Sue: Which program has what setting? Dora --- Bobby & Sue Bates <[email protected]> wrote: > Dora Smith wrote.... > >Also, I need to find some documentaion on Puritan > dating. I guess FTM doesn't know about it!< > > Actually, they do have a setting for the cut-off for > the double dates like that. It is in your > preferences and you can fine tune it to suit your > wishes. > Best, > SueB > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

Dora, PAF obviously imports from other programs without mangling!>>>.........that is because PAF is the original program...everything is based on it. I too would be interested in any answers though Peg R NSW Australia [email protected] It's a poor family that hath neither a whore or a thief. Checked by Norton's AV

My brother has lived with a ghost for about 25 years. A little old lady that comes to check up on them once in a while, they think it is the previous owner of their house. When the kids were little she would check to see if they had kicked out of the covers, if so she let my brother and his wife know. She let them see a lightness where she would be, never completely materialized for them, but you could catch her out of the corner of your eye. They didn't care that she lived with them, she just became a member of the family, and she comes and goes whenever she wants to. Whitewolf > > > Some people are more sensitive to spirits than other people. > > Whitewolf > > > > The ghost I live with agrees with you, but I'm not sure... > > =) > > Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG > > "Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!" > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Online Obituary Index, but I THINK its only for Ohio www.rbhayes.org/index Yoyo

In a message dated 9/15/02 11:50:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Don't know why double standards were ok. > Whitewolf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:41 PM > Subject: Re: [BS-L] Re: Katherine Howard > > > > And old Henry VIII when one wife was beheaded was on his way to his > mistress > > house as soon as the head came off. > > > > It was OK for the bull to jump the fence , but not the heifer. Now why > is > > that? > > > > Bettye > It isn't, but the bulls pretty much made the rules, so they pretty much got away with anything they wanted to. Makes one wonder about the word "bull" and why we use it for other meanings... Maybe that's just syncronicity. Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "It's science gone terribly wrong!"

In a message dated 9/15/02 11:49:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Some people are more sensitive to spirits than other people. > Whitewolf > The ghost I live with agrees with you, but I'm not sure... =) Calvin B. Littlefield, IBSSG "Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!"

In a message dated 9/12/02 11:33:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Wildflowers are a special project of mine. > > Bless your little ol' pea-pickin' heart! As one who drives for a living I appreciate any attempt to brighten up the roadsides. =) CBL, IBSSG

In a message dated 9/16/02 12:50:16 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Also, I need to find some documentaion on Puritan > dating. Dora, try the following link and/or URL, it the link doesn't come through. There is a very good article in these papers about the split year, when it should be used and so forth. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow <A HREF="http://brownellfamily.rootsweb.com/chronicles.html">The Brownell Chronicles</A> < http://brownellfamily.rootsweb.com/chronicles.html >

In a message dated 9/16/02 7:44:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Does anyone know of a genealogy program that imports > GEDCOM's from PAF Dora, which version of PAF do you have? the newer 5.0 version has more options than the 4.0 and earlier. It is also a free download. I would advise you to play with PAF a little. Click on the tabs at the top and see what is in them. See what it will do before you go to another program. I have PAF along with Ancestral Quest. I'm happy with both. Ancestral Quest does some nice reports. I haven't put pictures in, but I know that it will do so. Aleta, IBSSG, Charter Member Bo-Peep Award Ogden, Utah, USA "God sent his Singers upon the Earth, With songs of Gladness and Mirth. That they might touch the hearts of men, And bring them to Heaven again." --Longfellow

Adn guess who I look like? (UH_AR-R-R-GH!) In fact, people at work who'd enver seen a picture of my father were picking my grandfather out of a group college photo! Dora --- Faye Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > My uncle(by marriage) got in touch with me a week > ago. He sent me pictures of my dad(died 1962) in > short pants. Also pictures of my grandparents when > they first married. > > Also while my second cousin was digging through an > old barn, he found a painting of my grt. grandmother > who died in 1909. And an old photo album with her, > her 3 brothers and parents. All these people have > been dead for yrs. We think there was also a picture > of her husband and her but we aren't sure > > > Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am > researching > maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson > paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson > > Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If > you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

It's pretty exciting when that happens. The first pictures I ever saw of my father's parents were sent to me by some third cousins! Dora --- Faye Parker <[email protected]> wrote: > > My uncle(by marriage) got in touch with me a week > ago. He sent me pictures of my dad(died 1962) in > short pants. Also pictures of my grandparents when > they first married. > > Also while my second cousin was digging through an > old barn, he found a painting of my grt. grandmother > who died in 1909. And an old photo album with her, > her 3 brothers and parents. All these people have > been dead for yrs. We think there was also a picture > of her husband and her but we aren't sure > > > Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am > researching > maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson > paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson > > Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If > you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

In a message dated 9/16/2002 11:50:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Jeff: > > Is there a list at rootsweb to discuss such issues as > GEDCOMS and data sharing? > > I am going to run into compatibility issues when I am > ready to upload my data to Genconnect, too, I might as > well deal with them while I'm at it. > > Also, I need to find some documentaion on Puritan > dating. I guess FTM doesn't know about it! > > Dora There WERE severalat one time, However I am not sure which are still active. <A HREF="http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Genealogical_Computing/GEN-COMP-TIPS.html"> RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: GEN-COMP-TIPS</A> Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.

I went to the opthamologist's office with my husband, David this morning in case he needed someone to drive him home. He had gotten something into his eye at work on Fri. A man came in the waiting room and asked him if he was related to B.J. Koons (who is David's 2nd cousin) and introduced himself by saying that his daughter was married to B.J. I told him that I had been corresponding by email with his wife on the genealogy of the Koons family. He brought her into the waiting room. We were so happy to finally meet each other and put faces with the names! Jinnye Faye Parker wrote: My uncle(by marriage) got in touch with me a week ago. He sent me pictures of my dad(died 1962) in short pants. Also pictures of my grandparents when they first married. Also while my second cousin was digging through an old barn, he found a painting of my grt. grandmother who died in 1909. And an old photo album with her, her 3 brothers and parents. All these people have been dead for yrs. We think there was also a picture of her husband and her but we aren't sure Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

Dora Smith wrote.... >Also, I need to find some documentaion on Puritan dating. I guess FTM doesn't know about it!< Actually, they do have a setting for the cut-off for the double dates like that. It is in your preferences and you can fine tune it to suit your wishes. Best, SueB

That's really neat stuff there with those pictures! Reminds me of the treasure box that she sent down from my mom's things. There's a TON of folks that I don't recognize but some that I do, including my adoptive dad at about age 12 or so with his mom. He was wearing knickers in the picture! ;-) Best, SueB

Jeff: Is there a list at rootsweb to discuss such issues as GEDCOMS and data sharing? I am going to run into compatibility issues when I am ready to upload my data to Genconnect, too, I might as well deal with them while I'm at it. Also, I need to find some documentaion on Puritan dating. I guess FTM doesn't know about it! Dora --- [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 9/16/2002 6:44:47 AM Pacific > Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > Only reason why I want another program is to do > nice > > reports; I am satisfied with PAF for data entry > and > > exchange. > > > > There is at least one genealogy program that > converts files directly (not via > gedcom) > I am not sure if it is "Ultimate Family Tree" or > "Generations" > > > Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A > HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) > ~~Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the > dead. > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If > you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com

In a message dated 9/16/2002 6:44:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > Only reason why I want another program is to do nice > reports; I am satisfied with PAF for data entry and > exchange. > There is at least one genealogy program that converts files directly (not via gedcom) I am not sure if it is "Ultimate Family Tree" or "Generations" Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG, (<A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A>) ~~Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.

Dora, have you tried Legacy? They have the 3.0 edition free on their website. It will even help you make a great webpage! Rhonda IBSSG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> : Does anyone know of a genealogy program that imports : GEDCOM's from PAF and puts out nice reports, "books" : with pictures and stories and that sort of thing? : : I got an older version, 7.0, of Family Tree Maker : Deluxe Edition, and it can't even import dates. It : drops or mangles Puritan dates, such as 4 Nov 1626/27, : which the members of the FTM tech support list spent : extensive time telling me isn't a valid GEDCOM date : even though PAF is the creator of the GEDCOM standard : and the date is both valid and common for the period. : : It has trouble if you don't write "about" correctly, : and the paf form is "abt", and it may have trouble : with 1636-1637! : : I've got people telling me I've got to go back and : manually reenter all of those dates, and in FTM format : so that 1636/1637 abecomes 1636-1637, which loses the : fact that it's a Puritan date and makes it look : ambiguous. With a large database of course I'm not : going to do that. : : There also seem to be other bugs not designed with : people serious about genealogy in mind, such as : "books" have indexes but they don't let you list dates : or identification numbers with the names! : : Another problem people were reporting; FTM mangles : facts and attributes on importing such that if you : list occupation, date and place the actual occupation : gets listedin the place field. : : It is the height of stupid that any genealogical : program can't import from PAF - does anyone know of a : program that does it better? I'm a little scared to : go out and try another program now. : : Only reason why I want another program is to do nice : reports; I am satisfied with PAF for data entry and : exchange. : : Come to think of it, noone has ever sent me a GEDCOM : that the details were mangled when I opened the file. : PAF obviously imports from other programs without : mangling! : : Dora

My uncle(by marriage) got in touch with me a week ago. He sent me pictures of my dad(died 1962) in short pants. Also pictures of my grandparents when they first married. Also while my second cousin was digging through an old barn, he found a painting of my grt. grandmother who died in 1909. And an old photo album with her, her 3 brothers and parents. All these people have been dead for yrs. We think there was also a picture of her husband and her but we aren't sure Am Southern born and bred and darn proud of it Am researching maternally:ballard,briley,clubbs,george,gillihan,goolsby,jackson,link(9x),majors,pool/poole,summers,thompson paternally:ausbrooks,barber,:brown,freeland,gant,kirkham,mcquiston,moye,parker,rippy,tipton,whitson Brenda Parker proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines

Does anyone know of a genealogy program that imports GEDCOM's from PAF and puts out nice reports, "books" with pictures and stories and that sort of thing? I got an older version, 7.0, of Family Tree Maker Deluxe Edition, and it can't even import dates. It drops or mangles Puritan dates, such as 4 Nov 1626/27, which the members of the FTM tech support list spent extensive time telling me isn't a valid GEDCOM date even though PAF is the creator of the GEDCOM standard and the date is both valid and common for the period. It has trouble if you don't write "about" correctly, and the paf form is "abt", and it may have trouble with 1636-1637! I've got people telling me I've got to go back and manually reenter all of those dates, and in FTM format so that 1636/1637 abecomes 1636-1637, which loses the fact that it's a Puritan date and makes it look ambiguous. With a large database of course I'm not going to do that. There also seem to be other bugs not designed with people serious about genealogy in mind, such as "books" have indexes but they don't let you list dates or identification numbers with the names! Another problem people were reporting; FTM mangles facts and attributes on importing such that if you list occupation, date and place the actual occupation gets listedin the place field. It is the height of stupid that any genealogical program can't import from PAF - does anyone know of a program that does it better? I'm a little scared to go out and try another program now. Only reason why I want another program is to do nice reports; I am satisfied with PAF for data entry and exchange. Come to think of it, noone has ever sent me a GEDCOM that the details were mangled when I opened the file. PAF obviously imports from other programs without mangling! Dora __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com