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    1. [BLKBURN] Cemetery
    2. Pat Arrants
    3. These are not my people as far as I know right now, but the information might help someone of you out there... CARR Cemetery Located at #5 Downing Ct., Johson City, TN Blackburn, Pearl Lilley; 10-3-1905 - 6-15-1969 [spouse, Richard] Blackburn, Richard Spencer; 4-1-1900 - 6-30-1973 [spouse Pearl] Pat

    01/25/2000 12:38:02
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] How to help
    2. Ditto from Pat's answer about helping get the Blackburn Website up and going. Another Pat

    01/25/2000 09:14:01
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] Do we need a web site?
    2. Kay... It's a marvelous idea! Though us being Kiss'n Cousins, I 'spect you have all the information I have on our family. But, more important, as a collection site for all Blackburn Connections to come together and widen their research, it would be an invaluable tool. Let me know what I can do to help! Edgar Hunt

    01/25/2000 06:19:38
    1. [BLKBURN] Re: BLACKBURN-D Digest V00 #18
    2. Hello List from NC I have the family of Benjamin Blackburn and Elizabeth Adkerson (have the will of Elizabeth) and will share. Email me at [email protected] Not sure if I should put all this on the Digest site. Linda Revis

    01/25/2000 02:49:18
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburns
    2. robin jerkins
    3. Ms. Barnes: The original William I have was born in 1764. Problem is, there are LOTS of Williams in this branch, and I know that one of the later Williams married a Sarah. Let me check my Willies and get back to you. :) [email protected] >From: Sheila Barnes <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburns >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:53:07 +0000 > >I have a William Blackburn b 1818 who married Sarah McNeil in 1841 and >another William b 1822 who married Malinda Sarah Ray in 1844. > >Are those too late for your William? > >Sheila > > >==== BLACKBURN Mailing List ==== >When the subject changes, please change the Subject line.. >Searching for roots beats chasing dust bunnies! > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    01/24/2000 06:35:39
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] Edmond Blackburn
    2. Mark
    3. Pat, I am trying to learn the history of a Henry Edmond who married Florence Gertrude Blackburn. My grandmother Mary Gertrude Edmond was born at Kingslow upon Hull in 1896. Florence's mother was named Martha Blackburn. Any connection ? Mark Johns

    01/24/2000 05:51:24
    1. [BLKBURN] Edmond Blackburn
    2. Pat Arrants
    3. The line I am working on comes from Benjamin Blackburn who sailed to North Carolina on the Carolina from London in 1774. He and his wife , Elizabeth Adkerson, named their children: Edmond (or Edmund, depending on the source) Leroy, Levi, John, and Sarah. With those names for the children, perhaps there is a connection to Henry Edmond, born at Kingston upon Hull in England. I have not been able to get Benjamin back to the UK. He came as a clergyman and lived in NC. Part of his family moved to Floyd Co., Ky. My grandmother of that line was born in Trade, TN. Later her family moved to Peebles, Ohio. Other Blackburns in Ashe Co., NC, and those in Floyd Co., KY, and those in the area near Peebles may be connected. But how? Families often went where other family members were. Pat Arrants

    01/24/2000 05:14:15
    1. [BLKBURN] Blackburn Sisters
    2. I am researching Sue Blackburn who married Frank S.Hall June 9,1878 in Menard county, Texas. Her sister Sarah E. Blackburn who married B.L. Hall Feb.12,1880. Sue and Frank had 3 daughters. Maggie, Sue, and Minnie all born in Menard county Tx. They are all on the 1880 Menard co. Tx census. Where did they go from there? I would appreciate any information on them. Thanks Ray

    01/24/2000 05:03:55
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburns
    2. Sheila Barnes
    3. I have a William Blackburn b 1818 who married Sarah McNeil in 1841 and another William b 1822 who married Malinda Sarah Ray in 1844. Are those too late for your William? Sheila

    01/24/2000 02:53:07
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] Edmond Blackburn
    2. Sheila Barnes
    3. Hi Pat, I think we have shared info. about the Ben Blackburn family before, but I did not know how Ben got to the USA. Thanks for that tidbit of info. I too come down through Ben,his son Edmond, his son Solomon, & his son William. Sheila

    01/24/2000 02:47:20
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburns
    2. Which William do you have that born in Va d. NC 1700's? I am looking for the William Blackburn of Wilkes Co., NC, m. Sarah. Christine Tomlin [email protected]

    01/24/2000 12:37:46
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburn, Ireland 1840
    2. Bill Blackburn
    3. Dear Carol, My greatgrandmother Sarah M. Brinton was born PA 1848, daughter of George M. Brinton born PA 1814 and Susana Funk born PA 1821. Sarah's Grandmother Sarah Matlack (for which the intial "M" in the foregoing), grandfather John Brinton. Brintons are an old Quaker family. My grandfather William Blackburn and Sarah resided Penn Twp, Westmoreland Co. PA from at least 1870 to about 1905 when all moved to California. Your Brinton Blackburn is very interesting, because I have another line where Brinton was used as a first name in the person of Brinton Darlington. In addition to Darlington and Matlack, other associated family names are Smedley, Dicks, Mercer, Borton, Kinton, Haines, Bagley, Thatcher, and some others. In addition to my grandfather, William John Blackburn, Sarah and William had children as follows: Samuel Z., Eleanor, Grace (married Paddison), and May (married Simmons). I am not aware of any movement of the family to Ohio but it is possible that Samuel Z. Blackburn moved there. Let me know if any of this sounds familiar, and I am checking it with the lists also. Good luck !! William John Blackburn III otherwise known as Bill Mt. Shasta, CA [email protected] wrote: > I have an ancestor, Brint(on) Blackburn.......s/o John Ash Blackburn(Ephraim > II, Ephraim I)..........Brint was b. 18 April 1868 in Ohio, m. Mary Elizabeth > Miller 12 Jan 1890, d. 31 July 1947..............was curious about Sarah > Brinton.......wondering if you have more info on her?.......thanks, Carol > > ==== BLACKBURN Mailing List ==== > When the subject changes, please change the Subject line.. > Searching for roots beats chasing dust bunnies!

    01/24/2000 06:32:24
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Mark
    3. Liz. Thank you. Mark Johns

    01/24/2000 06:30:16
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] William Blackburn, Ireland 1840
    2. Bill, Thanks for the information on the Brinton family. I'd come across Sarah before and wondered if there might be a family connection to my great-grandfather whose first name is Brinton..........I need to look into this for sure...............Carol in San Antonio

    01/24/2000 05:31:19
    1. [BLKBURN] Blackburn site
    2. Liz Wallis
    3. Here's a bunch of Blackburn names that may interest some of you. http://www.my-ged.com/db/index/blackbur/50 According to the gedcom owner they are mostly from Kentucky and Illinois. Liz Wallis

    01/23/2000 09:20:39
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Liz Wallis
    3. At 09:11 PM 1/23/00 EST, you wrote: > Liz, > Two or three things you mentioned in the last couple of letters are quite >interesting- the fact that Florence is a name more common to the southern >part of England being one. > Re: the religion of Blackburns. Have you come across any info. about >Methodist Blackburns in England? In my research it appears that in the US > I've not found any Methodist (or non-conformist or dissenting) Blackburns in England so far. All of my lot were strict C of E. But I'll watch out for them and post to the list if I see any. Re names: very frustrating! Every other girl child in Lancs in the 1800's was named Elizabeth Ellen, and all the others were Margaret, Mary, Alice and Jane. The boys were all Robert, William, Thomas and John, with a few Peter's and Richard's thrown in. When a family had so many children that they ran out of names, they just turned 'em around backwards and named the new ones Ellen Elizabeth instead of Elizabeth Ellen <grin>. I'm trying to figure out which of the dozens of Robert Blackburns married to Ellen something's is mine, and I suppose I'm going to have to write for birth certs to know for sure. American Blackburns were much more creative in their naming. Liz

    01/23/2000 08:53:32
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Liz Wallis
    3. >In a message dated 1/23/2000 7:59:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< parish records were carefully made (unless you were > Roman Catholic, which can be a problem). >> > >Liz, > >Why? I've used them in Portugal (I had to learn to read "old" Portuguese) to >trace my foreign lines back to the 1500s. I found them quite easy to use. > Portugal is (or was) primarily a Catholic nation, so no problem. England was most definitely NOT for much of its history, and Roman Catholics were at varying times killed outright, imprisoned or at least harrassed. Many RC families had their children baptised in the local C of E church as well as in their own church, and many RC churches were cautious about keeping records in case those records were used against their people. What you want, as a genealogist, is for your people to have been Presbyterian - they kept the best records of any denomination I've seen so far <g>. Mine were all C of E, so I've at least got the father's name and the mother's first name. Liz

    01/23/2000 04:43:47
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Liz, Two or three things you mentioned in the last couple of letters are quite interesting- the fact that Florence is a name more common to the southern part of England being one. Re: the religion of Blackburns. Have you come across any info. about Methodist Blackburns in England? In my research it appears that in the US the early settlers in Eastern Virginia were C of E. Those who came from Ireland and Scotland were Presbyterian (or Quaker in the case of Ireland). There are a couple of lines whose origin is not clear who are Methodist. I haven't been able to determine if they were Methodist before they came or if they were converted in America. Note: If someone sent me an e-mail last week and I did not respond, please try again. I accidentally deleted something. M. Blackburn

    01/23/2000 02:11:22
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Liz Wallis
    3. At 10:41 PM 1/22/00 CST, you wrote: >Is it easier to find information on the family in the U.K. than it is here? >(Apparently my Blackburns had an aversion to keeping good family records). > It's not so much that the families kept better records but that the civil authorities did. Many of the USA Blackburns seem to pop up in Kentucky, which had one of the worst records in the whole country for civil records (second I think only to North Carolina where my husband's folk are from). I've been told in all seriousness by several historians and family researchers that people came to those areas precisely because records weren't kept. On the other hand, in the UK even before civil records began to be kept in 1837, parish records were carefully made (unless you were Roman Catholic, which can be a problem). Also there are trade directories of the businesspeople issued at regular intervals for all of England, which can be an incredibly useful source of information. Then there were guild and apprenticeship records, landed gentry lists, electoral rolls, you name it, the Brits are keeping track of it somewhere. Makes life very much easier for someone like me whose folk all came from various places in the UK. I'm the first in my family to be born in the US so virtually all my research has been in the UK. Liz Wallis

    01/23/2000 09:19:09
    1. Re: [BLKBURN] not alone
    2. Liz Wallis
    3. At 11:58 PM 1/22/00 -0500, you wrote: > The only place i have a name for is Kingslow upon Hull. This is off of my >grandmother's Entry of Birth Dated 18,July,1896. There are a couple of >addreses on it. 12 Youlton street U.D. and 14 Jackson street Hull. The >mother's name Florence Gertrude Blackburn. Father Henry Edmond. witness >Martha Blackburn (the grandmother). The sub-district looks like hyton or >maybe ayton. Is any of that near Lancashire ? Hello Mark, Kingston-upon-Hull is in the East Riding of Yorkshire, where the River Hull flows into the Humber, just inland from the English Channel. Lancashire is the county to the west of Yorkshire, on the Irish Channel. Blackburns (and Edmonds) are numerous in both counties. You should be on the YORKSGEN-L list, which covers the entire county of Yorkshire. Subscribe to it the same way you did to this list, by sending the message 'subscribe' to [email protected] They're a friendly and helpful lot. Other suggestions: visit your local Family History Center and look at the 1881 census for Yorkshire. The sub-district may be Sutton. There is a Hayton sub-district in the East Riding district of Pocklington, and a Hutton Cranswick in Driffield. Ayton (Great, Little, East and West) are in the North Riding sub-districts of Scarborough and Stokesley. U.D. is probably 'under' something. I'm not as familiar with Yorks place names as I am with Lancs. The district and sub-district nams can be found on the genuki site http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/civreg/places/index.htm In fact, you should make http://www.genuki.org.uk/YKS/index.html the beginning point for all your Yorks research, as it has an amazing accumulation of info on everything having to do with Yorkshire. You can lurk on the Yorks list for a while and then ask someone to do a lookup for you on the 1881 census CD and they will likely pop up. Henry and Florence may only have been young children at that time, but their names will still show up on a surname search. Looking at the IGI, I see Henry Edmond born 6 Feb 1867 in Great Driffield, which is due north of Kingston-upon-Hull. That date would be consistent with your Henry, and the distance is not so great as to be improbable. Martha is an *extremely* common name in Yorks, and the list of Martha Blackburns that could possibly be the grandmother is too long to enumerate here. On the other hand, Florence was not common in that part of England at all, whereas it was in the south of England. I didn't see a marriage record for Henry under any of the common spellings, which only means that it hasn't made it into the IGI indexes yet. Parish records are available through the LDS and should give you additional info when you pin down exactly what districts you are looking at. Hope this helps Liz

    01/23/2000 09:19:06