In a message dated 9/13/0 1:42:47 AM, REDSKI9136 wrote: <<the children it was passed to, believed it to be a Nationallity.>> Yes & when someone is told and taught that this is what they are, that is all they know and they don't know any different til they grow older & question what exactly it is, that's if they haven't been given all the details like most of us haven't. We research, but our Aunts, Uncles, Great Aunt, Great Uncles, Grandparents & so on didn't they held a certain respect to know that and that was enough, they were silenced from asking anything further for that would have been disrespectful. Plus things were different then comparison to today's world. Secrets were kept and not discussed with or around Children. Thanks to the Creator & technology we've grown more knowledgeable to find the information & resources that have gotten us this far on the meaning of our mysterious term Black Dutch. blessings, Turtle/