Sounds like he was lost. He needs a chant done for him, I hope his family has it done soon.. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Faye Parker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: [BSChat] ghosts > > On my trip home from Reno I saw a ghost. He wasn't transparent. It wasn't dark No hallucination, or drugs, or alcohol. And the person with me never saw a thing, just got a creepy feeling. > > We were drving in on I-40 about 25-30 miles west of Fort Smith Arkansas, i saw a little boy standing along side the road sucking his thumb. The person I was riding with saw nothing at all. We found out 3-4 kids died near where i saw him, when that bridge collapsed a few months ago. > > > Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),ma jors,pool/poole,summers,thompson > paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,park er,rippy,tipton,whitson > > Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I've never dowsed for water, I wonder if I could. Of course in Washington it would just point to the sky LOL. Whitewolf > Witchcraft or not.....it surely saved me a bundle of money when we had a leak > in an underground return line to the pool. With the rods, I found the leak > in a short time and saved having to tear out all the landscaping and decking > searching for a leak. It turned out to be a pvc elbow that had not been > installed properly and over the years split and started to leak. Hah! Just > had a thought.... Does this now make ME a Blacksheep? <vbg> > > Patricia >

My grandfather and my uncle could dowse for water. Got water every time. Whitewolf > It's not a hoax or a scam, or from the darkside. I can dowse for water. > I can tell you where but not how far to dig. I had a good friend who > was excellent at it he could tell you how far and how much. I wasn't > able to do it and he said I didn't have the right charge in my body. He > enabled me on how to find water, he took his metal rod and he held on > one end and I the other end then we joined hands and it gave me the > right charge in my body to be able to dowse for water. I can take a > pair of pliers and spread it to te widest opening and with the jaws > pointing up, grab the handles and walk around and when I'm over water > the jaws will turn and point down. To me its eerie, no way can I > prevent those jaws from turning down. I've tried to grip the handle > tight enough to stop it and it almost tears the skin from the palms of > my hands and I have to allow them to do the job.

Dowsing is also known as "Witching". I am not sure about the Metal rod dowsing, but scientistsdo say there is a scientific reason why dowsing with a split willow wood twig works. It has to do with increased humidity escaping above where the underground water is. Sinvce people are reporting Metal dowsing also works, I wonder how and why. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ "Genealogy is the art of the Living haunting the Dead."

In a message dated 9/5/02 2:47:05 PM, [email protected] writes: << Whether it is from "The dark side" or not didn't get into it, although I am sure some thought it witchcraft. >> Witchcraft or not.....it surely saved me a bundle of money when we had a leak in an underground return line to the pool. With the rods, I found the leak in a short time and saved having to tear out all the landscaping and decking searching for a leak. It turned out to be a pvc elbow that had not been installed properly and over the years split and started to leak. Hah! Just had a thought.... Does this now make ME a Blacksheep? <vbg> Patricia

In a message dated 9/5/2002 11:07:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Source: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BSChat] what is old legal term for fortune telling? > > > So it was illegal to protect the people from scams? Not because it was > from > the dark side? You would be surprised, or maybe not, what some people > believe were from the devil or witchcraft. > Whitewolf No it was Illegal tpo Dowse or Divine. Protecting the people from scams was the reason it was illegal. Whether it is from "The dark side" or not didn't get into it, although I am sure some thought it witchcraft. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ "Genealogy is the art of the Living haunting the Dead."

In a message dated 9/5/2002 10:53:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Why and where? > > Whitewolf > > > > I know there are laws against Divining, or Dowsing. > Mostly in Oklahoma, and other drought hampered areas, during the Dustbowl years there were a lot of scams. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ "Genealogy is the art of the Living haunting the Dead."

On my trip home from Reno I saw a ghost. He wasn't transparent. It wasn't dark No hallucination, or drugs, or alcohol. And the person with me never saw a thing, just got a creepy feeling. We were drving in on I-40 about 25-30 miles west of Fort Smith Arkansas, i saw a little boy standing along side the road sucking his thumb. The person I was riding with saw nothing at all. We found out 3-4 kids died near where i saw him, when that bridge collapsed a few months ago. Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

There are a lot of things SOME people can do and others can't. Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Hey Sue, This came at a 'great' time for me, because I quickly 'reflected' on the past weekend at the 137th Scottish Games held in Pleasanton, CA. There were over 800 musicians performing the grand finale--Amazing Grace was played at first by a lone bagpiper and then a verse played by the massed bands (35 bands plus the Marine Corps and a Scottish Military Band) and then back to the lone piper. So "Mace" not only gave me a chuckle, but revived my memories of a wonderful weekend!! If you have ever been to one of these gatherings, you will know how inspiring it is to watch the Scottish display their pride in their heritage. On Sunday they had a couple of senators as guests. One announced that the State of California is now a Clan of its own, even having its own tartan and coat of arms. This Clan was created for those who cannot find their name listed in any of the numerous Scottish Clans and who want to celebrate the weekend recognized as a "Clansman". These Pleasanton Games are the biggest in North America and is referred to as the "Granddaddy of the Games"! I have been attending them for the last 23 years and look forward to Labor Day like a child looks forward to Christmas! So thanks very much for sharing this cute joke! Patsy in the Golden State Wine Country

In a message dated 9/5/2002 8:42:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Heh! That makes my grandpa a lawbreaker and another black sheep in my > line! =) He was always able to tell you how far down to dig and how much > water you'd get. His accuracy was uncanny! > > Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG > It depends where and when, Cal. Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~ "Genealogy is the art of the Living haunting the Dead."

In a message dated 8/30/02 10:07:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > FW: These are so bad they're good1. It just goes to show ya, the shortest distance between two puns is a straight line. =) Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG Stop me before I pun again!

In a message dated 8/28/02 4:50:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > I know there are laws against Divining, or Dowsing. > > Jeff > > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > Heh! That makes my grandpa a lawbreaker and another black sheep in my line! =) He was always able to tell you how far down to dig and how much water you'd get. His accuracy was uncanny! Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG Why is the dowsing rod pointing at my head...?

[email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/5/2002 11:07:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > Source: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [BSChat] what is old legal term for fortune telling? > > > > > > So it was illegal to protect the people from scams? Not because it was > > from > > the dark side? You would be surprised, or maybe not, what some people > > believe were from the devil or witchcraft. > > Whitewolf > > No it was Illegal tpo Dowse or Divine. Protecting the people from scams was > the reason it was illegal. > > Whether it is from "The dark side" or not didn't get into it, although I am > sure some thought it witchcraft. > It's not a hoax or a scam, or from the darkside. I can dowse for water. I can tell you where but not how far to dig. I had a good friend who was excellent at it he could tell you how far and how much. I wasn't able to do it and he said I didn't have the right charge in my body. He enabled me on how to find water, he took his metal rod and he held on one end and I the other end then we joined hands and it gave me the right charge in my body to be able to dowse for water. I can take a pair of pliers and spread it to te widest opening and with the jaws pointing up, grab the handles and walk around and when I'm over water the jaws will turn and point down. To me its eerie, no way can I prevent those jaws from turning down. I've tried to grip the handle tight enough to stop it and it almost tears the skin from the palms of my hands and I have to allow them to do the job. -- Wild Bill, North Pole, Alaska My reality check just bounced

So it was illegal to protect the people from scams? Not because it was from the dark side? You would be surprised, or maybe not, what some people believe were from the devil or witchcraft. Whitewolf ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] what is old legal term for fortune telling? > In a message dated 9/5/2002 10:53:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > Why and where? > > > > Whitewolf > > > > > > I know there are laws against Divining, or Dowsing. > > > > Mostly in Oklahoma, and other drought hampered areas, during the Dustbowl > years there were a lot of scams. > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > ~~ > "Genealogy is the art of the Living haunting the Dead." > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Why and where? Whitewolf > > I know there are laws against Divining, or Dowsing.

I wish you were there also Sue. It was a wonderful day, and meeting the Geneaolgist and distant cousins was fun. Just found out I lost a high school girlfreind last night, I called the funeral home in Georgia and no one seems to know the cause of death. Makes me wonder, if there is a reason for not saying. Doing fall cleaning yesterday and today, as I was unable to tackle the task in the spring. Bettye

A mechanic who worked out of his home had a dog named Mace. Mace had a bad habit of eating all the grass in the mechanic's lawn, so the mechanic had to keep Mace inside. The grass eventually became overgrown. One day the mechanic was working on a car in his backyard and dropped his wrench, losing it in the tall grass. He couldn't find it for the life of him so he decided to call it a day. That night Mace escaped from the house and ate all the grass in the backyard. The next morning the mechanic went outside and saw his wrench glinting in the sunlight. Realizing what had happened he looked up to the heavens and proclaimed, Scroll Down (I don't think you are ready for this) "A grazing Mace, how sweet the hound that saved a wrench for me!!!"

Sounds like you had a GREAT time, Bettye! Wish I could've been there to join in on some of the fun! :-) Best, SueB

My ex-wife was born a Bradford. She was born out of wedlock to a "woman friend" of her biological father, Dale Elwood Bradford...a direct descendant of the Gov. Bradford of note. Her biological father convinced his wife of many years that they should adopt his illegitimate daughter, which they did. A bit more than 11 years later, the young girl had the dubious honor of watching her biological father shoot her adoptive mother then turn the gun on himself & commit suicide. Dale Bradford had been mixed up with organised crime in the state of Missouri until his death in the late 1950's. From what my ex-wife's grandmother (his mother) had said, his birth father (her ex-husband) had been a true brigand in his own right, but she refused to discuss him much, since she had already been widowed by her second husband, by whom she had two very sucessful sons (one and attorney, and one a doctor). Evidently, many of the Bradford clan would have qualified as blacksheep. Sorry I can't supply more detail, but the ex-wife is the one who refused to have any of my "genealogy junk" in "her" house, so all this is from memory, and I left her over 10 years ago. Mike, IBSSG