is exceptional at is shown. Normally functioning people who > > have exceptional (note the context of EXCEPT) (savant) abilities are > called > > PRODIGIES. > > > > > > > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A > HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > > ~~ > > If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture > of a > > hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle? > > > > ______________________________ > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 8/18/02 7:33:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I like your tag line. It is so true. > Whitewolf > > Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, > > it will avoid you. > > A pity the same isn't true of trouble. I'm getting more trouble as I get older and less of it disguised as temptation! Whose brilliant idea was this?!? CBL, IBSSG

Idiot sighting. I told someone to UPLOAD a photo into their computer and send it to me. They tried to put the 3.5 x 5 print into the floppy port. wrote me that it didn't fit, and asked if they should TRIM it. I suggested they put the photo on CD-rom...... Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

Just meandering through a website on snakes native to TN and came across the following......... " Tennessee State Law Protects All Snakes In Tennessee it is illegal to harm, kill, remove from the wild, or possess native snakes taken from the wild without the proper permits." Yeah, well, sorry Governor, but this copperhead was going after me and my dog and I didn't have time to apply for the proper permit! Geezzzz........ Best, SueB

[email protected] wrote... >I suggested they put the photo on CD-rom...... < And so now I'm envisioning the individual trying to glue the picture to the CD...... <shaking head> SueB

In a message dated 8/19/2002 5:44:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Apparently, there are means to unsubscribe people who email boxes can't > handle enormous files, such as are created when special fonts are used, or > someone quotes the whole digest at me. Therefore, I won't be getting > replies unless they are copied to me. > > Cathy had asked for more on my Grandma Susie - aka the riveter. I don't > know a whole lot other than that she did this. My mother mentioned it when > > the special came on TV. She didn't know any more; I could go on about that > > but won't. > > My grandmother is dead of cancer, back in 1995, or I would ask her. Her > only other child, my Aunt, is not speaking to me. No one else still alive > knows anything, or is afraid that I will use the information to get money > they're entitled to - as if! > > Doris B IBSSG > Actually Doris, Hotmail has been botching again. All Hotmail users are getting only SOME of the mail intended for them. Hotmail would be my last choice for a mail account if I were on mail lists, this happens VERY often. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

The only "bizarre" occupations I've discovered in my research happened in my own immediate generation...I used to be a stripper (working for a printing company...kept all my clothes on) & my ex-wife was a hooker (she made rugs). Mike,IBSSG

In a message dated 8/17/02 9:44:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Don't have to be Scots to be more than a bit disgusted with him. And I'm > > both, Scots and English. Can't win them all. > > I had to chuckle over the above, I'm English Scot with a little Irish > thrown in, I can't even get along with my self. <GRIN> > > -- > Wild Bill, North Pole, Alaska > I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to see it my > way. > > I've got some Irish in me English side, or so I'm told. I haven't found the connection yet. That I have some Irish will come as no surprise to the people on this list. =) Look at it this way, all three of yours, plus my German forebearers, have at least one thing they agree on...none of them are liikely to turn down a flagon of brew! Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "I like beer, it makes me a jolly good fellow!" -- Tom T. Hall

In a message dated 8/17/02 8:54:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > No offense intended to any fair-haired readers. I was a natural blonde > myself until I was 4 years old! (That accounts for a few things, right?) > SueB > > A young blonde lady had all the windows in her house replaced with new > double-insulated energy-efficient windows. > Twelve months later, she gets an irate call from the contractor > complaining that the work has been done for a year and despite repeated > bills and collection notices, she has yet to make the first payment. > The blonde replies, "Now, don't try to pull a fast one on me. The > salesman who sold me those told me that in one year they would pay for > themselves." > > > > Yikes! I will have to pass this one along to my cousin, a blonde, who loves blonde jokes. She gave me a whole huge text file full of the things! Just a note, as I get older and presumably wiser, my blonde hair gets darker. Just a coincidence, I'm sure. Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "Pardon me, I'm having a Blonde moment."

In a message dated 8/17/02 4:26:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Don't you know that Dogs have Masters.....Cats have Servants???....<g> > I have five cats, so I know!!! Hence the old saying, "To dogs we are family. To cats we are staff." > > Peg R > NSW > Australia > [email protected] > Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl yore mistakes. > > Aye cee nuthig rong wif yoor spellin... Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "Two beers in him and he gets loopy!" "How can you tell...?" -- me sister and me mum, both wise women.

In a message dated 8/17/02 2:33:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > From: Ava Fischer wrote... > > I have a cat and she does think she is a goddess.< > > Y'know, those critters have never gotten over being worshipped in Egypt > for all of those centuries!! :-) > Best, > SueB > Hmm, where did I hear *that*...? =) CBL, IBSSG "They call her Echo, Echo, faster than lightning..." -- Unknown musician to a waitress named Echo. Medford, Oregon, 1987.

In a message dated 8/17/02 11:22:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > In a message dated 8/17/02 2:12:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] > writes: > > > > Cats were once worshipped as gods and for some reason have never > forgotten > > it. > > > > Cal, call a cat an it tells you to take a number. I tell mine that I > always > have # 1. LOL > > I love your taglines. > Thanks. I try to be topical with them, but sometimes ya just gotta go with something outta left field. Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG I call them as I see them, and if I didn't see them I make it up!

In a message dated 8/17/02 11:20:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > IDIOT SIGHTING #4 > I work with an individual who plugged her power strip > back into itself and for the life of her couldn't > understand why her system would not turn on. > Yup. Back when I worked for a computer store our tech had to make a field visit (house call to a business) to find out why the very expensive system we had just sold this company wasn't working. Guess what...? =) Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "Major delusion: Ice cream makes computers work better. Spoon it right in there!" -- GURPS Role Playing Game

> > > > I had to chuckle over the above, I'm English Scot with a little Irish > > thrown in, I can't even get along with my self. <GRIN> > > > > I've got some Irish in me English side, or so I'm told. I haven't found > the connection yet. That I have some Irish will come as no surprise to the > people on this list. =) > > Look at it this way, all three of yours, plus my German forebearers, have > at least one thing they agree on...none of them are liikely to turn down a > flagon of brew! > > Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG > > "I like beer, it makes me a jolly good fellow!" -- Tom T. Hall > I just named the Paternal side, My maternal side is German, French and Polish Now along with the English Scot and Irish, that really makes a mixture. And yes 18 years ago, I was known to drink a brew or two cases -- Wild Bill, North Pole, Alaska My reality check just bounced

In a message dated 8/18/02 11:51:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > "an unusual occupation for a woman," > > E T sez: > Your note is most interesting.....Years ago when my wife and I were selling > real estate, we knew a elderly woman who had been a diesel engine mechanic. > That's heavy, dirty work but she liked it. Said when she was a kid, she > always hung out with father and brothers to repair fam car and such. E T > sez, why not do what you like and that you are good at..... > Also I knew a man who was a cooper, who worked up until the 50's making > barrels for the old family owned Star winery here in Fredonia, NY..... Thanks ET Interesting that you actually knew a cooper.. That is neat. I am glad you found my history interesting. Thanks for sharing. Robin

Just to let everyone know, Bettye is back, I have forwarded her three posts. Let's welcome her back, please. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

In a message dated 8/18/2002 3:55:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > > Robin ,that is wonderful information about your occupation and your picture > > being posted. Mine was posted along with my husbands on the First > Business > Magazine here in Jax, but I made a mistake and told one list that and I > was > accused of being a bragger and name dropper. > > Is there a web site for the newspaper article that we may see it. My > newspaper here has a web site and my information is still on it and the > net > if my full name is posted in the search browser it comes up. Amazing what > you can find out over the net.. > > Isn't that terrible.? I love sucessful people, My mother always taught > me > not to hang with losers, always hang with successful people she said, and > > maybe one day you will be successful too dear. How very true. > > She also said if you lie down with dogs you pick up fleas. I sure miss my > > mother. Thought about her today as I was out in the Ocean fishing and > looking at the beautiful world and seas that were created. > > Congratulations Robin your occupation is interesting. > > > Bettye > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?

For a good laugh and to really understand the way it IS, go to: http://members.shaw.ca/LeesPlace/mansong.htm turn up your volume, you won't want to miss a word!! Patsy in the Golden State Wine Country

[email protected] wrote... >Just to let everyone know, Bettye is back, I have forwarded her three posts. Let's welcome her back, please.< Welcome back, Bettye!!! Good to have you aboard again!! :-) Best, SueB-TLC IBSSG Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle? ==== BlackSheep Mailing List ==== [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 8/18/2002 1:47:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > They have one of these in the Museum at Hill Air force Base. > > AKA Flying gas tank. LOL Leaky gas tanks. I loved working on the Habu. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle?