As we get nearer to war--and I think it will happen, now--I pray for all of you who have children who are serving in the military, American and our allies. Bless them all, keep them safe. Sue G. > I will light a candle for ya, my daughter is in basic training as we speak. > I did not know she joined the Air Force until a month ago. > They called her early so I didn't have time to adjust. > I will be thinking of you and for the record, I am proud of your kid and > mine too! > Its simple why I am against the war. My son will be expected to go over > there and fight maybe die. But the 1000's of immigrants legal and illegal > who are of fighting age, get to stay home and enjoy our country, because > they aren't American citizens. ______________________________

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wings@mountainwings.com wrote:From: wings@mountainwings.com To: faye parker Subject: MountainWings:Sunday - Hole Ting Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:00:00 -0500 ------------------------------------------------- MountainWings A MountainWings Moment #2070 Wings Over The Mountains of Life ------------------------------------------------- Hole Ting ========== Hole Ting Hole Ting Hole Ting That's what my two-year-old says. He has developed the habit of wanting it all. My wife will often offer him a spoonful of food from her plate. I will break off a piece of what I am eating and hand it to him. He shakes his head. He emphatically says, "Hole Ting." He doesn't want a piece. He doesn't want a spoonful. He wants the whole thing. I wondered, "Where did he get such behavior?" Who taught him that? Where did he pick it up? Hole Ting? Why didn't he want to share? Why wasn't he satisfied with what was given to him? Wasn't the piece sufficient? The piece was plenty and he could get as many as he could eat. Why did he want the whole thing? Was he acting like a child or an adult? As I watched other children, I saw that it was more innate for children to want the whole thing. They wanted the whole toy without sharing. They wanted all of mama's attention. They wanted the swing or the tricycle all of the time. Hole Ting Many of the conflicts and wars are over the same thing. People don't want to share. They want it all. Hole Ting It's not just for kids anymore. A MountainWings Original Thank you for inviting MountainWings in your mailbox. See you tomorrow. ***************************************************************** Please help support MountainWings with a Donation. To Subscribe, Un-Subscribe, Get a Book or T-Shirt, Tell-A-Friend about MountainWings, Ask Advice, Rate an Issue, Read Past Issues, Submit a MountainWings Moment or Prayer Request, or to read Today's Issue in larger easier to read type: Go To: http://www.mountainwings.com You are subscribed as: fairplay51@yahoo.com Am proud member of the IBSSG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

Sorry for the duplication!!! Looks like my email is still not quite well here. ARRRGGGHHHHH Best, SueB ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby & Sue Bates To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 18 March, 2003 1:33 AM Subject: [BSChat] Us vs Them from Bettye & my reply to Pamela Pamela Booth wrote.... >....That a point can be made without name calling and such! You are a great southern lady and I'm proud to know you! And go girl, Sue! < Pamela Well said, Pamela, and right back atcha! I had to smile when I read your comment about your son having all of the answers at 17. Isn't it funny, I can remember being the same way. And now, it seems like the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Sounds like an oxymoron if ever I heard one! ;-) Best, SueB http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Unsubscribe from the list: Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Pamela Booth wrote.... >Oh, how true Suzie girl! I hope that's allowed. I think tonight we need to give one another the biggest e-mail hug! This list is really special and thankyou Jeff for letting us sound off! We know nothing! Pamela< LOL!!! Yep, it's allowed and, actually, it's one of the nicer things that I've been called in my life!! ;-) Big e-hug to all of us tonight! Best, SueB http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore

Pamela Booth wrote.... >....That a point can be made without name calling and such! You are a great southern lady and I'm proud to know you! And go girl, Sue! < Pamela Well said, Pamela, and right back atcha! I had to smile when I read your comment about your son having all of the answers at 17. Isn't it funny, I can remember being the same way. And now, it seems like the more I learn, the more I realize how little I know. Sounds like an oxymoron if ever I heard one! ;-) Best, SueB http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore

Hi Sheepers, Can anyone help me with this; I now have a name to search for (I think it is the right one) so I can now request military records from NARA for my father. One of the questions on their request form I don't understand because I have no military knowledge. The question is whether he was an officer or enlisted? I don't know what he was because I don't understand the terms 'officer' and 'enlisted'. I tried to find help at NARA site but didn't find any. Any ideas anyone? I suppose you are all sleeping sheepies right now so I'll have to wait till you all wake up. Thanks, Lucind.

Dora Smith wrote.... >Whoa, wait a minute - I checked the web site below - Sue, is this you?< Dora >> http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore< Yeppers, that would be me. Guilty as charged. ;-) Best, SueB

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Oh Lucinda, What you don't know is that what this group loves is a good search and find. Keep on talking. You are narrowing the looking field with ever post. Some of these people are so experienced that you will be amazed at how fast they may find him. Just keep talking. Any details about what specifically he did with Rickenbacher will help because I believe his units are pretty well documented. And he had the Blacksheeop squardron, didn't he? Keep on talking Ozzie girl and I bet we find your dad fast! Tell us every thing you can remember. You are not alone! What fun! Pamela Bonds wrote: > > > That is a most interesting true story, Lucinda; Thank you.....ET..... > > Thanks Elmo, and thanks to my father for his rich history. > > If I lived in US I would go through all the Washington Times and/or Washington Post because he said that when the trouble broke out and he had to leave, that his photo made the paper, that he had on a swan tailed suit and that it was taken on the steps of Capitol Building. That would have been either 1924 or 1925. > > That information comes from Mum, she said he was quite proud of the really good photo...! I really should try to materialise some cash to get over there myself and look, unfortunately I can't think how to get my hands on enough of it. Wish he was still around, he'd have some ideas I'm sure. Then again that could be dangerous! > > Lucind > >

I too, hope the Internet won't be botherd. I have really enjoyed talking to ALL of you, look foward to all your E-mails, the good and the bad. I hope that in 20 years we will still be sharing our genealogy stuff. But as I sit here typing, my body feels like it is getting ready to go down a roller coaster. I also feel things won't be the same. Not to think what our soldiors, are thinking. Its just plan FEAR, yoyo

For your enjoyment: a parody. Martin Sheen: "Hello Mr. President, this is Marty." GW: "Marty Who?" Martin: "Martin Sheen from West Wing." GW: "Oh Good,I been meaning to talk to you about the Janitor service..." Martin: " No Mr. President, I a calling about what WE are going to do on foriegn policy..." GW: " Wait a Minute Marty, are we writing one of my speeches? I usually just adlib from an outline.." (Over his shoulder, "Hey Colin, you know a Marty, he says he is in the West Wing?" Martin: " Sir, about how we are going to deal with Saddam..." GW: "just a second Marty, I have my outline here... Yes, we are going to Bomb his ass into eternity, in 48 hours." Martin "Mr. President that is unacceptable..." Colin ( in the distance ) "GW, keep him on the line they are looking for him..." GW: "Marty, why is that unacceptable?" Martin: "Because if that happens, I won't be able to convince the world that it was politically correct." GW: Listen Marty, I have this worked out for months now, and if France doesn't get it together, and Iraq isn't under a new government by April Fools day, the whole summer baseball schedule could get trashed." Martin: "Sir, I may not be the President, but I play the President on TV..." -- Jeffery Scism, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists Links to my Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.... Heritage is the anchor in the sea of life, holding us steady, giving us a standard to live up to or beyond, a compass for our course, and a place to call home.

Hey Bettye, Thanks alot for the e-mail. Yes a lot of us have seen a lot of tragedy in our lives and those around us. When I was first married in Chicago we lived in Rogers Park which is the northernmost neighborhood in Chicago along the lake, just under Evanston. The neighborhood was mostly Jewish and back in the seventies there were still a lot of them who had been through the holicaust. Several of them showed me their tatooed numbers. Many of them never really recovered from the starvation and were little more than skin and bones. One man had been a child and had lost his whole family. He was grumpy and short tempered and always walked with his big german shepard. Then the dog started to limp and the vet had to put him down in about 6 months. The man was beside himself for awhile and the a relative got him a beautiful 7 month old doby. She was his pride and joy but he was harsh with her. I saw him hit her with the leather lease. I was afraid that some day she would turn on him. She did. one day she turned and jumped, put her front feet around his neck and started licking his face and kissing him. Within a minute she had turned this bitter man into a sobbing mound of jelly and he did nothing but spoil her after that. Somehow she knew how raw his heart was and what he needed. The little grandma who lived a half a flight down was supposed to be blind and deaf but she always knew whenever anyone went up my steps and she always worried until her daughter made sure I was alright. My ex=husband was an engineer and would talk to anyone. A young man from Iran came over and got his degree in engineering and had no family here so he would come over and talk with my ex-husband and ask for fatherly advise. One of my best friends at work is a young Iranian women who had to go back to Iran at christmas for an official morning period because her father had died there. I hope she is alright. She is very Americanized, not the burka type. I heard the Presidents speech tonight. It was very good. But it would be very surprising to me if Saddam left on his own. It sounds from the defensive moves he has made that he has most of his weapons right in Baghdad itself. Yes, we all need to be praying in this next 48 hours and then even more after that. I have no doubt that the arrogant little puppy will keep his word. There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that he meant what he said. And no matter what their reasons, God bless Brittain and Spain. It is not easy for them to stand with us right now. But I can't find it in my heart to blame those who don't. We don't know all the reasons and just like God said, 'Revenge is mine'. I often tell people that the best and the worst thing I can do to them is turn them over to God. And even thought people feel that they are worshiping different Gods, the deeper and more honest the spiritual discussion gets, the more those Gods are similiar. I went to a funeral last week for a 25 yr old mom and her 24 week premie baby who had lived only 37 hrs after she died from a blood clot in her lungs. She left a young husband of 6 yrs and a 3yr old and a 5yr old. She was always so incandescently alive. I think of her and how all of us have pledged to help that young father keep their lives special. I hope this nation can focus on doing for the families of the soldiers, both those we lose and those who come back, as they did for the families of the victims of 9-11. I hope we can realize that the Iraqi people are the same as slaves, right now they can do nothing. I hope we can show the world that we mean good, not harm to them. We cannot wait, like we did in WWII, until they are literally knocking at all our doors before we enter the fray. I was really rather proud of that puppy tonight. But I feel for all the people who are afraid and/or genuinely don't believe in war. My brother-in-law is Quaker and was thinking he should be making a peace trip to Iraq not to many months ago. He is in his 80's and has been a peace advocate for over 50 years. He is a grand old man even though I don't always agree with him. Fortunately his health and wiser heads steped in and he and his wife are moving into an assisted living center which is much more appropriate to his condition than a flight to Baghdad. Life is strange. God bless everyone of you no matter what we believe or believe in. Mor than we ever appreciate, we need each other. Bless you Bettye. It sounds to me like your daughter, if I have that right, needs to start baking ang wraping cookies for the whole neighborhood. Maybe we could shower the whole middle east with good old American homebaked cookies. They always put our kids in a better mood and they were excellent bribes. What's your favorite homebaked cookie? And I'll amend that last paragraph to say homebaked cookies from all over the world. What if all those soldiers had a dozen homemade cookies to share every time they went out. I bet cookies will work faster than anything else to break down walls. And the propaganda leaflets they drop should all have a soft cookie attached. Hard ones might hurt. Come on, what's your favorite recipe? Ready, set, start baking! Here's to cookie diplomacy! Those things work on the oldest hardest grinch! Pamela BETTYBOAT@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks Pamela, you are special and so are so many others on this list. > > My freinds are only about 35 miles outside of Jacksonville, and will be > arriving shortly. > > Let's hope we don't have war, but it sure looks like we are headed that way. > > It will be interesting tonight to talk with our freinds coming to visit. He > is a Lt. Col. and they spent the night in Bixoli, Miss at the Air Forse > Base there last night. > > We also have some Generals and a rear Admiral in the neighborhood, lots of > former Air Force pilots, and Navy pilots as well. > > Mayport is only a few miles from me, and I can see the planes fly over each > night or day from my back window. some of the area around us here at Queens > Harbour also belongs to the Navy, which is a bit scary. > > I like you and many others on the list, hope we don't have a war. Guess we > all will be glued to out TV sets tonight. > > Let's all say a special prayer. My freinds up the street from me lost their > whole family when Hitler was the dictator that he was. So many horror > stories. > > Bettye has been cooking all day for my special guest, and my daughter and > the beautiful grandchildren will also come dine with us. My daughter loves > all of my best girl freinds that I grew up with. > > I am still having a horrible time with my neck and the injury I got. Guess > it will take time. > > Take care and lets all say a special prayer to whatever God you may worship > tonight. > > Bettye > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Rumors of war, cover the street, giving an address for everyone to meet. Have you seen Usama man? He thinks he has it beat, soon will be a time, he will be less fleet. And the toys he plays with, and hides on the street, will rise to haunt him and ring in his defeat. Can he see clearly he hasn't a chance? we remember Ground Zero and it is time for him to dance. -- Jeffery Scism, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists Links to my Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.... Heritage is the anchor in the sea of life, holding us steady, giving us a standard to live up to or beyond, a compass for our course, and a place to call home.

points well taken, Thanks, we all seem to take our freedoms to liberal. We have what we have because someone fought for them, gn ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff To: BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] What is going on here Your "rights" are varied, and only guaranteed from GOVERNMENT interference. The Bill of Rights and other amendments to the US Constitution are your federally guaranteed rights, and federal prohibitions in some cases. The other federal laws, regulations and policies are based in the US Constitution. STATE laws are based on each State's Constitution, local laws, and must also comply with US Constitutional laws. Freedoms are what you make of them. An example is "freedom of Speech" you are free to say anything you want, write it down, and distribute it, HOWEVER, there are penalties for Libel, slander, and false witness. You can say it, but you also have the responsibility for what you say. You have a freedom of religion, but constitutionally, the GOVERNMENT can not CREATE it's own religion. (There is no reference to "separation of Church and State" in the Constitution, That phrase was created in 1906 by the Supreme Court.) You have a freedom from "unreasonable" search and seizure. (This is ONLY by Government search and seizure) the term "unreasonable" leaves a lot of room, this is where "probable Cause" comes from. You have right to Keep and Bear Arms. Nowhere in the constitution does it say "of an approved type". Militia is not a dirty word. It is a group formed for the common defense of a community. (Militias are also held responsible for their actions...) Nothing says the Militia has to be formed or approved by the Government. It should be "well regulated". Your other rights follow he principals dictated by the Constitution. You have the right to remain silent. You have the right to a legal advisor. You have a right to know that anything you say, write or do may be held in evidence against you. You have a right to trial by a jury of your peers. (peers means fellow citizens, not a specific ethnic group). Social freedoms are those that reasonable people would expect. Freedom of privacy, in ones own home, office or place of work. Freedom of movement, within a social community, or a jurisdiction. The freedom to vote as you choose. The freedom to express your opinion. The freedom to choose your own job, and the freedom to change jobs. (even the freedom to NOT have a job) The freedom to choose to worship in a church of your choice, under a doctrine of your choice. Freedom to disagree. Freedom to assemble. Freedom to educate your children "outside" the system. Freedom to choose the products you buy, and NOT to choose. Freedom to LEAVE the country. Freedom to choose who you associate with. Freedom to live in the community of your choice, (as long as you can afford it...) Freedom to use public services without discrimination. All of these freedoms, rights and abilities come with the responsibility to maintain them, support them by assuring they are FREELY available to all, and to FIGHT if necessary those who would deny them. (our military, and officials swear to defend against all enemies, "Foreign and Domestic". That means people who are internal enemies.) Which freedoms do you have, that are truly YOUR freedoms? Which are freedoms only possible in our form of society? -- Jeffery Scism, http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists Links to my Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.... Heritage is the anchor in the sea of life, holding us steady, giving us a standard to live up to or beyond, a compass for our course, and a place to call home. ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _____________________________________________________ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm

That is a most interesting true story, Lucinda; Thank you.....ET..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bonds <tabulam_bonds@dodo.com.au> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [BSChat] NARA form help > Thanks Jeff and Pamela > > From your replies I figure that he was an officer. He was a Leutenant Commander WW1 flying planes for the Navy. > > He trained at Pensacola Navy Base, including study at MIT. He ws one of the first aviators to go to Europe and flew over the Channel protecting the troop carriers. He was shot down in the channel, he was saved by his watch that caught on part of the plane debri and kept him afloat, then picked up by a british ship. He was not injured. He flew Hispano Swuiza planes which had Lewis machine guns. They had to be able to re-assemble the Lewis blindfolded. (he was always a wiz at fixing machinery, guess this is where he learnt it) He said that if they stressed out and pushed too hard with thier feet, that thier feet would go right through the flimsy floor of the machine. > > He travelled and worked throughout US, Canada, Alaska and Mexico with many fantastic stories of his experiences. He worked on the Alaskan oil pipeline, raced horses in Canada, raced cars in US, flew planes for paying passengers with Eddie Rickenbacker, drilled for oil in Mexico, attended Chicago Uni under a sports scholarship playing football and got kicked out in his last year of law...all sound far fetched I know, but his exploits later in Oz confirm his adventurous nature. > > In 1925 he got into some type of trouble with a friend, a politician, and had to leave the US before the shit hit so he took the first ship out which happened to be going to Germany. Using his brothers passport he then came to Oz, had a dog with him and had to be rowed ashore by the captain at nite, because of quarantine laws. He thereafter used an assumed name and never returned. I think that he really missed his home and country. > > He eventually met my mum and bred us gang of rebels and adventurers, so we all consider ourselves in part to be American. Mum being the calm soul that she is, never fully quizzed him on what his real name was, he always said that he would take her home to Texas, she figured that she would find out then. Time ran out and this didn't happen. So with the advent of the net I am now trying to find out who he really was, I could have family over there somewhere becuase he had a brother. > > Anyway, I think I've rambled on enough for now, sorry about that, but at least you've all had something to read and I've had someone to 'talk' to. Now that I think I have a name on him I will get busy doing more searching. Thanks for listening. Lucind. > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Blacksheep-Chat-L@rootsweb.com is a wide spectrum Chat List, Topics allowed are almost anything.restrictions are: > Political discussion, religious prosylitizing, and aggressive behavior, any of these topics will result in restricted priveleges. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Nice one, Li!.....E T..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff <Scismgenie@adelphia.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] What is going on here > Your "rights" are varied, and only guaranteed from GOVERNMENT > interference. > > The Bill of Rights and other amendments to the US Constitution are your > federally guaranteed rights, and federal prohibitions in some cases. > > The other federal laws, regulations and policies are based in the US > Constitution. > STATE laws are based on each State's Constitution, local laws, and > must also comply with US Constitutional laws. > > Freedoms are what you make of them. An example is "freedom of Speech" > you are free to say anything you want, write it down, and distribute it, > HOWEVER, there are penalties for Libel, slander, and false witness. > You can say it, but you also have the responsibility for what you say. > > You have a freedom of religion, but constitutionally, the GOVERNMENT can > not CREATE it's own religion. (There is no reference to "separation of > Church and State" in the Constitution, That phrase was created in 1906 > by the Supreme Court.) > > You have a freedom from "unreasonable" search and seizure. (This is > ONLY by Government search and seizure) the term "unreasonable" leaves a > lot of room, this is where "probable Cause" comes from. > > You have right to Keep and Bear Arms. Nowhere in the constitution does > it say "of an approved type". Militia is not a dirty word. It is a group > formed for the common defense of a community. (Militias are also held > responsible for their actions...) Nothing says the Militia has to be > formed or approved by the Government. It should be "well regulated". > > Your other rights follow he principals dictated by the Constitution. > > You have the right to remain silent. You have the right to a legal > advisor. You have a right to know that anything you say, write or do may > be held in evidence against you. You have a right to trial by a jury of > your peers. (peers means fellow citizens, not a specific ethnic group). > > Social freedoms are those that reasonable people would expect. > > Freedom of privacy, in ones own home, office or place of work. > > Freedom of movement, within a social community, or a jurisdiction. > > The freedom to vote as you choose. > > The freedom to express your opinion. > > The freedom to choose your own job, and the freedom to change jobs. > (even the freedom to NOT have a job) > > The freedom to choose to worship in a church of your choice, under a > doctrine of your choice. > > Freedom to disagree. > > Freedom to assemble. > > Freedom to educate your children "outside" the system. > > Freedom to choose the products you buy, and NOT to choose. > > Freedom to LEAVE the country. > > Freedom to choose who you associate with. > > Freedom to live in the community of your choice, (as long as you can > afford it...) > > Freedom to use public services without discrimination. > > > All of these freedoms, rights and abilities come with the responsibility > to maintain them, support them by assuring they are FREELY available to > all, and to FIGHT if necessary those who would deny them. > > (our military, and officials swear to defend against all enemies, > "Foreign and Domestic". That means people who are internal enemies.) > > Which freedoms do you have, that are truly YOUR freedoms? Which are > freedoms only possible in our form of society? > > > > -- > > > > Jeffery Scism, > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists > > Links to my Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ > > Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.... > > Heritage is the anchor in the sea of life, > holding us steady, giving us a standard to live up to or beyond, > a compass for our course, and a place to call home. > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Creative use of your delete key is encouraged. If you disagree with the subject, CHANGE the subject. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dave, I'm sure these statements were given with tongue in cheek, but some are thought provoking.....E T..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave <dave.tompsett@sympatico.ca> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: [BSChat] re: FREEDOM! > Permit me my objections: to these statements : > > "You have the Freedom of Speech, as long as you don't disagree with Bush." > > You just did, and no-one is going to worry you for it; because McCarthy died a while ago. > > "You have the Right to bear arms if you're a criminal or don't belong to a militia." > > In Canada, run by stupider politicians, they just blew a BILLION dollars trying to register > every long-arm (rifle) - there are only about 30 million rifles in Canada, mostly up north > and on farms. > > "You have the right to pursue happiness as long as you're not hitch hiking." > No argument there.... > > "You have the right to pay 3/4 of your salary in taxes." It isn't quite that bad. > Your "tax-freedom" day is in early June; in Canada it's a month later > > "You have the right/privledge of going to school, > where its neither safe nor do you get a decent education." > > Ya kicked God out of the schools, now yo want Him back? VOTE ! > > "You have the right to starve, while we are shipping tons of food overseas, to countries who couldn't care less about us." > > Bush is just one of a long line of polits who bribe other countries with food your poor could have eaten. > It isn't just a Republican trick. Again, ya gotta VOTE ! > > > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Jeff, you explained this very well.......I never tried to figure out the various general and admiral ranks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff <Scismgenie@adelphia.net> To: <BLACKSHEEP-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [BSChat] NARA form help > > -- Officers are those who have a COMMISSION in the Military, Usualy > they are college educated, andhave attended the Officer candidate > school, fr their branch, or one of the four Service academys, > (counting Coast Guard). > > The term enlisted is more correctly referenced as the 'ranked" personnel > . In the Airmy they would be Privates, Corporals, specialists, and > Sergeants. Once a rank, usually e-4 or e-5 is attained the lower > enlisted grades are supplemented by Non-Commissioned Officers, or > non-coms. These would be Sergeants (Varies by branch) > > Liuetenants and above ( Captaian, Major, Liuetenant Colonel, Colonel, > and Generals)(Navy has different titles for the same ranks). are > OFFICERS. > > There is a tird class, with nuch fewer of them around, and that is > WARRANT OFFICERS, Warrrant officers are appointed from teh lower > ranks, or directly appointed to fill some positons, OFFICERS are > referred to as "Sir" or "Ma'am", and Warrent Officers are referred to > as the same or as "Mister" depending on branch. > > What rank was your father? > > > Jeffery Scism, > http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ > International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists > > Links to my Homepages: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scismfam/ > > Genealogy is the art of the living haunting the dead.... > > Heritage is the anchor in the sea of life, > holding us steady, giving us a standard to live up to or beyond, > a compass for our course, and a place to call home. > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsub scribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Good heavens! OK, tomorrow I'll play the ones that have links to them. Right now I'm at the library. In case anyone is wondering, I'm answering week old e-mail; don't even have the recent e-mail. I moved last week. My computer was packed all week. Dora --- Bobby & Sue Bates <bsbates@netease.net> wrote: > Hey guys! > Just gotta share this!! I am in receipt of an > email from a D.J. in Germany who's asking > permisssion to play my album on their air over > there!!! YAAAAHOOOOOOO!!!!! > Best, > SueB > http://www.cdbaby.com/suegilmore > > > ==== BLACKSHEEP-CHAT Mailing List ==== > Unsubscribe from the list: > Mailto:Blacksheep-Chat-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com