Peg, You have got to be kidding - I never knew about not drowning thing!!! I really did almost drown my silly self twice before I was eight years old - guess I finally put cause and effect together!!! What does being the 7th child of a 7th child - Mom and Daughter mean. Lordy - perhaps I'll hit the Lottery one Day, hope it's the big one. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg Rampling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: [BSChat] SNAKES!!!!#3 > of those caul things over my face>>>>....consider yourself charmed!!! My > 80+ mother says the superstition is that you will have a charmed life...and > NEVER drown!!! > > he Irish consider it extremely lucky to be born with a caul covering the > face!!! > > Peg R > NSW > Australia > [email protected] > It's hard to be nostalgic when you can't remember anything. > Checked by Norton's AV > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > [email protected] is a wide spectrum Chat List, Topics allowed are almost anything.restrictions are: > Political discussion, religious prosylitizing, and aggressive behavior, any of these topics will result in restricted priveleges. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Bettye, Marge here again - forgot to mention that I've known of people who put their Koi Fish in their Wills. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Oh, me....#6 > Me too, I killed a small snake for the first time about 6 yrs ago, as he > was getting into my Koi pool or pond. > > It scared me to death, but I killed him with a shovel. > > My poo rKoi are alive and well today, and when I moved to my new home here > about 5 yrs ago, I brought all of them with me, today they are in my lake > outside my back door. They were my babies, in my sales contract on my > home, I made mention that my Koi did not stay only the goldfish. > > All the people here get to enjoy them now, and they are huge and beautiful. > > I have to go all the way across town to find a Farm Feed store to purchase > floating catfish pellets to feed them,, as I spoiled them and some will > almost eat out of your hand. I did have a Farm supply Store close by and it > closed forsome reason. > > The colors are remarkable on the Koi, and they are all so beautiful. In > Japan the Koi are handed down to grandchildren, etc and they have an > extremely long life. > > Bettye > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi Bettye & List, We lived in Arkansas before I was born - Mom was bitten by a Copperhead and spent three months in bed, I was delivered by my Grandma and the Hired Girl. My Cousin who is a nurse says I must have some great antibody's in my blood - also had one of those caul things over my face. Now all of you know why I'm a bit weird!!!! Have a good evening all and Take Care. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] Oh, me....#6 > Me too, I killed a small snake for the first time about 6 yrs ago, as he > was getting into my Koi pool or pond. > > It scared me to death, but I killed him with a shovel. > > My poo rKoi are alive and well today, and when I moved to my new home here > about 5 yrs ago, I brought all of them with me, today they are in my lake > outside my back door. They were my babies, in my sales contract on my > home, I made mention that my Koi did not stay only the goldfish. > > All the people here get to enjoy them now, and they are huge and beautiful. > > I have to go all the way across town to find a Farm Feed store to purchase > floating catfish pellets to feed them,, as I spoiled them and some will > almost eat out of your hand. I did have a Farm supply Store close by and it > closed forsome reason. > > The colors are remarkable on the Koi, and they are all so beautiful. In > Japan the Koi are handed down to grandchildren, etc and they have an > extremely long life. > > Bettye > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 8/19/02 12:36:14 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > my ex-wife was a hooker (she made rugs). Mike, you could say I'm a hooker. LOL, I create and make crochet patterns, then I give them away, by sample. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

In a message dated 8/19/02 11:46:25 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I suggested they put the photo on CD-rom...... Jeff, you mean the "drink holder?" ROFL Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

In a message dated 8/18/02 11:38:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Bettye is back Hi Bettye. I'm happy to see you. Lets roll up our sleeves and tell some tales. LOL A little genealogy wouldn't be amiss. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Hey, Whitewolf & all! Many of our indigenous ancestors learned & practiced herbal medicine. The Maya people still do so...had the honoured experience of first hand use & observation about a year ago in Belize. They can cure almost anything by the use of growing things in their tropical rain forest. Mike, IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. L. Fischer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 7:41 PM Subject: [BSChat] Medicine woman > I was not criticizing the craft or the person performing the craft. Just > sometimes sick people want more than boil the water and seep this herb for > ten minutes, cool and drink three times a day. If it sounded like I was > criticizing anyone I'm sorry that you took it that way, it was not meant > that way. I believe in my granny's craft. I only wish that I could have > learned from her. > > Whitewolf > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Interesting Occupations > > > > Too bad. I begin to see why you say things like she > > put on a show. Kind of sounds just as well. It did > > not occur to me that you might be criticizing the > > individual and not her craft. > > > > Yours, > > Dora > > > > --- Ava Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Of what tribe was she? Can you tell us more about > > > it? > > > > > > My granny (mother's mother) didn't say to much about > > > it. She was to teach a > > > student her art, but she could not be related. I > > > wanted to learn so much, > > > but my granny said no, I would have to learn from > > > someone else if I was to > > > become a medicine woman. I guess that was not meant > > > to be, because I never > > > did find someone to teach me. We don't know what > > > tribe she was from, she > > > didn't talk about it. We do know that she was born > > > in Oklahoma, so we think > > > she was from one of the five tribes. > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Never heard of a fear snake. My husband likes to watch discovery and that guy that catches all the snakes. Not me. We don't share the same TV at times. Bettye

Me too, I killed a small snake for the first time about 6 yrs ago, as he was getting into my Koi pool or pond. It scared me to death, but I killed him with a shovel. My poo rKoi are alive and well today, and when I moved to my new home here about 5 yrs ago, I brought all of them with me, today they are in my lake outside my back door. They were my babies, in my sales contract on my home, I made mention that my Koi did not stay only the goldfish. All the people here get to enjoy them now, and they are huge and beautiful. I have to go all the way across town to find a Farm Feed store to purchase floating catfish pellets to feed them,, as I spoiled them and some will almost eat out of your hand. I did have a Farm supply Store close by and it closed forsome reason. The colors are remarkable on the Koi, and they are all so beautiful. In Japan the Koi are handed down to grandchildren, etc and they have an extremely long life. Bettye

My cousins husband, cousin-in-law?, worked in a storage facility for bombs and old amino, bombs, etc. He defused the bombs. Now that is not a job I would want. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "bobert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: [BSChat] UNUSUAL OCCUPATION - PERHAPS > Hi, Sheepers! This occupation was not really so unusual - for some - > during WWII. Two of my sisters worked in an ordnance factory. One > worked with regular machine gun bullets - something to do with making > sure they were secure on the bandoliers before they went into the boxes > ... but the other one made land mines. She loaded the powder into the > land mines with some sort of measuring spoon (for want of a better > name). > They both wore special shoes to eliminate static electricity. The land > mine sister left her shift each day with a good case of the 'shakes'. > Now - who wouldn't with such a job! The pay was good but what a way to > make a living! > > Incidently, you have no doubt heard of the saying, "the whole nine > yards"? Comes from the length of the machine gun belt/bandolier with > the bullets in it. > > Shirley: [email protected] > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Did someone mention a Blonde Moment???........ One day a blonde decided to commit suicide. So she went into a park and hung herself. A couple minutes later a man walking his dog walked by and saw the blonde hanging from the tree. He asked nicely "What are you doing hanging from that tree with a rope around your waist?" The blonde answered and said "I'm hanging myself." The man told her that the loop of the rope should be around her neck not her waist. The blonde said, "Well I tried that, but I couldn't breathe!" Peg R NSW Australia [email protected] Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you. Checked by Norton's AV

Hi, Sheepers! This occupation was not really so unusual - for some - during WWII. Two of my sisters worked in an ordnance factory. One worked with regular machine gun bullets - something to do with making sure they were secure on the bandoliers before they went into the boxes ... but the other one made land mines. She loaded the powder into the land mines with some sort of measuring spoon (for want of a better name). They both wore special shoes to eliminate static electricity. The land mine sister left her shift each day with a good case of the 'shakes'. Now - who wouldn't with such a job! The pay was good but what a way to make a living! Incidently, you have no doubt heard of the saying, "the whole nine yards"? Comes from the length of the machine gun belt/bandolier with the bullets in it. Shirley: [email protected]

For a good laugh >>>>......Patsy..this was PRICELESS......and Sooooootrue, eh??? Peg R NSW Australia [email protected] Don't worry about avoiding temptation. As you grow older, it will avoid you. Checked by Norton's AV

Peg Rampling wrote... > I believe our deadliest is one they call the Fear snake....carries enough venom in one bite to kill 200 people!!!< With a bite from something like that I think one would be dead before they hit the ground!! Ok, so, let me get this straight... you *chased* a 6' long *poisonous* snake into the brush? Woman, you've got more guts than I do!!!! ROFL Best, SueB

Peg Rampling wrote.... >.... Only to have my new husband suddenly turn and tell me to stay still...the wretched thing was curled up at the base of the tree on whose roots I was standing!!! < Gracious!! That sounds like a real adrenalin pumping attention getter there!!! :=(( Are these poisonous? Of course, ALL snakes can inflict some rather painful bites but not all are poisonous--thank goodness. Still, I'd rather they find another place to play!!! Best, SueB

Peg Rampling wrote... >>is illegal to harm, kill, remove from the wild>> ......they are protected in Oz as well....maybe we should ALL have permits in case we meet one in a bad mood???< Good idea, Peg! Considering the fact that in the last 2 years, 5 copperheads within feet of our front or back door were sent to meet their maker I think I should have something akin to a blank search warrant, only a snake permit. I felt bad about the 2 non-poisonous snakes that had taken up residence in our garage earlier this summer, but, geezzzzzzz...... Too bad that neither Bobby nor I aren't more like the Crocodile Hunter but snake rescue just isn't my thing! Or his either!! LOL Best, SueB

I was not criticizing the craft or the person performing the craft. Just sometimes sick people want more than boil the water and seep this herb for ten minutes, cool and drink three times a day. If it sounded like I was criticizing anyone I'm sorry that you took it that way, it was not meant that way. I believe in my granny's craft. I only wish that I could have learned from her. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] Interesting Occupations > Too bad. I begin to see why you say things like she > put on a show. Kind of sounds just as well. It did > not occur to me that you might be criticizing the > individual and not her craft. > > Yours, > Dora > > --- Ava Fischer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Of what tribe was she? Can you tell us more about > > it? > > > > My granny (mother's mother) didn't say to much about > > it. She was to teach a > > student her art, but she could not be related. I > > wanted to learn so much, > > but my granny said no, I would have to learn from > > someone else if I was to > > become a medicine woman. I guess that was not meant > > to be, because I never > > did find someone to teach me. We don't know what > > tribe she was from, she > > didn't talk about it. We do know that she was born > > in Oklahoma, so we think > > she was from one of the five tribes.

In the old censuses here in Chautauqua Co, Western NY State, I have seen the term "defective" Also in another place, a young woman hired girl was called "Harlot". She nursed the wife thru terminal illness and then she and the widower raised a large family together, just never bothered to travel to get married. They were happy the way things were so more power to them.....E T ..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [BS-L] "idiot" children? > In a message dated 8/19/2002 11:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > "idiot" children??? Never heard of it referred to that way, do you mean > > Mentally Retarded? > > Robin > > > > Idiot is an old term for Mentally disabled persons, also used was "simple". > > Autiistic children which have abnormal abilitoies are called "Idiot Savant", > My son is one. Idiot refers to the inability to cope with teh normal social > aspects of life, Savant means what it looks like "Saved". (Save can also > mean "except".) > > Idiot Savant literally means " an idiot except" and usually teh thing that > the person is exceptional at is shown. Normally functioning people who > have exceptional (note the context of EXCEPT) (savant) abilities are called > PRODIGIES. > > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > ~~ > If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture of a > hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle? > > ______________________________

In a message dated 8/19/02 10:46:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Idiot sighting. > > I told someone to UPLOAD a photo into their computer and send it to me. > They > tried to put the 3.5 x 5 print into the floppy port. wrote me that it > didn't > fit, and asked if they should TRIM it. > > I suggested they put the photo on CD-rom...... > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > I can see them now with siscers and glue getting the picture perfectly round... =) CBL, IBSSG

In one of the Iowa censuses, Someone was enumerated, including their menial labor job and then off in the margin it said 'idiot'. Another one it was in the comment section. The census takers were supposed to note anyone with a disability because they were looking to understand how many were most likely going to need gov. assistance. I've also seen 'blind', 'deaf', and 'dumb'; as well as 'crippled', 'halt' and 'bent'. When I worked on the 2000 census there were ethnic groups who did not want gov. interferance or help and didn't want to be perceived as needy so they didn't want co-operate. We learned to find the 'head' man or woman and explain how they were hurting themselves. If we got through to them, all of a sudden everyone was home and everyone answered the questions. Then there were the red-blooded Americans who don't think anyone should get assistance so they didn't want to be counted because that was co-operating with giving assistance. Unfortunately what that did is make the percentage of people needing assistance higher, not lower which would enable or qualify a district for more of certain types of assistance. I was a supervisor so I say a lot more of the anomalies than an individual enumerator whould have seen. Pamela Elmo wrote: > > In the old censuses here in Chautauqua Co, Western NY State, I have seen the > term "defective" > Also in another place, a young woman hired girl was called "Harlot". She > nursed the wife thru terminal illness and then she and the widower raised a > large family together, just never bothered to travel to get married. They > were happy the way things were so more power to them.....E T ..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] "idiot" children? > > > In a message dated 8/19/2002 11:07:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > "idiot" children??? Never heard of it referred to that way, do you mean > > > Mentally Retarded? > > > Robin > > > > > > > Idiot is an old term for Mentally disabled persons, also used was > "simple". > > > > Autiistic children which have abnormal abilitoies are called "Idiot > Savant", > > My son is one. Idiot refers to the inability to cope with teh normal > social > > aspects of life, Savant means what it looks like "Saved". (Save can also > > mean "except".) > > > > Idiot Savant literally means " an idiot except" and usually teh thing > that > > the person is exceptional at is shown. Normally functioning people who > > have exceptional (note the context of EXCEPT) (savant) abilities are > called > > PRODIGIES. > > > > > > > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A > HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > > ~~ > > If the AOL experience is so wonderful, how come their LOGO is a picture > of a > > hurricane in the Bermuda Triangle? > > > > ______________________________ > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237